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Rick Pitino Press Conference Notes

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--One of the toughest things about the loss last night was that it moved Cincinnati ahead of us in the conference standings. It was game that they really needed, but it would have been a big win for us as well.

--He's honored to be nominated for the Naismith Hall of Fame and he's also very grateful to all the other coaches and players that helped him throughout his career. It's not something that he's thought about a great deal because coaches are always too worried about winning games to focus on things like that, but obviously it's a tremendous honor.

--When Gorgui is in foul trouble, you're only options right now are to go small or go with Zach. If the game is at home, he'll probably go with Zach, when we're on the road he'll probably go small.

--We did a great job attacking the rim and scoring in the post last night, we just didn't hit threes. It was just an off night for Kyle and Chris, obviously.

--Wasn't disappointed in Kyle going 0-for-11, but he was disappointed in the fact that he didn't switch three times and gave up an easy basket late in the game. Even if you're not shooting the ball well, you can control your defense, and he told Kyle that after the game in front of the rest of the team partially to send a message to guys like Chane and Russ. It's not about offense, it's about defense. You can always control your defense.

--Didn't press as much because the game was on the road and it was an extremely hostile environment. When that's the case, sometimes you want to slow things down so the crowd doesn't get into it and you're guys don't get overwhelmed.

--The way we play and finish the season is preparation for the NCAA Tournament. You need to feel good about yourself heading into the tournament, and the next couple of weeks are critical for that.

--We felt good about the way we played last night. We played hard, we defended hard, we just didn't shoot well.

--The one really disappointing aspect of the game, again, was the turnovers. If you're scoring 85 points and turning the ball over 14 times, you live with that. But you can't play the way we did last night and turn the ball over that many times. We have to do something about this.

--The careless turnovers definitely concern him since it's so late in the season. Chane didn't make any turnovers last night, and that was a great sign because he had been one of the worst offenders. Russ and Chris did some really bad things with the ball, though, and that was concerning.

--Last night was great for Gorgui. Yancy Gates bullied him a little bit and that was good for him to take that and respond. He played very well before getting into foul trouble. His response to the bullying was "let's see what happens when I put on 20 pounds." I said, "Gorgui that's not going to happen between now and the Big East Tournament."

--Has not heard from the Big East regarding his comments about the officiating last night.

--Wayne Blackshear did not practice today, but there's a possibility that he could practice tomorrow. Thinks the best thing to do is only play him on Sunday if we need him. He still keeps missing practice time because of little injuries, so we need to rest him as much as possible to get him back close to 100%, because we're really going to need him in the NCAA Tournament.

--Chane was great last night. He's very mentally tough, but not necessarily mentally mature. Sometimes he tries to do too much when we're on the road in hostile environments, but last night he responded very well. I think he thought it was going to be a nicer homecoming than it was.

--Gorgui Dieng tells out-of-town reporters that he doesn't speak English. He is hilarious.

--Would like to play Zach a little more.

--Angel has the potential to be every bit as good as any of the other freshmen, but he's never had any formal basketball teaching. Once he learns more and puts on some weight, he's going to be very good.

--Temple, like Memphis, would be a good addition for the Big East because they fit the culture of the conference.

--Very excited about Terry Rozier because he's a guy who can shoot and play multiple positions, and those are the types of players we need.

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my exact thought

if not, did we just commit a recruiting violation?

by wscii on Feb 24, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

signef loi

NCAA rules prohibit coach from discussing unsigned players. So when rick talks about future players that means they have inked with UofL.

by jbwise on Feb 24, 2012 6:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

why are we recruiting players that have had no formal basketball instruction?

seems to me it’d be good to get guys that have been coached before.

by wscii on Feb 24, 2012 6:08 PM EST reply actions  

Does saying that a player has no basketball training hurt recruiting?

What if you offend the AAU coach and he tells the next five star guy on his team that it wouldn’t be in his best interest to play for Louisville?

I don’t know, maybe I’m just being paranoid. I just think it could help to butter up a player’s previous coaches a bit.

by cardcorefan on Feb 24, 2012 7:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I hear you.

I love Rick and have been a fan of his for over twenty years, but I cringe when he says something like this. He’s offended every coach Angel’s ever had, and if he’s said once he’s said ten times that Chane had “no fundamentals” when he got to U of L. Another line of coaches insulted, from Cincinnati to Bowling Green. Terribly tactless. I do wish he’d stop, but this is Rick, and he won’t. He pretty much says what he’s thinking.

by Loouhvul on Feb 24, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

just a tinsy tiny bit...

