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Is There Really A Problem With 'Pitino-Speak'?

Anyone can argue any 1-point loss (such as UL's loss to Morehead) as being attributable to a number of reasons. Right or wrong, anyone can debate a failed shot block, a key player going down, missed free throws, etc, as 'the reason' for the loss. There's nothing wrong with having, stating, defending or debating such an opinion.

One can also argue that UL would have gone far in last year's Big Dance if Preston hadn't gotten hurt. This train of thought is also plausible and defensible given the context of last year's squad's consistent over-achievement and stunning comebacks.

These 2 snippets of conversation actually occurred with Coach Pitino. They had nothing to do with each other; they occurred at different times in different contexts. Each snippet stood on its own merits. Yet, a fan recently complained that this is Pitino being a hypocrite.

This touches one of my former professions related to communication, so after the jump comes a long post. I submit it in the humble hope it will light up a pathway for anyone interested to improve communication and listening skills. And not just with regard to Rick Pitino.

The above to me illustrates one of the problems digesting what [any coach or] Rick [or anyone else] says throughout a season [or throughout life].

There are times when statements should be kept in context of the topic at hand - and times not. Reporters and journalists aren't always savvy when to do so, let alone how to. Also, Rick isn't from the south. He unquestionably has a Yankee accent and speech habits. His communication style is more direct and blunt than a Kentuckian's. These small differences can lead to some misunderstanding, but there are many more factors at play.

Each year, from preseason to postseason, players and programs experience change. Health, morale, motivation, performance, execution, ability are all factors that change for each and every player. They change from season to season and from one game to the next. Consistency and stability are a luxury rarely given by Lady Luck to any program. This largely explains the rarity of (and time elapsed since) a perfect season such as the last by Indiana in 1976.

Considering there is also change-commotion at macro levels (i.e. conference and NCAA), this much is clear: Coaches must navigate an ever-shifting and unpredictable series of changes to even give their program a chance to succeed. It should be concluded that program success is based less on how well coaches plan life, and more on how well coaches overcome its obstacles.

Each year, from preseason to postseason, coaches execute hundreds of communication sessions in pre- post-game comments, interviews, shows and other engagements. That sounds like a lot of communicating, but it's not; not as a percentage of time they spend on the program.

If you could measure all time spent on team practice, game time, individual workouts, individual drills, tape review, staff meetings, staff planning, game planning, recruiting visits, getting a knee operated on, visiting Miss Hawaii, communications, and all other basketball program related activities, the percentage of time spent on communications-fans-see is probably ~2%. Yet we fans wish to, and try to, understand 100% of our program and its coach from the 2% of it spent communicating. That's not gonna work. There will always be gaps.

And what does it mean to communicate, anyway?

In my American military interrogator training I was taught techniques to induce people to talk and techniques to corroborate or refute what they said. Then I was taught a foreign language in which to perform interrogation. Much later came what I now believe was a pivotal piece of learning for me: an Israeli interrogation course. It focused on deviations of native languages such as colloquialisms, dialect, slang, paralinguil signs, etc., and how to analyze those for further information. It was a mix of (what is today referred to as) Discourse Analysis and Conversation Analysis, mixed with some additive criminal and detective science. Language deviations have been around since Adam spoke. Language deviations are not evil by nature, however they are pitfalls which often lead to misunderstanding. Even in sub groupings of people there is variance in how language deviations are used. In turn, that makes it all the more probable the [intended] message will be perceived in numerous ways.

Indeed, 2012 Darrell Griffith knows what a 'sick dunk' means, but 1979 Darrell Griffith would have either been confused or suspected that was an insult. If we were in Italy, see (Stripes reference), a 'sick dunk' never made any sense to players there. Nor have the Germans ever called anything awesome 'cool'. Think about it. We all do it. We say things that literally mean something else (i.e. idioms, sarcasm), yet we expect others to understand exactly what our true meaning is. I don't recall one yet, but I'm willing to wager Mike's reputation that there is at least one funny Cardinal story about a player saying something slang or sarcastic to Gorgui and getting some nonsensical-because-he-was-literal response. So there are those pitfalls, and don't even get me started on the impact of improper grammar.

