Rick Pitino Doubts Louisville Will Leave The Big East
by Mike Rutherford on Feb 2, 2012 1:22 PM EST
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PrintIt's like re-watching a favorite television series. You catch a few small things that you didn't before, but all the major characters, themes and lines and are still exactly as you remember them.
With national reports regarding the likelihood of Louisville being invited to the Big 12 surfacing in the past week, it's not surprising that the topic would be brought up during today's Big East conference call. Equally unsurprising was the response from U of L's head basketball coach.
"I doubt it," Rick Pitino said with regard to the probability of Louisville leaving the Big East. "I think that there was a chance last year but from what I understand some of the members of the [Big 12] conference don't want to split the revenue and they want to stick at 11, so at least personally I'm hoping we stay put.
"But you never know in this landscape today, I don't decide those things."
The Big 12 is actually currently at 10 teams, and would move to 11 if it added U of L.
Pitino touched on the topic again briefly when he was asked about the Cardinals' game against West Virginia in Morgantown on Feb. 11.
"This is our third straight year that we have come to West Virginia," he said. "I always request it every year. Generally you would see in the Big East that somebody would come back to you the following year, but [Big East Commissioner] John Marinatto's a dear friend and I always tell him, ‘Look, don't let West Virginia come to Louisville. I'd like to visit one more time.'
"And now it adds extra meaning because they're going into the Big 12 so it will be the last time we play against each other."
I can't wait for the episode where the politicians get involved. I think it's my favorite. The only problem I have is the believability of any state - even West Virginia - electing the Manchin character. I'm all about the willing suspension of disbelief, but I mean there's a limit.
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The only thing I don't get about this
Is why does Pitino want to play in Morgantown every year? The rest is just RickTalk to me
:facepalm:
The force is strong with this one.
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 2, 2012 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey where are you in Bama? I live here too. Pretty rare i come across a card fan here
by LouisvilleSklardinalFAN02 on Feb 2, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Only people that live in Attalia
Are interbred cousins and toothless, rednecked POS!
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Dear Lord I wish that man could just shut up about conference stuff.
A simple “I have no idea — that’s Tom Jurich’s job and I’m just focused on coaching this team” would have sufficed.
I could be mistaken (I'm not), but it seems to me that I heard another Louisville coach give that exact answer earlier this year when the original episode aired ....
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Feb 2, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
You are not mistaken that THAT coach said exactly the right thing. Point blank period.
by Carolina Cardinal on Feb 2, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, he sure did
And screw that Rick wants, honestly. He has his new glorious arena complete with a state of the art practice facility. Time to STFU.
Jurich is a football guy. He’s going to make whatever decision benefits football. Building that program has been his primary concern since he came here, and nothing Rick says is gonna deter him from doing right by it.
If we do move to the Big 12 and Rick suddenly doesn’t want to coach here anymore, so be it.
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Say what?
How could you possibly make the argument that Jurich is a “football guy”? Louisville is and always will be a basketball school. To claim otherwise is to deny the history and tradition of our school. We like football, but it will NEVER enjoy the passion and adulation of the basketball program.
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 2, 2012 2:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
says the older fan
the Younger generations don’t covet basketball quite like the older people do. or so it seems in my circles. Give me football season any day over basketball.
+1
Don’t get me wrong, I love UL basketball and never miss a game. But football is where my heart is.
-Dustin
A few losses and people forget.
Hell, even UK fans were saying UK was a football school when they went to their first bowl in 25 years and BCG was running the basketball program into the ground.
Just wait until the expectations for Strong increase to good bowls instead of just bowls. Then we can talk.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Feb 2, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Forget what?
We were still a basketball school when Petrino was winning damn near every game every year.
We are an elite basketball program in Kentucky. College basketball is king of the bluegrass. That is not changing anytime soon.
It would take 20 years of 10+ win seasons to even sniff the upper echelon of top tier football programs. Im fully confident it could happen, but we are far far away from that goal. Going to a conference where our football team will be thrown to the wolves will not be all rosy like some of you think it could will be. Be careful what you wish for.
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 2, 2012 3:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Forget we're a basketball school first and foremost.
It makes sense people are excited about football. I am too. But, I’m with you. Pitino is falling short of expectations and strong is exceeding them. But, objectively, there’s no contest as to which program has been the most successful over any time frame.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Feb 2, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
This pretty much sums it up
After we lost to Marshall it’s “I can’t wait until basketball season”. After we lost to Providence it’s “I can’t wait until football season”.
Louisville fans are just fans of whatever team is doing well. And for the record I think Jurich is turning UofL into an all around Athletics school. We’re competitive in every sport that we participate in
Agreed.