Paranoid. No worries tho. After all, He is HCRP & AAU coaches still thinks he is the golden ticket for them.

Head of ADHD Operations

by tnatburks on Feb 24, 2012 10:12 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I don't think it is paranoid.

Think about it. It can’t be good for any AAU coach’s ego to hear that Rick Pitino says he has taught a promising recruit nothing about the fundamentals of the game. That’s a direct slap at his ability as a coach. And that can’t make it easier for him to rise to the next level of coaching. Not to mention that promising recruits may very well not want to play under him if he can’t help them improve their game.

So, put yourself in this AAU coach’s shoes. I don’t think it is paranoid at all to think that he may not be a Rick Pitino fan and would, in fact, be more inclined to tell people that this Pitino fellow doesn’t know what he is talking about and that his kids would be better off playing for someone else.

by Carolina Cardinal on Feb 25, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not a fan of these comments either

This is one of those things that I just wish CRP wouldn’t say. If he wants to say Angel isn’t ready, fine, nothing wrong with that. But saying that he has never been taught a lick of fundamentals or received any real coaching is just not diplomatic or smart.

by cardsinindy2010 on Feb 25, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree. There is simply no upside and clearly some potential liabilities.

It is hard to understand how someone can be so methodical about some things can be so unthinking about others.

by Carolina Cardinal on Feb 25, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Zach Price played his senior year at J-Town for then-coach Jeff Morrow (stepped down prior to this season)

Jeff Morrow was a student manager & assistant under Pitino at UK in the 90s before he returned to Louisville to coach high school ball. I’ve played for Morrow and he definitely provides “formal basketball instruction” so this must refer to Price’s previous 3 years in Ohio. Or classic over-exaggeration to protect Price b/c he has a slow learning curve or related impediments. Maybe both.

by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 24, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Pitino spoke of Angel not Zach.
Angel has the potential to be every bit as good as any of the other freshmen, but he’s never had any formal basketball teaching

He’s said the same thing before. Angel did not come from a strong basketball program, and was never really taught the intricacies of playing the game, (especially on defense). But, Lord can he shoot! And, he is long, and has a great attitude.

by Unseld2Beard on Feb 24, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Morrow...

Former Ballard & Highview Baptist coach. Good at the high school level; a bit shady & I’m not sure why (6th sense).

My key point: Does not know what sideburns are. If you’ve ever seen him, you know what I’m talking about. #AboveTheEarLine

Head of ADHD Operations

by tnatburks on Feb 24, 2012 10:17 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Am I one of the only people who doesn't want a double bye?

I don’t think it matters. UConn showed it’s possible for a team to win 5 games in 5 days. Shit, UGA played 2 games in one day a few years ago on their way to winning the SEC tourney.

by CardinalDude on Feb 24, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

Look at What The Double-Bye Did For Us Last Year...

We destroyed Marquette in the Friday game, upset a then-prospective No. 1 seed Notre Dame in the semis, and took UConn down to the wire in the Finals. Despite defeating UConn twice in that same season, and defeating Syracuse, the NCAA rewarded Syracuse and UConn with No. 3 seeds in the Big Dance, handed the Cards a 4 seed. Thanks Double-Bye! Really helped us! Screw job from the NCAA Selection crew.

So, yeah, I think Rick is aware of recent history and that the possibility of winning four games will only help (and get Wayne more experience). Especially since this team is so good defensively, it is capable of winning four in a row, or even three in a row come the BET Tourney.

One more thing, if U of L could some how pull off winning the BET, it would set a good pattern for the NCAAs. Four wins there gets you into the Final Four.

by FrankensteinsJacket on Feb 24, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I am really excited about Rozier too

I love the fact that he can shoot, and he is plenty athletic. Can’t wait to see him suit up next year.

by cardsinindy2010 on Feb 24, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Along these lines

will he still be able to shoot his senior year? Sometimes our shooters seem to experience a bit of a regression to the mean in their senior year

by centre_card on Feb 24, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

20 Lbs aka Fat!

Can’t wait to see Fat Gorgui, maybe FW and chocolate cake chane behanan (C3B? ) can help gorgs with the off season weight.

Next on the list is fat angel and fat marra, then We can roll with an all Fat lineup next year

by jbwise on Feb 24, 2012 6:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

don't you mean super phat?

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Feb 24, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

twinkies, tacos & tattoos.