Communications pitfalls challenge everyone: yourself, Pitino, Obama and even the Prophets. It is the root of why there are so many versions of The Bible. Communications pitfalls also greatly exacerbate the rhetoric and intensity of discourse in internet message forums.

Misinterpretation and misunderstanding increase in direct correlation to the frequency of communication, the diversity of the listeners, the amount of information, and the level and frequency of change to that information.

The point is that noone responsible for frequent communication (such as NCAAB coaches) to a lot of passionately interested people (such as fans) will avoid all the pitfalls of language deviations. There will always be misinterpretation and misunderstanding. There will always be some recipients getting the intended message, some an unintended message, and some simply confused. ADs know that, and that is why communication is [attempted to be] managed. Knowing how to communicate better does not guarantee you will successfully convey your message. Improvement can be had when one person makes effort, but it is improved the most when treated as a two-way street.

One commonly taught technique in civilian and business communication courses is to "repeat the message back in your own words", not unlike military cypher code recipients are taught specific methodologies for confirmation.
Sometimes you might think you understood the message correctly when you really didn't--and even the communicator isn't aware you didn't. However even as the listener, you can initiate such methods.. "Here's what I think you just told me...<say it back to them>; is that right?"

From another of my professions comes a more reconizable aconym: RTM. "Read The Manual." It's what some of us techies would often say to another when being asked a question about how some widget is supposed to work. It's a shorter way of saying "stop making noise (RTFM) and being confused, and go carefully re-read it and make sure you comprehend all that was written/said."

So we know we have an imperfect communicator and are ourselves imperfect listeners. Whatever truth there is that 'Rick spins' clearly will increase misunderstanding in addition to the above pitfalls--even if he does sometimes motivate a player while doing so.

Reading too much into comments or mistakenly putting the wrong puzzle pieces together wouldn't be a bad thing if it didn't escalate into rants, insults and over-the-top conclusions--but unfortunately it does. A lot. So much so that we're still having a flap about one comment when more 'controversial' comments are made. Herd instincts start taking effect, 'hate' increases and posses form, and some guy in the back throws rope over a tree branch.

What does this mean for Cardinal fans? We certainly won't get more communication time.

We can choose to continue wasting [too much] time chewing on 'spin' and hating. Or we can choose to redirect more of that negative energy on positive support of the students and staff for whom our fanhood exists to begin with. And inspiring others to do the same. I believe Cardinal fan life would be much better if we did.

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So, if I'm hearing you correctly, you seem to be saying

That everyone needs chill the F out. But seriously, your last paragraph sums up my thoughts exactly. And if I ever go for my master’s in communication, I’ve got a thesis paper already written.

by aaronulrich on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

Good post.

Jeff Goodman is trying to put his foot in his mouth, but Gorgui keeps blocking it.

by Cardwayoflife on Jan 25, 2012 4:09 AM EST reply actions  

Very good post.

I often wonder why people get so riled up when they hear a public figure say something contradictory or not 100% honest.

There’s a theory in psychology that may help explain our reactions to his seemingly contradictory statements: the fundamental attribution error. We tend to attribute other people’s actions to stable personality traits, while we allow our own actions to circumstances.

Why did pitino credit Morehead with the win in March, 2011, but now seem to say we lost because preston got hurt? Simple: Because he’s a hypocrite only looking to make himself look good.

Why did I defend Siva all season and then start talking about how he should be benched up until the last 10 minutes of the Pitt game? Because the situation changed. He started playing poorly, so i changed my mind.

Personally, I don’t know what we want from public figures. Like you said, they are asked to communicate so frequently. They are bound to piss someone off when they say anything. Thus, it makes sense to say “no comment” whenever possible. If we all could just take a step back and not jump to so many conclusions, maybe we’d get more actual information from public figures.

by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 25, 2012 7:57 AM EST reply actions  

Fantastic post, filled with actual information

backed up by facts and personal experience. Thank you Thank you Thank you for an excellent example of the “Old CC”

If we started treating public figures as human beings with all the complex emotions and motivations that go with that, instead of some sort of cardboard cutouts that are there for our entertainment only, we would all be living in a much, much better world.

by ptichenor1 on Jan 25, 2012 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

Although maybe not quite as entertaining...