I am as excited about our football program as anyone, and I really like HCCS so far.
I don’t know what to think about Pitino. I have always been an ardent supporter, and as long as he is our coach, I will try and stay that way. I have a real hard time blaming him when we have had so many injuries the last few years. But I am getting tired of early exits and off court drama.
On the flip side of your comment earlier, give us a final four run, and Louisville will once again be Rick’s oyster,
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 2, 2012 4:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
You just contradicted yourself
He said Jurich is a “football guy,” not Louisville is a “football school.” Jurich and Louisville are not mutually inclusive.
Jurich IS a football guy, in that he knows football will be what drives this athletic program to long-term financial (and conference) stability. That said… clearly Jurich wants the basketball program to be great, and it is. But his goal from the beginning has been to bring the football program to a similar level as the basketball program.
by quiet cardinal on Feb 2, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
We do just fine financially where we are.
We wouldn’t fit in the Big 12. We cannot compete in football. I’m sorry, but that’s the truth. We open no new recruiting areas by moving and I would argue that it would actually hurt recruiting as our current recruiting areas would start to dry up when we don’t play within 1000 miles of our recruits homes. If we want to move to the Big 12 solely because of money, I will be extremely disappointed in my alma mater.
We have an extremely profittable and stable athletic program. There is no reason to rock the boat.
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 2, 2012 4:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Have you heard of this newfangled thing they call the BCS?
Tells us why “that’s the truth” U of L can’t compete in Big XI(I) football b/c so far all I see is opinion.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 2, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Tell* us
For example, why wouldn’t it open up new recruiting beds? I hear Texas has a few football players. And 1,000 miles away from home? You mean Syracuse, Rutgers, Pitt, Boise, SDSU, Houston, SMU, Navy & AFA? We could always keep scheduling OOC teams like FIU, FSU & Miami if that’s an issue.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 2, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
We barely finished above .500 in the Big East.
Do you want me to go on?
Unbridled optimism is great; but at some point you have to deal with reality. The Big 12 is one of the premier football conferences in America.
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 2, 2012 5:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And I would LOVE to add Miami, FSU, and Florida ooc. We used to take a play anyone anywhere mentality under Smith and Petrino, and winning a couple of those games did way more to put us on the map than finishing under. 500 in a football power conference would ever do.
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 2, 2012 5:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Go look at objective (computer) conference rankings from 5-8 years ago.
Petrino’s teams were atop the Big East when the Big East was ranked as the 2nd or 3rd best football conference, i.e. 2006-07. He sent 20+ players to the NFL from Louisville.
We can compete in a “premier” conference. It can be done. It’s already been done.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 2, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
That is the fault of Coach HWNSNBS
If it hadn’t been for him we would have been a consistant 1, 2, or worst case scenario 3 in the league, year in and year out.
So you'd like to take our performance from this season
with a rebuilding squad full of freshmen, extrapolate it out on into infinity, and say we will never compete in the Big 12!?
My main contention with your points is just the lack of basic logic. The bottom line is that our goal should be to have extremely healthy basketball AND football programs. Considering this goal, we need to get out of the Big East ASAP because basketball is not nearly as dependent on conference affiliation as football is for both long and short-term success.
by quiet cardinal on Feb 2, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
No.
We don’t have the horses to compete in the Big 12, and nothing from our history indicates we will ever.
Class
Rank Avg.
Stars Big 12
Rank
2002 - 2.39 8
2003 35 2.39 8
2004 - 2.13 9
2005 45 2.59 7
2006 34 2.92 4
2007 41 3.06 3
2008 - 2.59 7
2009 - 2.31 10
2010 48 2.86 10
2011 29 3.15 Tied 3
2012 40 3.00 Tied 6
*Premature post above.
I was trying to paste a table, but the formatting screwed up.
The table is the last ten years of recruiting classes, the class rank, average stars, and where that particular class would rank in with the current members of the Big 12; Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, and TCU. WVU was excluded.
In the last 10 years, our recruiting class would have cracked the top 5 in the Big 12 three times. We would have been in the bottom 3 five times. I’m not trying to sound like the harbinger of bad news, but those types of numbers does not a competitive team make. I would expect a marginal jump in class ranking once we joined the Big 12, but considering that we were in one of the top football conferences in America starting in 2005 and were still being outrecruited by the Big 12, I don’t think the jump would be high enough to put us in the top third of the conference.
We do not have a natural talent pool in Kentucky like the in state pools enjoyed by the Texas and Oklahoma schools. Instead we rely on getting the best players we can find out of Florida and Georgia. For some reason, at the moment some of them will come while we play in the Big East, but I don’t believe we would still have the appeal once we moved to the Big 12. I personally believe that we are reaping the benefits of familiarity of the Big East in that kids and their parents at least grew up with the Florida schools being members. We won’t have that advantage once we move.