Is all a Marra knows…

Head of ADHD Operations

by tnatburks on Feb 24, 2012 10:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Can't be

The T stands for tits and that would have to be FW

by cbcard on Feb 25, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

whatev hes super hot

"You are not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are all singing, all dancing crap of the world."

by rockchickpeg on Feb 25, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Loved that comment by Gorgui

Its says to me he’s not even remotely thinking about the NBA. Kid is gonna be kicking some serious ass before he leaves.

"Right now, the light at the end of the tunnel? It’s not safe. It’s not safe. The future is coming, and if you’re in the way we’re going to roll right through you."

by Jurich 4 President on Feb 24, 2012 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Totally agree with CRP on the TOs
The one really disappointing aspect of the game, again, was the turnovers. If you’re scoring 85 points and turning the ball over 14 times, you live with that. But you can’t play the way we did last night and turn the ball over that many times. We have to do something about this.

The turnovers are obviously a big contributor to the offensive droughts. If we’re going to advance in March (BET or NCAA), we have to cut down on that. Not sure if that’s possible for Russ, but it is definitely possible for Chris and others.

by cardsinindy2010 on Feb 24, 2012 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

what did Rick say about the refs?

bc every game has the BIGEAST terrible refs, what did he say thats different than any other game?

by YimYames on Feb 24, 2012 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

He Said The Refs Thought

they were Hall of Fame referees, confident that every call they made was correct. Pretty classic stuff from CRP. I’m glad he let them have it. I think he was frustrated because he would try to discuss a call with them, and they’d be all holier than thou, dismissing him, saying “No, we’re HOF refs here.” I think it was their attitudes that really irked him, well, that and the horrible officiating.

Let’s face it, officiating has progressively gotten worse each season in college basketball. This is something that’s gone national media. This season it’s hit an all-time low. There is no consistency, no standard, and it is effecting the outcome of games. It just is.

by FrankensteinsJacket on Feb 24, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Consistency

The only thing consistent in college basketball is dicky v will always have on a blue tie.

by iEatWildcats4Lunch on Feb 24, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree with CRP about not pressing on the road

We made our big run the first 5 minutes of the second half. It had turned into a playground pickup game. Both teams running and running hard. After UC called a TO they slowed the game down and turned it into a half court game.

We are not good in our half court set. Everyone standing around waiting for Siva to drive (sometimes too deep) and dish.

We need to press and run to make up for our problems on offense. GO CARDS!!!!!

by RB in Bardstown on Feb 24, 2012 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

He'll amp up the press if we are behind in the last ten minutes.

And, with every success the crowd will grow quieter. It just isn’t his first choice apparently.

by Unseld2Beard on Feb 24, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

We look like a totally different team when we press and run. I realize we can’t press every time, but we can push the pace, and that would definitely open up more scoring opportunities.

by cardcorefan on Feb 24, 2012 7:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He Usually Does Press on the Road

Pressing at WVU got us the win. (We had Wayne though). From what I took from his statements, it was a very hostile atmosphere (more so than others we’ve seen this season), and I think the way UC was able to knock down long threes and had a veteran backcourt, that pressing them could’ve gotten dangerous. It was a gamble either way, he decided not to, I’m cool with it for last night’s situation.

by FrankensteinsJacket on Feb 24, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

We only made a handful FGs in the last 5 minutes

And off of those presses, we generated a near turnover (Chane tipped the ball out), and Russ had the steal that he then got stuffed by Gates. So yeah, I think we fully wanted to press, but if we can’t make shots, we can’t get it going.

by bartenpa on Feb 24, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Russ drove me crazy last night.

I usually can handle some “Russ is as Russ does”. And I get that you have to take the good with the bad. But there were so many instances of Russ taking an insane shot instead of passing to his wide open teammate under the basket that I was trembling with anger. It was obvious cincy knew that they could crowd him when he drove inside because he wasn’t going to give the ball up.

I bleed red and black. I poop blue.

by neecebravo on Feb 24, 2012 8:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Why the hate on Russ....

but continued love for Siva? That’s the thing I don’t understand about Cardinal nation right now … is the continued love for Siva. True, when he’s on & all the stars align he is one of the best in the nation. The problem is that he tries too much to take the game over & probably 50-50 if not worse, ends up giving he game away b/c he’s not controlled.

by 'VilleBalla on Feb 24, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I mean.... when someone speaks the truth about Siva

the only response is “don’t even” … Don’t get me wrong. His speed is ankle-breaking and he can finish some amazing shots. But he still hasn’t matched his skills with his speed yet and that gets him (and the team) in trouble often.

by 'VilleBalla on Feb 24, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He's the guy with the ball in his hands.

