Big East Tourney scenarios
Bumped from diaries
Yes, it's the moment I wait for all year - 1 week until the tourney! That means its time to crunch some numbers and see how the seeding can turn out. ;
This post will probably be dated in about 4 hours, so I recommend TiVoing all of today's games and not watching until you completely understand all tourny implications.
Here we go...
Scenario #1: Everything goes as expected
UL over Nova and GU
GU over Marq
UConn wins out, including beating WV
Pitt over Syr
Cincy over Prov
Syr over Hall
1 #18 Louisville
2 #10 Georgetown 2-0
2 #16 Connecticut 1-2 1-0 vs UL
2 #17 Notre Dame 1-2
5 #21 Marquette
6 West Virginia
7 Cincinnati split 1-0 vs UL
7 Pittsburgh split 0-1 vs. UL
9 Villanova won h to h
9 Seton Hall
11 Syracuse
12 DePaul
13 Providence won h to h
13 St. John's
15 Rutgers
16 South Florida
Louisville plays the winner of the 8/9 game. Pitt is #8 because they split with Cincy and the next tie-breaker is record vs #1 seed. Nova beat S Hall heat to head to get the #9 seed.
Scenario #2: What if GU loses to Marq but beats UofL
1 #10 Georgetown 3-1
1 #16 Connecticut 2-2 won h to h
1 #18 Louisville 2-2
1 #17 Notre Dame 1-3
5 #21 Marquette
6 West Virginia
7 Cincinnati split 1-0 vs RU
7 Pittsburgh split
9 Villanova won h to h
9 Seton Hall
11 Syracuse
12 DePaul
13 Providence won h to h
13 St. John's
15 Rutgers
16 South Florida
This one gave me a headache. A 4-way tie for first (that's a lot of t-shirts) gets broken with the miniconference record. GU wins and ND is the #4 seed. UConn gets the 2 over UofL because of the head-to head game. Cincy and Pitt split and no team gains a tie-breaker advantage until all the way down to Rutgers(!), which won at Pitt.
Scenario #3 Same thing, plus UConn loses to WV
1 #10 Georgetown 2-1 split h to h 2-0 vs Vill/SHall
1 #18 Louisville 2-1 split h to h 1-1 vs Vill/SHall
1 #17 Notre Dame 0-2
4 #16 Connecticut won h to h
4 #21 Marquette
6 West Virginia
7 Cincinnati split h to h 1-0 vs RU
7 Pittsburgh split h to h
9 Villanova
9 Seton Hall
11 Syracuse
12 DePaul
13 Providence won h to h
13 St. John's
15 Rutgers
16 South Florida
UofL now gets the two. Same miniconf record as GU and tiebreak goes all the way down to Vill/SHall, where GU wins with 2-0 record. Cincy-Pitt tiebreaker still goes all the way down to Rutgers.
Scenario #4 Worst case - UL loses out, UConn drops a game to WV, Marq wins out
Rank
1 #10 Georgetown won h to h
1 #17 Notre Dame
3 #16 Connecticut 2-0
3 #18 Louisville 2-1
3 #21 Marquette 0-3
6 West Virginia
7 Pittsburgh 1-1
7 Cincinnati 0-2 beat Nova h to h
7 Villanova 0-2
10 Seton Hall
11 Syracuse
12 DePaul
13 Providence won h to h
13 St. John's
15 Rutgers
16 South Florida
So, Louisville gets the 4 seed here and plays winner of Marq/DePaul. Pitt/Cincy/Nova deadlock is broken by record over GU/ND, then Cincy h-to-h win over Nova.
I think this means out ND win clinched us a bye. That's pretty important.
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by Phauz on Mar 1, 2008 12:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats dumb
by mapaul04 on Mar 1, 2008 2:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What if
Assuming we all have 4 loses. We would be 3-1 vs the mini conference. GTown would be 2-2. ND would be 1-3. And UConn would be 2-2. SO we would win this scenario right?
So I guess as long as we beat GTown we win the conference. Assuming the other 2 teams win out. Is this right?
by mapaul04 on Mar 1, 2008 5:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats correct
Here are scenarios if we lose to Nova and beat GTown:
UConn and ND win out: UL #1 with 3-1 miniconf record (as you describe)
UConn drops one: UL #1 with 3-0 miniconf vs GTown 1-2, ND 0-2)
ND drops one: UL #1 with 2-1 miniconf vs GTown 1-1, UConn 1-1)
ND and UConn both lose 1: UL #1 with h to h sweep of GTown
by Phauz on Mar 1, 2008 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So it's basically...
by Mike Rutherford on Mar 1, 2008 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, Sedat may not be allowed to do handstands!
"But Frank, I must tell you, I do not know if I can do the handstand again. Last game, they came to me and told me I can not do the handstand any more. They brought two police men.
They let me do it at the Georgetown game. Nobody said anything. I don't understand..."
For the full interview on a truly amazing man, and the details on this controversy with the handstand after 40 yrs:
by frankpos on Mar 1, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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