Another side to that coin is...
Parents will be able to see their kids play the likes of UT, OU, KState, Okie lite, TCU, Baylor, etc. when they play in your stadium. I’m not convinced how much that will appeal to a recruit, it will remain to be seen. Because, I firmly believe that you WILL be joining the Big XII – and soon.
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
You're right, Bama
Last year’s Louisville team would not have been competitive in the Big 12.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
After all sports bills are paid, we are not an extremely profitable program.
Basketball does great, but to say you would be disappointed in your alma mater for turning down an extra 15 million dollars a year in revenue is just plain ridiculous. No reason to rock the boat? Aggressively fighting change gets you no where. You either capitalize on the current environment or you end up screwed. We have the weight to throw ourselves into a better financial position that is an improvement in competition for football and a wash in basketball. People thinking the BIG XII + L’ville isn’t a premiere league should take off their Rick Pitino goggles.
by James Sutherland on Feb 2, 2012 6:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Joining the Big XII will be instant money windfall.
If, for nothing else, the huge TV contract and the National appeal. In addition, OU and UT travel well for sure and your local merchants are gonna love them.
The Big East rules in basketball, but the Big XII delivers the football goods.
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
If we're not extremely profitable after all sports bills are paid
it’s because we’re building new stadiums left and right, and spending a lot of money to upgrade facilities. Our “revenue sports” are extremely profitable; our basketball program would rank among the top football programs in revenues.
And what constitutes “extremely profitable” in your eyes? What are the extremes of overall sports profitability in college athletics today? I don’t have the figures, but I’d be extremely surprised if we didn’t rank at or near the top.
That said, I think the Big 12 would be a step up in football – and this year, it’s arguably a better basketball league. Last night I watched a game between two top-10 teams. Both were in the Big 12. Jeff Sagarin rates the Big East third behind the Big Ten and the Big 12.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
Missouri's rise has been strange.
Must be Fuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr.
by Carolina Cardinal on Feb 5, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
our football program
has more post season wins, than our basketball team since hccs has been here.
Louisville as a athletic program is good, between the men’s and woman’s basketball, football, tennis, swimming, baseball and softball teams are all ranked or soon to be ranked.
Semper Fi
by usmcCARDS on Feb 2, 2012 5:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
Jurich IS a football guy
He played football in college and with the Minnesota Vikings (“for about a minute” says he) as a kicker.
When he was hired in here he straight up stated that it was his goal to get the football program up to national relevance.
Oh yes…he is a football guy, by his own discription.
Because I've read for several years that Jurich is a "football guy"
I don’t know the man, but I’ve heard the consensus enough to kinda believe it.
This is a basketball city with rich tradition, and always has been. I don’t think anyone would attempt to justify otherwise. What I was saying though, is Jurich wants to build the football program into a national power also. And a move to the Big 12 would only help the cause while preserving basketball and not hurting it in the slightest. I think Jurich will make whatever decision is necessary for ensuring the long-term success of that side of things. Basketball will be fine whether we stay in the BE or make the jump to B12.
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Yes, Louisville is a basketball school.
And yes, Jurich is a football guy.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
Sure, we would rather Pitino say this.
But, this isn’t Pitino’s first coaching job. its not his third year. He doesn’t have an opinion opposite to that of a much more powerful coach. Strong isn’t stupid. Getting in a public debate with Pitino would be dumb. He obviously would clearly rather go to the Big12, and I’d bet everything I have that he is telling recruits UL is big12 bound.
Pitino’s job is to look out for basketball (sort of- this is open to debate). It is clearly better for basketball to stay in the BE.
Have you all ever thought that maybe Pitino is recruiting north eastern kids and is telling their mothers that they’ll be able to see their boys play in person?
by johnnyjoejohnson on Feb 2, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
EXACTLY!
HEY RICK! SHUT THE FUCK UP!
WORK ON ANOTHER EXCUSE FOR LOSING A RECRUIT. OR TELL US HOW BAD GORGUI IS PLAYING, JUST KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT WHEN IT COMES TO FOOTBALL. TYPICAL PITINO BULLSHIT, NATIONAL SIGNING DAY OUTSHINING HIM, AND HE HAS TO GO PISS ON EVERYBODY’S PARADE. SICK OF IT……
by ville 606 on Feb 2, 2012 4:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
What are you smoking?
Any conference move directly impacts all sports, not just football.