Being the one making the big plays happen, he will undoubtedly make mistakes. All point guards do. It’s why we track assist to turnover ratio. It’s not a question of if a point guard will turn it over, it’s how much.

Last time I checked his A/T ratio was 2.7. It’s probably gone up since then, but even that’s not bad. Teague’s was 2.6 at the time.

Also, he’s battled an ankle injury for half the season, he’s a hard worker, loves being a Card, and never quits. He almost singlehandedly won the game for us last night, so it’s probably not a good time to bash him.

by cardcorefan on Feb 24, 2012 9:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You don't want to hear what comes after don't even.

Without Peyton Siva you don’t have this basketball team. I’ve had a peep at what it looks like- it’s ugly.

by GOCARDSATTITUDE on Feb 24, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying Siva has been perfect

But you can never say Siva played selfish. Last night Russ made some selfish moves to get points for himself in my opinion.

I bleed red and black. I poop blue.

by neecebravo on Feb 24, 2012 10:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The thing that drives me crazy with Russ

He will do something absolutely amazing and turn right around and do something completely boneheaded. I know he has had flashes of brilliance this year, but he still has a way to go. Siva does silly things from time to time, but the job is much tougher in playing the 1 spot IMO.

by twistedwedge on Feb 25, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The one thing I'd like to get from Wayne, Gorgui, and Chane next year

is some degree of consistency. It seems like this year CS5, Kyle, and Siva have all 3 been all over the place from game to game. There is just no rock solid leader on the team this year. When you’re a guy that leads primarily by example like Kyle and Chris, the streakiness they’ve had from game to game really hurts that much more. I know it’s not a fair comparison, but last year even when Preston! was having an off night, or hurt, he was still the absolute leader of the team. When CS5 or Kyle are off they just disappear, and you can see Siva’s bad nights written all over his face. Not knocking what those 3 do contribute, but at times we seem a little adrift when games get tight.

by Squidbones on Feb 24, 2012 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

Killer instinct.

Preston had it. You could SEE the intensity in his face, and the worse things got the more focused he became.

by Loouhvul on Feb 24, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't Like to Press on the Road?

WTF? There was a day when Rick would press a home team into oblivion.

by JMC1 on Feb 24, 2012 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

He presses on the road

Pay no attention to what the man says. He’s either trying to throw off some scouts, or making it up as he goes. Personally, I lean towards the latter.

People (including more than a few Chronicloids) often accuse Rick of lying – I think it’s more a case of just stream-of-consciousness rambling. Whatever thought comes into his head flies out of his mouth before he thinks about whether it’s accurate.

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Feb 25, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

-1

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Feb 25, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Rozier is getting love because he's the only child of this class

I’m looking forward to an offseason with no looking ahead to what is coming in. I’m perfectly ok with what we have next year if we can get everyone healthy. & There’s the disclaimer. I’m sure somebody will eat a cake or drink some milk or sleep wrong or forget a helmet in practice and get a concussion or collapse coming out of warm up’s or etc..

by redbirdgang on Feb 24, 2012 9:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Chane's fault?

It was obvious with Gorgui out UC (Gates is HUGE) was having their way with Swop inside. Chane was between the devil and the deep blue sea. He could stay out on the wing and corner shooters and let Swop be eaten alive or he could sag in to help Swop and leave the outside guys open. That was a lose-lose situation because we have no backup for Gorgui against anyone that’s tall and over 260 pounds.

by cbcard on Feb 25, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

RP throws games against his assistants

Cronin, Davenport, we never play Donovan or Tubby. The heat was on so he had to create a diversion with Willard and Seton Hall. It is inevitable, RP wants to build up their resumes. Just pitch this game, not playing Chane is evidence enough. RP threw the game and gave Cronin a big hug afterwards, check the tape.

by Chip Constant on Feb 25, 2012 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

I can't tell

whether this is excellent satire or unbelievable paranoia.

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Feb 25, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

No, Game was Thursday night.

But it does go to show you, if it’s not one thing, it’s another.

by cbcard on Feb 25, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It started as satire but has morphed into conspiracy

I just cant understand some of RPs moves sometimes. The injuries, the recruiting, the coachspeak. I never thought he was a superb bench coach, but he had a system. I cannot escape the fact that their is some agenda other than coaching basketball. There is just something missing here.

by Chip Constant on Feb 26, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

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