That said, excellent post 97E3LPL.

I think several people have been trying to get that point across over the last couple of weeks, but noone has been able to say it so completely and well thought out.

by regis villebin on Jan 25, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Every time I tried to make this point, it just came out as a series of inarticulate aaacccks!, urrghs, and …BUts.. thpphhhbbbts…

Same thing happens when I listen to political discourse…

by ptichenor1 on Jan 25, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 25, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

thought so.

I should have titled my reply “I see what you did there.”

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 25, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy smokes, how did all that rambling make front page?

I am embarrassed that I apparently botched “after the jump” function. Isn’t that supposed to keep the reems of typing from showing up unless someone clicks “read the rest”?

by 97E3LPL on Jan 25, 2012 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

Excellent post and very well written

A nice change from some of the illiterate crap sometimes posted on here. That said, I’m afraid the very people that need to read it the most probably zoned out around the time they noticed there were no pictures.

by TNCardfan on Jan 25, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

hahahah

just like they didn’t read your subtext or this because it isn’t bolded.

by Justin Gingey Smith on Jan 25, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

don't you mean apostrophe's?

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 25, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't remember the "Old CC" some continue to wish for since I'm a...

newcomer to this site. Maybe this site isn’t meant for new folks. But your articulation was great, well thought, and very informative. Communication is such an issue in all areas of life beginning in the home. Good stuff!

by ruralvillefan on Jan 25, 2012 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

Meant no disrespect with Old CC

I’m hardly an old timer here (Oct 2009). I only meant to point out the stark difference between the sudden spat of posts that struggle to have something to say longer than 75 words, and those, like this post, that add real content.

Best part about this site is the welcoming of new opinions, and new snarky, booger humor. Most would agree though that calling out folks who just want to spread garbage without any real reflection is also valued here.

by ptichenor1 on Jan 25, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

booger humor

I’m johnnyjoejohnson, and I approve this message ….

by Leeroy Jenkins on Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought jjj's boogers were a serious matter.

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 25, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

As Niels Bohr once said

There are some things so serious you have to laugh at them. I try to take most things VERY seriously.

by ptichenor1 on Jan 25, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

If this site isn't open to new folks, then there's something wrong with us, not the new folks.

That said, one unwritten rule we seem to have is that fanposts require effort. If you can’t fill up 75 words, then you probably don’t have anything important to say. (not you specifically, I mean). IMO, the site has gotten a lot better in recent months due largely to an increase in participation by everyone. Some of that participation has been negative thoughts about UL, and I’ve called quite a few people assholes for it, but that’s my problem, not the site’s.

by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 25, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

What r u, sum kinda n00b?

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 26, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well put. I love this blog because of the mix of high and stupid low-brow humor that gets mixed around.

This falls in the high brow category. Not an easy thing to do when talking sports, so props to you!

I’m in grad school studying literature and teaching foreign language. In the more advanced courses I teach, I always try to work into my discussions some pointers about what is discourse, what roles comprise it, and how we manage those roles. I do so because it helps so much with understanding our own language as much as it does understanding others. These roles get exacerbated when one or more parties is operating in a non-native (i.e. foreign) language so ultimately this matter is never far from focus. As far as I am concerned your point about Gorgui HAS to be true.

Also, your point about reading the manual: love it. I usually have to teach my students how to use the dictionary, which for college students may seem ridiculous but its really not. It just highlights how little we (actively) think of words and assigned meanings. I mention it because I always have them verify the word they want to use (meaning the one they looked up) by taking it not just from English into Spanish/French, but also back again into English from the target language. Its always crazy (and sometimes hilarious) to see their faces when they are translating a word they thought would be straightforward but turns out not to be! It also makes me feel like I have done my job because they are just that much more aware of what they are trying to say.

by Btowncard on Jan 25, 2012 9:35 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Your last paragraph says it all.