If you have that much of a problem with Rick, just buy yourself a UK hat and be done with it since you sound like a little wildcat bitch in your post. You may not like Rick but he is our coach and our program rests solely in his hands. Support our team or STFU and GTFO!
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 2, 2012 4:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey pal.
Why don’t you shut the hell up. I can fucking speak if I want, the two tats I got representing this school say it all. You reference me to UK again you can just bring that shit on big boy!
by ville 606 on Feb 2, 2012 11:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL - Oh yeah, you two are gonna fit right in down here!
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
Actually, the Big XII DOES play a little thump thump, now and then.
Kansas, Kansas State, Texas, Iowa State and OU would like a word with you. :-)
We just prefer American football. That shin kicking sport (soccer) is foreign sport and shouldn’t be allowed in the states.
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
Nope
Bird head, and LOUISVILLE down the forearm.
Somebody calls me a UK fan they might as well smack my mother. I might not make the best sense all the time, but I ain’t gonna take that shit. Just wish Rick would learn to say “next question” or “no comment”.
by ville 606 on Feb 2, 2012 11:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My bad man.
The UK comment was a little over the top. I was in a real bad mood yesterday, and I had had enough of all the Rick bashing.
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 3, 2012 7:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe take a break for a minute, dude.
I would be worried if Pitino was giddy about moving to the Big XII. Jurich’s job to tell RP to STFU, be mad at him I guess.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 2, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
WTF??
Rick gave an opinion that moving to the Big XII isn’t likely now because the current Big XII schools don’t want to share the money. I think he’s right. And he was asked.
And why should he want to go to the Big XII? How hard will it be to get northeast basketball recruits out into cattle country in another time zone?
I know I shouldn’t be, but I am still amazed at the vitriol that pours out all over this board whenever Pitino’s name is mentioned. It’s totally unjustified.
by Loouhvul on Feb 2, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Manchin is definitely a season 3 character
Conceived by the team that takes over when the original show creators have left to work on a new show.
In what episode does this series "jump the shark"?
I’m going with when a high level politician of one conference applicant pees in a competitor’s cereal (more or less)
OT: Funny blog of the day: The “Blog” of “Unneccessary” Quotation Marks (http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com … I’m on my phone, paste it “yourself”)
Ex:
by uoflcard on Feb 2, 2012 2:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Are, unnecessary quotation marks, similar to, say, Shatner commas?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Shatner%20commas&defid=4307935
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by UofL Redbirds on Feb 2, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
lol seems like it's in the same arena
by uoflcard on Feb 2, 2012 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My prediction
Boeheim gets the boot from Syracuse, Pitino is the new cuse head coach and Louisville heads to the big 12. Sorry but I’m also of these crazy fans that isn’t excited about playing in the big 12.
by HaHaSypher on Feb 2, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That scenario is NOT happening.
The reason: It’s just not. Supporting fact: RP wants to be in the Big East. Who’s headed the ACC? Syracuse.
I agree that I’d rather stay in the current Big East, but soon it will be C-USA 2.0. B12 is best option. Their basketball is getting stronger and their football is very good.
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Feb 2, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
maybe
But does Rick love the big east or just inner city schools and talent,,remember there is no Madison Square gardens anymore for the big east tournament, just my thoughts, I mean he did admit to having interest in providence. The man is absolutely loved in the north east, wouldn’t suprise me at all.
by HaHaSypher on Feb 2, 2012 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Big East tourney is leaving MSG?
I hadn’t hear that.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
or heard it
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
Is this a joke? Because it is the stupidest thing I've ever heard if it isn't.
by James Sutherland on Feb 2, 2012 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what exactly makes it the stupidest thing you ever heard?
My opinion that I believe Pitino will leave for Syracuse if and when boeheim gets the boot and we enter the big 12? What’s makes that so stupid? I geuss you know the fate of the program and of Rick?
by HaHaSypher on Feb 2, 2012 4:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rick Pitino to Syracuse is absurd.
by James Sutherland on Feb 2, 2012 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My sources have confirmed that this move is "heating up"
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 2, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
i said rick will return to the north east (syracuse)
No shit they are not in the Big east, but he still gets to stay home and recruit kids to New York and the ACC is much easier to recruit inner city kids to then the big 12.
for one thing
they aren’t named scorpiocard.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
But if pitino says we aint going
Then you bet that we will be there.
by HaHaSypher on Feb 2, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
can we just move to the Big 12 already
Pitino will quit and maybe we can get someone who doesn’t talk all the time.
Pitino?
Where is Louisville’s football coach in this discussion? Shouldn’t he be allowed to voice an opinion on Louisville and the Big 12?
