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This is Steve Couden showing up the Kentucky Wildcat...who appears to be having a little muffin top action going on.


I must admit to feeling bad for Ace Wales for the way this whole thing played out. That said, he's not going to endear himself to many U of L fans by making statements like this one to WHAS-11's Adam Lefkoe:

"If you want to send the Florida players here to take over Louisville, we're going to all go to WKU to take over"

I suppose Ace feels like he was done wrong, but as has been said countless times before, he had almost two years to commit to Louisville if this was something that meant so much to him.

I think he's more upset than anything, something which shows in an interview with Rick Bozich where he almost sounds depressed.

Even with the statement he made, there's no point in piling on Wales. He's a terrific talent, and from everything I've heard, a great kid. He'll have a solid career at Western.

I actually received a solid number of emails regarding my Andy's TV blurb from last night. Apparently many Louisvillians are as intrigued and/or enthusiastic about Andy's as I am.

One of those emailers just so happened to be the son of "Andy" himself, and he hit me up with a little bit of Andy's knowledge. Here's a portion of the email:

Just a little history because I bet you are curious (and now this trivia will always stay with you)

Andy's TV is over 50 years old, and the original Andy gave his company to his two kids in the 80s. When they retired, they handed the company over to my father who was in the market and looking to be a small business owner. We are a Ukrainian family (came over in '91), and electronic repair was my father's trade in the old country, and it was extremely fortuitous that such a landmark/recognized building to Louisville was on the market at the exact time he was looking to branch out from being just a regular technician.

My father realized the significance of leaving Andy's name, as we all believe it would've fail horribly as Leonard's TV. He even goes by the name Andy on a daily basis to keep up with the persona. Believe it or not, business is great! He stays very busy mostly on service calls. People rarely bring their televisions to the shop anymore, and prefer to get it repaired from the comfort of their own home. The shop hasn't changed in years inside...There is even the original Philco (first television ever mass produced) sitting in the corner among plasmas and LCDs waiting to be fixed.

T-Will came by once to fix something. My dad told me about it. I saw him at 4th Street when I was visiting town once and yelled "Hey! My dad fixed your TV!" and he turned around and said "cool man" and walked away because that may have been the weirdest thing someone's hollered at him.

Has to be email of 2012 so far.

Come for Cardinal sports news, leave with Louisville small business knowledge. If only every other institution could be so diverse. There probably wouldn't be any wars.

Jeff Goodman appeared on "The Two Man Game" with Mark Ennis and I last night, and if you weren't able to catch it, here's a quick review:

--I lobbed him a couple of softballs before hitting him straight with the "where's my prize, bro?"

To his credit, Goodman sounded legitimately apologetic. He claimed he thought about an autographed Steve Masiello picture when he was in Manhattan a couple of weeks ago, but didn't think it was big enough (he's right). Then he threw out the idea of me coming down to New Orleans for Final Four weekend and him paying for an evening on the town (Goodman parties). This got him somewhere.

Obviously, I'll keep you updated on the proceedings.

--Goodman also said that he wasn't "hating" on Louisville when he consistently stated that the Cards were overrated early in the season, he just knew that the loss of Wayne Blackshear was a better deal than most people were making it out to be. He doesn't think that Mike Marra or Stephan Van Treese would have made much of a difference (disagree), but he said losing Blackshear took Louisville from a top ten team to a 20-25 team that will be lucky to make it out of the first weekend of the tournament.

--I did not take the opportunity to drill him for his Gorgui Dieng comment. Suffice it to say, I didn't sleep much last night.

Thanks again to everyone who tuned in. The show's been a lot of fun so far.

Speaking of Blackshear, on his radio show tonight, Rick Pitino said the best anyone should expect from FW is for him to play a few serviceable minutes a game when other players need a break. I think it's understandable that he's setting the bar so low for a player fans had such high expectations for, but who really hasn't played much basketball in the past year.

The only other interesting tidbit from the show was when he was asked about the gym rats on the team. He said Angel Nunez spends more time in the gym than anyone else, but Peyton Siva was probably second. He said Russ spends the least amount of time in the gym and consistently warns him that it's going to come back and bite him. He singled out Zach Price and Chane Behanan as two other guys who aren't really gym rats, but added that Behanan goes incredibly hard in practice.

This is the perfect time to link this Eric Crawford blog post on how Pitino uses his public voice to motivate.

So for those of you who feel you are being sold something in those postgame comments, congratulations. You're absolutely right.