Your other paragraphs say a lot but your last one says everything. Thank you. Go Cards.

by bythesidewalk on Jan 25, 2012 9:51 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Nice post.

I saw the comment of the reader 97E3LPL was referring to. I wanted to say something, but ’don’t wont no probbems’ (spelled that wrong on purpose).

I think you have to give credit to MSU. They played well enough to beat us. What was Rick supposed to say? Realizing that our best player was on the bench, the one guy who held the team together is out. It wasn’t the buckets he could’ve made that we missed, it was his presence on the court. The general was missing and so was the team. So for Rick to ALSO acknowledge that we loss because of the injury to Preston isn’t a huge deal. How someone can break that comment down and declare him a liar and its only ‘Pitino-Speak’ is beyond me.

by BingDieng on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

No disrespect to the OPs well-thought-out post

but I don’t think comments about the MSU game are the type of things that CRP detractors take exception to.

It’s more like the “I’m retiring in 2017” or “Louisville shouldn’t go to the Big 12” or “your schedule dictates when you lose” when you lose to the worst team in the conference by 30.

At a certain point you just want straight talk. He’s not obligated to give that to us, but we aren’t obligated to like it either. Personally, this is one of the reasons I love coach strong. No bs, no cliches, no hyperbole.

by Jason G on Jan 25, 2012 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

Yep

I have gotten to the point that I feel he is always playing me. It makes it hard to pay attention to the good things he says.

by cbcard on Jan 25, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't really find anything wrong with those statements you quoted.

When he said he was retiring, he stated that his contract runs out in 2017, so that’s when he’s retiring. It was said partially in Rick sarcasm (which means the media, and a small percentage of the fanbase, was too stupid to get it), but I don’t really see what the big deal is. How many times has he mentioned retiring? I mean, its been at least a couple times every season since I can remember. How is this any different?

As far as Louisville shouldn’t go to the Big 12, as far as basketball is concerned, I tend to agree. With this year being an exception (Baylor and Missouri are never this good, and Missouri’s leaving), the Big 12 is usually Kansas and everybody else. Once every 10 years Oklahoma and Texas pretend they’re contenders. Kansas St. and Oklahoma state get hype but never produce. Even the Big East after Syracuse, UConn and WVU depart is still better than that.

As far as all Louisville sports is concerned, the Big 12 would be better. But Pitino doesn’t decide for all Louisville sports, he only is concerned with basketball, as he should be. Pitino won’t be the deciding factor in where Louisville sports reside, Tom Jurich will, and if you doubt him, you need to get on the damn train.

And, honestly, for a lot of teams, the schedule DOES determine when you lose. How well you and your opponent are playing makes a difference as well, but I think that the Providence game was a culmination of things that resulted in the lopsided loss. At Yum!, or even 1-2 week earlier or later in the season, I think the Cards go in there and win by 10-15.

People take what he says out of context way too often, which a lot of the blame for should be handed to the media. They take a single sentence quote out of 5-10 minutes of discussion, and you have no way to know what he meant when he said it.

by regis villebin on Jan 25, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

If you listen to the whole retiring in 2017 thing it was blown way out of proportion.

To say it was ‘Pitnio-speak’ says….‘well I read a quote from CBS Sports and didn’t listen to the actual press conference.’

by BingDieng on Jan 25, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not including Strong in this comment.

But, one thing that the republican party has done brilliantly in recent years is that they disguise their political talk as “straight talk.”

Didn’t strong come out and say the last game of the season as “just another game” while his staff was plastering “championship atmosphere” everywhere? Didn’t we all (me included) think that was awesome? Wasn’t he manipulating the media and being dishonest when he did that?

by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 25, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

If you actually bother to seriously listen to what coaches have to say in press conferences, and take what they say for granted, you deserve to be as confused and pissed off as you are.

They are soundbites, taken out of context, and other than minor tidbits of information (who we play next, who’s injured, etc), there’s generally nothing worthwhile coming out of them.

by regis villebin on Jan 25, 2012 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

+1

Totally agree 100,000,000,000,000.99%

by BingDieng on Jan 25, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

First off regis...