What an idiot this Pitino guy is from what I see. Imagine, a basketball coach voicing an opinion on matters related to football. I have never heard of any conference where a basketball coach is allowed to be the spokesperson for the school. Enough said.
Thank God, the Big 12 had the sense to not invite Louisville. I would hate to see this idiot every year.
Not really.
This is what people in other parts of the country think of Pitino.
I travel a lot, and he is thought of as a washed up idiot who got into a sex scandal, by most of the country.
Just Google his name and see what the top options are.
People who think Pitino is nationally admired are living in LA LA LAND.
ok I understand that.
I still love the picture in response to the troll. My comment wasn’t intended to go much deeper than that :)
by quiet cardinal on Feb 2, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
by most of the people you talk to, you mean.
Listen to the national media talk about him and it’s all respect.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
That's no UT guy - look at his posts.
He is just a poser and I assure you, most of the people down here, INCLUDING the Big XII directors, would be delighted to have Louie join the conference.
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
exactly why he will eventually leave
All you have to do is read this blog and you’ll see how the fans feel about Pitino. I’m waiting till we run him out of town and jurich hires a kragthorpe for basketball and all the “deserve better than pitino” haters have to eat their words.
by HaHaSypher on Feb 2, 2012 3:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And why are you drinking his Kool-Aid?
Yes he’s a hall of fame coach. We all know this. But other then that, watcha got? He is paid very well, so in matters like this he needs to be like all other people in his position and keep his mouth shut. They asked Charlie a while back what he thought and he said, “that is Mr. Jurich and Dr. Ramsey’s decision.” My point is why can’t Rick be more focused on making Louisville basketball great, and quit worrying about everything else. Obviously he is jealous of the very well deserved success the new football staff is having. We don’t do something conference wise, it’s gonna be much harder to chase the football vultures off of our staff.
by ville 606 on Feb 2, 2012 4:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Strong also acted ignorant about the Hurtt-Miami allegations saying he didn't read the report. And was mum on Sanford for weeks.
Don’t expect RP to be CS or vice versa. Nothing’s changed with Pitino, he was the same guy when U of L hired him & when the Cards were in the Final Four. It’s grating when we’re not making Sweet 16s & E8s every year, that’s the issue here.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 2, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine
Any coach voicing their opinion on where Louisville ends up, because guess what? It’s going to affect their sport as well.
Question:
Which sport would you say brings in more revenue for a school? Basketball or football?
Pitino may have his biased opinion, but if Tom Jurich were a good athletics director, he would remind Pitino that he is only the basketball coach and not the AD and he certainly is not the spokesperson for the university.
uh, dude. this isn't texas. This is kentucky. This is basketball country.
Football doesn’t compete with Basketball around here. In texas you’re absolutely right.
Fans feel differently about it, but pitino has the capital to say stuff like this.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Feb 2, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Then it puzzles me...
why Louisville is aggressively seeking membership in the Big 12. It doesn’t make any sense if you cannot compete in football to try to move to a football conference. Louisville may be better served by remaining in the Big East.
Kansas? We go to Big 12
we compete for a title every year in basketball.
by ville 606 on Feb 2, 2012 4:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Sure, but
his opinion could be something along the lines of “I really like coaching in the Big East because it’s an incredible basketball league but I don’t know what our future will hold” instead of “I doubt we’ll go to the Big 12.” One statement has potentially negative side effects, the other one doesn’t.
Really?
Read this article again. Pitino stated he personally would like to stay in the Big East and Marinatto is “a dear friend.”
I would say statements such as these would have a negative effect on how the Big 12 sees Louisville.
That's great and all
but
1) I already said he should have just said he doesn’t know what the future holds (so as to not risk hurting football recruiting)
and
2) Nothing “this Pitino guy” says is going to change how the Big 12 feels about Louiville.
That's true...
I don’t see Louisville standing a chance to get into the Big 12 anytime soon. Not if DeLoss Dodds (UT’s athletic director) has anything to say about it and he is on the expansion committee.
But still interesting, is Pitino worrying about his basketball more than anything else. That doesn’t make Louisville look good to any football conference.
I highly doubt the big 12 wouldn't want a school because the basketball coach wants what's best for basketball.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Feb 2, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't this...
the reason why the football schools are trying to leave the Big East?
From what I read, the Big East was looking out for the interests of the basketball schools and not the football schools.
I thought the Big 12 was an all-sports conference.
Damn, that changes everything! We can join the Big 12 football conference and keep all our other sports in the Big East!
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
You're right, UT
The Big 12 would never want a school whose basketball coach is a dear friend of the Big East commissioner. Because, um…
Wait. He’s only a basketball coach, right?
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
But he puts up such straw-man arguments, it's fun to poke at them.