Not that I think Pitino is saying things he doesn't believe, but I do think he is saying things for reasons other than breaking down a basketball game, or for reasons in addition to that reason. In other words, what he's saying in a postgame news conference is not always necessarily what he might say if he were a media analyst covering the same game. There are different agendas at play, different concerns - how something will be received by an individual player, how something will be used publicly and what impact that might have. But this is part of every coach's makeup to a varying degree.

Pitino, certainly, is able to speak to these things himself, and does whenever asked about them. With the team off this week, I haven't asked him about the Dieng comments specifically, but he doesn't mind to talk more specifically about what he meant. It's very true that coaches, most of them, see more than the rest of us. But it's also true that they are contrarian enough to try to talk us into believing we didn't see what we thought we saw from time to time.

It's one reason that the further removed I get from beat work, the less I tend to use what is said in news conferences.

Hunter Bowles' signing day attire:

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It's officially February, which means it's time for people (especially dudes) to start bitching about how much they hate Valentine's Day.

I have no problem being completely straightforward here: I dig Valentine's Day. I've always dug Valentine's Day. Any chance I get to be overly affectionate without getting made fun of, I'm all about it.

It's a marketing tool for various companies, it puts unnecessary pressure on couples, it makes single people feel like crap; whatever. If it gets people who wouldn't ordinarily say "I love you" or do something thoughtful for someone else saying "I love you" and doing something thoughtful for someone else, I'm good with it.

I just want us all to be overly affectionate together.

Don't tell me I love too much.

Gonna go ahead and completely ruin the warm vibes by turning the attention to Sports Illustrated's Andy Glockner, who gives CC a little shoutout in his latest Bubble Watch.

SHOULD BE IN

Louisville (17-5, 5-4; RPI: 28, SOS: 42)

Cardinals fans didn't take very kindly to my Twitter query as to why they were going ballistic after a late three to ice a game against a league bottomfeeder. That said, it was a nice moment for Jared Swopshire and any win for the Cards is important while they get healthier. They backed that up with a nice road win at Seton Hall to really help lock in their position.
GW: Vanderbilt, Long Beach State, Memphis?, at Seton Hall
BL: Home to Notre Dame?, at Providence by 31

Glockner also apparently noticed johnnyjoejohnson's FanShot and took out his frustrations on me.

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Would have never bought that Villanova was tied for 13th if he hadn't dropped the "facts" hashtag on me. After that though, I was like, "no way this guy's playing."

You're all right, Glockner.

You know what's not all right?

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Having a little debate with my dad. He claims at the end of the new Villen video that Pitino is telling Herb Pope "don't play high, OK?" I'm not exactly sure what he says, but I think the "high" is actually "hard." I posed the question on Twitter and the response was pretty split.

Watch the exchange and draw your own conclusion.

Louisville.com profiles Deion Branch, who will go for his third Super Bowl title on Sunday.

Harry Douglas digs the hustle.

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I dig Harry Douglas.

I'm usually all about women's rights, but this is exactly why they don't get a DePaul Day.

I guarantee at least one person emails me pissed off about that. I guarantee it. Don't be that person. Please, don't be that person.

According to the Rivals rankings, Rutgers still wound up with the best class in the Big East, with Louisville finishing second.

The Cards fell just outside of the top 25 in ESPN's class rankings, where they again trail only Rutgers in the Big East.

"Wales Picks WKU Over Louisville" (which is everywhere) is the most misleading headline since...I really don't want to say "Dewey Defeats Truman," but there aren't a whole lot of other options in the "famous newspaper screw-ups" department. I'd try to make a funny one up but I fear the moment has passed us now.

Today was the best day you'll have in your four years of being a Kentucky football player, Langston Newton.

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And finally, the official recruiting class press release from U of L.

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I love you, Mike.

And I don’t care who knows it.

by cardcorefan on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I <3 Mike

and the Walking Dead tweets.. which btw it starts back in 2 weeks..

"You are not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are all singing, all dancing crap of the world."

by rockchickpeg on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

"FW" took me a second

And then, the lightbulb appeared.

by cardsrgood on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

Hey hey hey!

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Feb 2, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

If he does.

The whole place will go absolutely bonkers. But I doubt that happens.

by RedHeadfortheRedBirds on Feb 2, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

In re Lady Cards

I’m a big, big women’s basketball fan, but you get no grief from me on the “no DePaul Day” comment. They threw one away they should have won, and their own coach pretty much called them out for it. I just hope it’s their “clunker” for the season, as they’ve got a chance to make some noise come post-season time.