I think he’s a UofL Athletic Department intern instructed by Pitino to make the haters look stupid. And he’s doing a great job.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
RedRage11 doubts anyone gives a shit what Rick Pitino has to say about conference realignment
Just shut up already.
"We are on a collision course with the national championship; the only variable is time"
No, YOU shut up!
Sorry. I don’t mean that. It’s just my automatic response.
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Feb 2, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Is this "Pitino-speak"? So, when you say "shut up" you really mean "I like corn beef sandwiches", right?
Damn, I think I’m catching on to this “Pitino-speak” business.
by Carolina Cardinal on Feb 2, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
double secret
I know it’s true because I bugged Dean Wormer’s office
Probably my single favorite quote on this site.
I just laughed as hard as I did the first time. Puts Mike’s face on probation… Fucking priceless.
Is Mike’s face free yet? #FreeMikesFace
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Feb 3, 2012 3:13 AM EST up reply actions
Why do you guys always act like Pitino isn't asked these questions?
You guys act like he calls for a press confrence at 7 o’ clock on prime time national television to just start talking randomly about these things. He’s asked his opinion from time to time on various topics and all he does is give his opinion.
“WHO CARES WHAT RICK SAYS” I don’t know I guess whoever asked him the question.
He was on a BE confrence call what is he suppose to say “nah we’re going to big 12” awkward silence
And it’s not just this but when he is asked about another team that isn’t playing well and says"they are a really really great team" You guys jump all over him like he just came out and started randomly blowing smoke up people’s ass. What is he suppose to say? “they are awful” Yeah that will go over well.
It just seems the people who hate Rick are going to complain about anything he says
What Pitino should say....
when asked a question on whether or not Louisville will move to the Big 12: that is a decision to be made by the president of the university and the athletic director. They will make a decision on what they think is right for the university. Instead, he states: “personally, I want to stay (in the Big East).”
Rick Pitino is a "master" manipulator of the media
Are you trying to tell me that he doesn’t know how to diplomatically handle a question about conference affiliation without making yet more needless, unproductive headlines?
Just because someone asks your opinion doesn’t mean you have to actually give it straight up. It’s PR 101 and Rick knows it.
Charlie Strong is no media savant, but even HE knows how to give a non-answer response (i.e. “for some reason it stopped” during yesterday’s press conference").
by quiet cardinal on Feb 2, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
If you're going to give him credit for being a master manipulator of the media
then maybe you ought to allow for the possibility that he is accomplishing something you don’t understand. It doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense to say “You’re a master manipulator of the media. Shut up.”
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
CRP needs to shut that yapper of his and get on board the TRAIN..next stop BIG XII.
if he dont like that idea i am sure there are pleanty of good coaches out there that can recruit us average talent and coach them into injury laden seasons..!
Our Friend from Texas raises a good point
This is what sports are in the Big 12. Kansas is the only school that consistently cares about Basketball.
Dude doesn’t know who pitino is, or why he would be talking and Strong wouldn’t.
Is this what we want? It would be nice for stability. But, basketball would take a hit.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Feb 2, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions
I guess the question for Louisville should be..
do you want stability or do you want to remain in a basketball conference? It seems Louisville fans are divided on this issue.
Stability, thats funny.
The greed of your trash school is what started this whole unstable mess in the first place.
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 2, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
FIRST OF ALL HE IS NOT FROM TEXAS!
He is a troll, simple as that.
Secondly, you should get your facts straight before you downgrade Texas.
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
FUCK TEXAS!!!1!
All there is in Texas are steers and queers, and cattle can’t type.
by Card_in_Bama on Feb 3, 2012 7:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's looks as if the troll was certainly right about you!
The fact you are Bama sorta explains a lot of things about you.
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
Got it - cattle can't type, only queers and YOU!
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
Basketball would be fine.
Kentucky plays in the SEC…they suck. The cayuts seem to be doing fine.
Wouldn’t be as exciting as the big east, but I would trade a little less excitement in bball for more in fball.
Actually while it will always be # 2 Texas has a pretty good B-Ball program
And OK and OK St have had good programs on an off
the Big 12 has twice as many teams in the top 10 as the Big East
and as I pointed out above, is rated above the Big East in Sagarin’s conference ratings.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
Holy shit our basketball coach has his own opinion!!!!
Lol Let Rick say whatever he wants, at the end of the day it’s not his decision. And anyone of importance involved with conference realignment knows that
by Cards86 on Feb 2, 2012 4:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't know Pitino but,
it strikes me as rather odd that his opinions do matter to some Louisville fans and so he speaks out.