I WOULD like to see some game-thread posts for them if they have a game compelling enough to get the general fan into it (such as a semi game against UConn), but I know that the regular games probably wouldn’t draw enough interest to make such a post worthwhile. Still, a thought if they make a run.

BTW — love the blog. And your writing style.

by Bruce in Louisville on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

Yep

I don’t hate women’s rights (my wife would crack a skillet on my head) but I sure hated the way the women played at DePaul. Sort of a six paper bag job if I want to send mixed signals.

by cbcard on Feb 2, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Pope

I think Pitino’s giving him a compliment “you played hard (or well)” and then simultaneously responding to whatever Pope was saying to him by saying “okay.” It’s a weird exchange. Notice Pitino looking past the other Hall players and straight to Pope. Also great watching Dieng shake hands and just seeming daze.

by REALISTICCARDSFAN on Feb 1, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Peyton is the most awesome, Chane is really awesome, Zach Price isn't, and Russ.... is Russ.

But I did see him leaving the gym Tuesday night. small props.

And Rick is the sweetest. so loving. Oh Rick.

by GOCARDSATTITUDE on Feb 1, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Wow

My hearing impaired girlfriend reads lips fluently. We watched the video multiple times. Pitino definately said " Herb, don’t play high, ok’ .

by Cardfantom on Feb 1, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Well, this might also help to explain why Pitino was not that impressed with Gorgui's play that night,

easier to get yours when the man guarding you was tooting on the Hobokan Hooka before the game.

{Even if that guess is even close, give Gorg’s his props; unless he completely failed at some super secret Gorg Improvement Plan instituted in that week’s practice}

by Unseld2Beard on Feb 2, 2012 7:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Smokin' Herb Pope

on a side note, my gf once counted pitino dropping the f bomb 22 times in 1 game and that was only when the camera was on him. 7 times in a single timeout. Sometimes her hearing impairment is a good thing(did I just write that?)

by Cardfantom on Feb 2, 2012 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

She's not visually impaired is she?

I want to laugh but I refuse to. You better hope she doesn’t read this blog.

Mike should contract her out for CC to read lips. There is an art to reading the words that roll of Ricks lips.

by BingDieng on Feb 2, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

No

I am,lol. I used to tease her that if we had kids they would qualify for the Helen Keller school.

by Cardfantom on Feb 2, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Thick NE accents.... I have family from Jersey, none of whom have ever been on Jersey Shore, and there's no R in a lot of the words they speek...

HARD= HAAD
BEERS= BEEAS
CAR= CAA
Rick said, “You played haad, ok?” as in “you played hard, you understand?”
When you say the word hard you have to have to move your lips together to enunciate the R, when you pronounce it haad you don’t, just like when you say the word high.

Old grade school fun, but mouth the words “Alligator food” and it looks like you’re saying “I love you.” Do the same thing with the words “I wanna vacuum” and it looks like your saying……. well, just do it

Fool's names are like their faces, often seen in public places.

by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Feb 2, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Don't be afraid.

I typed ‘I want to vacuum’, deleted it. Typed it again. Deleted it. (thinking…..thinking…..thinking……‘Does he have a wife’……..ahhhhh shoot…..someone wants to vacuum)…..

by BingDieng on Feb 2, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, obviously we're wrong

After all, Chick has spoken. Let me say this though, she knows VERY little about bball, and tells me what Coach P says during timeouts(when the camera is on him). She isn’t just making this stuff up. Why do you think Pitino ignored everyone else in the handshake line until he got to Pope?

by Cardfantom on Feb 2, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

Don’t mean to be aggressive, or defensive. She watches Pitino alot I think she is familiar with his accent.

by Cardfantom on Feb 2, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

My stepdad was a native New Yorker, I grew up wondering why I never met the earl he kept putting in the car.

by Cardfantom on Feb 2, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Now

Im gonna have to go around saying I wanna vacuum..

"You are not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are all singing, all dancing crap of the world."

by rockchickpeg on Feb 2, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Just did "I wanna vacum"...

REC’D
Don’t need to look in the mirror.