He forgets that he is representing Louisville when he voices personal opinions about anything. It would be like college football players making their university look bad when they get into trouble with the law. The players “represent” their university in the media’s eyes so what they do or say is an indirect reflection of the university.
UT4Big12 - You ain't from Texas, Sport!
In fact, I think you are actually a posing Louiville nutcase, getting your jollies stirring up the natives with your trolling.
Either that or you are some Big East goober posing as a UT fan becasue you are pissed that Louisville is on the brink of leaving your sorry excuse for a conference!
I suggest to you Louisville posters you ignore this doofus – he ain’t one of ours!
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
I want to go to the Big 12 now
just so we can interact with guys like this. “That goddamn UT4Big12 sum-beetch is a troll I tell ya!” -in my best Texas Cowboy accent
Aw, now you see? We're being stereotyped already. :-)
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
I have no problem with TX
My grandmother was from Wacko. You might say it’s Waco but then you never met my grandmother.
LOL - Actually, my wife is from Wacko and that is just what the natives call it themselves.
And you have never met my wife! :-)
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
Stay in the Big East
We do not want you joining our conference. WVU fans are right about Louisville. You have delusions of grandeur!
Thanks for the insult...
but let’s see, I was born in Galveston, Texas in 1956, I graduated from Texas City High School (1975) in Texas City, Texas…I went to school at the University of Texas (Austin campus) in the mid to late 70’s, I am a member of the Texas Exes, I am a member of the UT Longhorn Foundation (I donate annually to the foundation), I have season tickets in one of the nation’s best college football stadiums (Darrel K Royal Memorial Stadium-capacity 102,000+). According to all of this, I would say I am from Texas!
I came to this board in peace and now I get insulted by the likes of you! Yes, I am not one of you nor would I want to be.
Do you sell propane and propane accessories?
Are you sure you weren’t born in New York City?
Sorry, really couldn’t help it. Some of my best friends are Texans…
Bullshit!
I don’t believe a word you said. Everything you said came straight out of Wikipedia. You are pathetic. You are simply a troll and not a very good one at that!
You are an embarrassment to the Big XII, Texas and the University. You have my e-mail address. If what you say is true, why don’t you send your membership number to me, if you belong to the foundation and are a Texas ex. I happen to be a member myself. I’ll look you up and we can discuss this face to face.
Why don’t you go back to your Cincinnati blog and bore them for a while.
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
My Texas Ex ID:
Is 4358469. My membership is due to be renewed in October of this year. Now, are you going to ask me for my Longhorn Foundation Donor ID # as well?
I really don’t give an f*** if you believe me or not. I don’t have to prove anything to you, idiot!
Embarrassment to the Big 12, Texas and the University? That is exactly what you have proved to be here.
One thing I learned about Louisville fans is that they have no class, you included.
No class? With all due respect, screw you, you arrogant piece of shit.
by Carolina Cardinal on Feb 3, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
You have just proved my point
By the way, WVU Mountaineers say hello.
WVU is where you belong. Borrow the family tooth and get on over there.
by Carolina Cardinal on Feb 3, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Folks, I must apologize for trolls crap.
He is not representative of UT fans and I hope you understand this. If you check his profile, you will see he has only posted on this blog – identifying him as a poser.
Down here in Texas, we lynch losers like this one!
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
This is a new one for me...
I am embarrassed that you would even consider yourself a Longhorn fan. I have witnessed other Big 12 schools bash Texas for a number of reasons, but you take the cake on this one. For a Longhorn fan to bash on another Longhorn fan…no one would believe it. You should go to the SEC with Aggy. You have about the same amount of class as those idiots (which is none). Their Texas Aggie War Hymn will make absolutely no sense now that they will not be playing Texas. (“Hullabaloo kaneck kaneck…goodbye to Texas University…goodbye to the orange and the white…” yeah, right!!!)
I have a question for you: Most Longhorn and Big 12 fans post at the www.bluegoldnews.com (West Virginia University) because we are glad and proud to have the Mountaineers in the Big 12. WVU was the best choice to replace Misery. In fact, they are far better than Misery in every way. I’ve posted at www.bluegoldnews.com a number of times. Check it out.
WVU is a member of the Big 12 and Louisville isn’t, so why are you here? You should be welcoming our new members TCU and WVU instead.
I have heard a lot of negative things about Louisville fans and I had to check it out for myself so as not to be biased by someone else’s opinion.
Well, everything I heard was true. Louisville fans are disrespectful, rude, arrogant, paranoid, classless and they have the unmitigated gall to think they will be in the Big 12. I personally am glad they are not in our conference.
If we do expand, I hope we add BYU, Clemson, FSU or any other school that is not any of the remaining Big East schools.