GO! CARDS!
BEAT!
PURDUE!

by 4ul4life on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not hearing impaired, but I can read lips well enough to know

RP said “YOU played HARD, OK.” – as in, don’t let this performance get you down, bounce back over it.
Now I can see why Villan put the Pope Cameos in there several times. He thought RP was saying “don’t play high, ok”.
Definitely not “don’t”. He purses his lips (“you”). “hard” could be “high”, but it’s not. It’s clearly “Hard” because he’s not making a “H” sound at the completion. If he was saying don’t play high, I doubt he’d pat him on the chest, unless RP smokes the herb a lot…

GO! CARDS!
BEAT!
PURDUE!

by 4ul4life on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Adam Carolla says Valentines day for guys has become a roadside sobriety test.

You can only screw it up. Best case scenario is you drive off no better than you were before. I have to agree.

by TheStranger on Feb 1, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Glad you're impressed

I’ve been reading your “blog” for quite a while. i decided to sign up with SBnation just to share that info.

by Cardfantom on Feb 1, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

side note

I was looking at Alabamas recruiting for next year and they have 7 players committed with 5, 5 stars. They have offers with 61 of the top 150 players. After next years recruiting class how do we expect to compete if we go undefeated like we are all hoping for. I know I am looking to far ahead but damn how do we get players like that in here. I am proud to be a Cards fan. Proud of CCS. CCS has done a great job with this program, and I, along with every other die hard Cards fans has high hopes for the future.

by CARDS#1ALLDAY on Feb 1, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Pitino to Pope

I think he says “you played alright, ok?” or something like that. It just seems more likely that he would give him a compliment than assume he’s high and chastise him. Even though, anybody who’s ever been high knows, EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR HIGH~

by cardcorefan on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He had to shake Pitinos hand too...

Because he got high…

Now everyone’s youtubin you…
Because you were high….hey hey! because you were high..because you were high because you were high…nah nah nah nah nah nah..

Song has been stuck in my head since reading the Pitino/pope handshake thing lol.

by twistedwedge on Feb 2, 2012 11:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Twitter War with Andy Glocker?

He just fired a shot over the bow of the CSS CardChronicle. We have been warned…

I am going to go and stock up on Milk, Bread and Eggs for the impending doom he brings.

by Kegs N' Eggs on Feb 1, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I don’t understand how he can come to KY right away and have top recruiting classes. Sure he had some really good players at Memphis. And then he got caught. KY was not a top college program before he became there coach. So how does he get the best recruiting class 3 years in a row? I know he is known for 1 and dones. It just blows my mind and I am sick of it as well. There has been several cases were players were not following NCAA rules. I only think it is a matter of time.

by CARDS#1ALLDAY on Feb 2, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love to see a front page post on this very topic. Why?

And what can we do about it, if anything. I’ll bet that would be interesting .

by Carolina Cardinal on Feb 2, 2012 7:33 AM EST up reply actions  

By the way, "Don't play high, OK" is the greatest life advice of all-time

Whether he said it or not, I would buy that shirt with Pope’s face on it.

by Mike Rutherford on Feb 1, 2012 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

I once ran full-court (kinda) at Seneca Park while on acid.

I don’t know how it is now, but in my day there were some serious hoopers up there. I was sweating profusely despite the mild weather and didn’t take a single shot out of fear of missing the backboard completely and being dressed down/ridiculed by clearly superior players. Dock Ellis I am not.

by Peter McSheisty on Feb 2, 2012 3:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't remember his name and am to lazy to look it up

But the point guard for Nova in their @ Rupp upset over Georgetown (Nova shot something like 123.6%, ok really in the HIGH 70’s) admitted years later he was totally high during the game.

by cbcard on Feb 2, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I think

Herb asked Rick wtf he was wearing and Rick said "Yo Herb I’m high ok?

by midwestkids on Feb 2, 2012 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

As far as Wales goes.

If he’s as good a player as everyone says he is, then why would he go to WKU? An I out of touch with this generation? I thought you would want to come and prove that you were better than the other guy. I don’t know. No anomosity towards the kid but I wish they would embrace competition instead of running from it.

They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds.

by LvillefaninLex on Feb 2, 2012 1:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Some guys feel entitled

Wales is like DaMarcus Smith that way. They expected Louisville to cater to them and fawn over them and beg, I guess. Smith was upset when Charlie got Teddy. Wales was upset I guess over Charlie signing Radcliff. I say we dodged a head case bullet in both cases. Have fun at WKU and obscurity, boys. You missed the train.

by CardsRuleBE on Feb 2, 2012 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I know i seem like "that guy" now, but i was more impressed with Radcliff that Wales.

This might blow some people away, but I thought Ace wasn’t all that fast from looking at his video. Hopefully he does well at WKU and they can also beat up on UK.