When their commissioner goes all over the country to invite others to join, that was a clear sign that the Big East was desperate. The Big East is trying to maintain “damage control.”
You don't understand - I don't believe you are a Longhorn fan
Why would you come on this blog and belittle these folks? What is your damned agenda?
The below is the definition of trolling. This is THEIR blog, not yours!
Well, everything I heard was true. Louisville fans are disrespectful, rude, arrogant, paranoid, classless and they have the unmitigated gall to think they will be in the Big 12. I personally am glad they are not in our conference.
WVU is a member of the Big 12 and Louisville isn’t, so why are you here? You should be welcoming our new members TCU and WVU instead.
I’m here because these are good people, as opposed to you. They have opinions and if you don’t like them, the buh-bye!
I don’t know what school you represent, but it sure isn’t Texas.
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
borrow the family tooth
Insult of the year. I love it!
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
Hey, he said he was heading for the West Virginia site. I didn't want him to stand out.
I’m kind of a humanitarian that way.
by Carolina Cardinal on Feb 5, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well this was fun, but....
it’s time for me to move on to the WVU boards.
It was interesting to see that Louisville fans are split on what they think is best for Louisville. Maybe Pitino’s loyalty to the Big East will win out in the end.
I would guess 70/30 see the Big XII as the better future option
The Big East was a perfect fit for Louisville. Things change. Some are resistant to change more than others.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 2, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
That's about right.
But for the life of me I can’t understand why anyone would think that an ultra-competitive coach like CRP would be happy about moving from what was once the most competitive basketball league ever to go back to the equivalent of C-USA. I don’t understand how any of us could be happy about it either. Of course the move would be better for football, especially if the Big East folds, but is the Big XII really that much more stable?
Jurich has probably let Rick know that he wants Rick to continue to profess his (and our) loyalty to the Big East, when asked, which allows Jurich to continue to explore all options.
Trust me, with the money involved, the Big XII Ads do not care at all what is said, or by who, until the contracts are drawn up. NOthing Rick could say would case any real deal AD or President to change their minds about anything.
Conference USA?! The Big XII has 3 teams in the top 10 right now.
People saying the BIG XII isn’t a good basketball league are ignoring obvious facts. They have been extremely solid for 10+ years.
by James Sutherland on Feb 2, 2012 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ok, ok, so I exaggerated a little...
No one ever does that around here do they?~
But honestly, other than Kansas, is any other team consistently, and I mean consistently good? Kansas is the only team in the league that’s ever won a title. Oh, sorry, OK St in ’45 & ’46.
Yes, the Big East will take a hit when those teams leave. And ultimately, it will probably make sense for UofL to go too. Great move to the Big XII for football, but no way will it be as sexy as it is now for B-Ball.
And just one more time, it is unbelievably naive to think that any AD or President would ever allow what a “coach” said to make any difference to how they would vote for expansion, so really what does it matter what Rick says?
UL, WVU, KU, UT, and Baylor would be a VERY good basketball league.
I don’t see how that’s any less sexy than UConn, G’town, Marquette, and Cinci.
by James Sutherland on Feb 2, 2012 6:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So why does he keep saying it
Week after week after week after week. I don’t hate the guy. I don’t dislike him. But he has stated his opinion and enough is enough. It’s like a freaking Chinese water torture. Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, dr……..
Nice imagery. IDK, ask a leopard about those spots
He’s incapable of not having an opinion, usually a strong one that he likes nothing more than to share with the world. If TJ did not want him to share his opinion, you can be sure he would not. Pitino is all about loyalty (just to beat everybody to it – in most instances) and he would not be saying anything if Tom were telling him not to.
Just last year he made the statement that if Tom wanted him on the rooftops waving a Big XII flag, thats what he would be doing.
I just don’t think you can fault the guy for expressing his opinion when he is asked.
he hasn't been so loyal to his wife
Yeah, I know. Saying this makes me a hater.
Then why haven't you?
it’s time for me to move on to the WVU boards
"Statistics are for losers, I like winning games!" Will Muschamp
I'm on vacation in FL and must have missed the announcement
When did Jurich leave and Ramsey make Pitino the AD?
Where in FL?
Leaving NW area tomorrow. Nice weather today. We should post “feet propped up in sand near ocean” pics. Mike loves that.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 2, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Naples
And at this very moment I am drinking a Modelo Especial so I don’t think I would fit in a Corona commerical.
modelo
mucho gusto…. much better than Corona. Give me a Modelo or Dos Equis any day. Fun fact-most Mexicans refuse to recognize Corona as "the" Mexican beer
by twistedwedge on Feb 3, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Negra Modelo FTW
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
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