ALL HAIL

by Cardinal_Pride on Feb 2, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

too small to be a 15-20 carry back

He’s even smaller than Vic and look at how often Vic was hurt. And that shoulder injury is Vic all over again.

by cbcard on Feb 2, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

ENTITLED

I heard a guy on ESPN radio talking about Kiel, the kid who was committed to IU, then LSU, and then enrolled at Notre Dame. He actually knew the family and the kid (worked with him at some clinic). Liked them all but said the reason he kept switching schools was that the kid and his family believed in entitlement. He wanted to go somewhere where he was promised the starting job. He didn’t want to have to work for it.

Call me old school but there is a lot of that in today’s kids, and not just in sports.

by cbcard on Feb 2, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Guys...

Do you not remember a couple of weeks ago he committed and said he wanted to be the face of UL? He didn’t flip. There was no space left for him. Waited too long.

by Jason G on Feb 2, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

We signed 23

We could have signed 25.

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Feb 2, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I know but they signed an RB since Wales was taking his sweet time.

So we didn’t need another RB with those last two spots. He would have had to greyshirt.

by Jason G on Feb 2, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

My impression, from Mike's story, is that it may not have been Wales choice in the end,

once he let them take another RB that spot was gone, and his interest was deemed insincere because he just waited too dang long!

by Unseld2Beard on Feb 2, 2012 7:44 AM EST up reply actions  

He didn't want to go to WKU.

But he waited too long and we gave another RB an offer. So he was out of luck.

by Jason G on Feb 2, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Everybody was thinking it.

Tell her you just thought she knew you were so in love with her, she knew you weren’t actually considering his Mom.

Mmmm. February.

by Justin Gingey Smith on Feb 2, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like

a cougar on campus.. Im like ooo hes hot and hes hot.. oh wait Im 31 and hes maybe allowed to buy a beer.. I feel so dirty

"You are not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are all singing, all dancing crap of the world."

by rockchickpeg on Feb 2, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

The straight dope on what Rick said to Herb:

“[You gotta keep your head up] b’cause you played hard, OK?

Don’t miss that “because.” Take it from a dude who grew up in Jersey, that’s exactly what he said.

by Sohl on Feb 2, 2012 8:48 AM EST reply actions  

The straight dope on what Rick said to Herb:

“[You gotta keep your head up] b’cause you played hard, OK?

Don’t miss that “because.” Take it from a dude who grew up in Jersey, that’s exactly what he said.

by Sohl on Feb 2, 2012 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

wtf

single people like valentines day??

"You are not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are all singing, all dancing crap of the world."

by rockchickpeg on Feb 2, 2012 10:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I feel animosity towards Wales

I just plain don’t give a shit. Would have been a great asset, but if you’re afraid of a little competition…

Happy trails, hope you break records.

by Justin Gingey Smith on Feb 2, 2012 9:07 AM EST reply actions  

He's not afraid of competition.

Just dumb apparently. He could have committed 5 months ago but waited until after we offered Radcliff. Whoops. Enjoy WKU.

by Jason G on Feb 2, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

The fact is

Louisville moved on and left him behind.

Whatever he says now is just spin.

by Jason G on Feb 2, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sayin'

If everyone just watched Water Boy more often, foosball players would know not to listen to their momma’s on such matters.

by guyngreen on Feb 2, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Regarding Hunter Bowles' mom...

I saw a nice pic of the whole family in the Glasgow Daily Times. They are a great looking family, and she is definitely smokin’ hot!!

by Jonesy on Feb 2, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

What Mike probably didn't realize when he wrote the Andy's TV post

is that Andy’s has been the sole repair technician for the Rutherford family television for the past, oh, dozen years or so. Louisville is indeed a very, very small town.

theoldman

by theoldman on Feb 2, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

Wait a sec...

The old man, as in Old Man Rutherford?

by Sohl on Feb 2, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ssshhhhhhhhhh, quiet. I don't think anyone's supposed to know.

Never seen it acknowledged by either but to the discerning reader it wasn’t hard to figure out. The Old Man also seems to have a journalism/writing background as well. Where do you think Mike got his chops?

by Peter McSheisty on Feb 2, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahhahaha

I was thinking “How does he know who repairs the rutherfords television?”

Minus one point for me.

by Jason G on Feb 2, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

This just blew my freaking mind.

I feel like my daughter when she realized her uncle was her dad’s big brother. what just happened?

by johnnyjoejohnson on Feb 2, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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