Why shouldn’t fans seriously listen to what coaches say in press conferences? The vast majority of fans aren’t insiders, so hearing a coach speak about their team is one of the few windows a fan has to see what is going on inside the program. With Pitino, fans feel robbed of that because of the constant hyperbole. It isn’t difficult to be straightforward with fans. Pitino doesn’t suffer from any of the “communication pitfalls” cited in the OP’s post. He simply loves the media attention he gets from making ludicrous statements.

The way Charlie Strong conducts himself in press conferences refutes practically everything you and the OP have said. He has no need for sarcasm or hyperbole, nor does he fall victim to the difficulties of communicating, which Pitino seems to be plagued by. He is refreshingly straightforward and because of this, fans feel like they actually have an idea as to what is going on with the team. This is only one of the many reasons why he is such a great representation of the program.

Regarding your second post, it is hard to take “He’s the best high school shooter I’ve ever seen” or “He’s the next Jamal Mashburn” out of context. I think a lot of fans are to the point where if Pitino can’t give fans any real information, then he should just shut up and coach.

by 801Card on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Pitino's mouth was a known factor when he was hired.

It’s part of the package, and it has its upside. We may not like everything he says, but the media loves it. Keeping our name out there on ESPN builds “brand awareness” and imparts a cachet of relevance.

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 25, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

If you don’t like what he has to say when he’s asked questions, don’t listen. It won’t ruin your life either way.

Getting all worked up over what Rick Pitino says on TV is really not that important.

As long as the players are working hard to get better, developing as players and as people, there aren’t any NCAA infractions, and the team wins more games than it loses, then I’m happy.

by regis villebin on Jan 25, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Remember the Beef Bowl!

by HorsePig55 on Jan 25, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok

I agree with some of his comments being a little ill-thought out (the two you quoted included). But so what? Its not like the world lives and dies by what he says to the media and fans.

While I do think Pitino used to like all the media attention that he got, after the Sypher fiasco, I don’t think that’s true anymore. I think he throws out little tidbits every now and then to get them riled up (he can’t help but do it with Calipari down the road tweaking the media every chance he gets). The thing is, he doesn’t really say much differently than most other coaches do, but because he’s Rick Pitino, people seem to take what he says in a different context.

As far as Charlie Strong goes, he HAS made his own flubs as far as press conferences (or lack thereof) go. If anyone remembers, his entire response to the whole Miami/Clint Hurtt situation was to ignore it completely, when all it would have taken was a simple comment that they can’t say anything with an ongoing NCAA investigation, rather than not saying ANYTHING, and letting fan speculation run rampant for weeks.

I LOVE Charlies Strong, don’t get me wrong, but he doesn’t get nearly the face time on camera that Pitino has, and has not had to deal with the intense media pressures yet so far in his career. Besides, he’s a completely different kind of person than Pitino is, and to compare them is like comparing apples and oranges.

by regis villebin on Jan 25, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

then he should just shut up ?

Thanks 801! I see what you did there; you were contributing more examples of communications pitfalls.

Clearly CRP can , and does give some information, so you must have meant “can’t give fans any real information” as an example of hyperbole and exaggeration. It is one of many pitfalls of communication in that it’s clearly false and makes the listener more prone to ignore the rest of the sentence. Poignantly to my point, hyperbole and exaggeration can cause people to focus on the wrong part of a message you meant to convey. Especially the idiom “shut up”, which you really meant neither literally nor figuratively since obviously no coach could ever cease speaking and do their job.

Pitino doesn’t suffer from any of the "communication pitfalls" cited in the OP’s post. He simply loves the media attention he gets

I can easily give you a list of the specific pitfalls cited in my post which are applicable to Pitino, so you must have meant that as an example of misdirection. Misdirection is more of a a communication device than deviation. I’m unsure why you provided this example. Perhaps you didn’t digest some of the finer points in the post.

Let me clarify (point out, actually) that I made no claims about HCCMFS, nor comparison of him to CRP. That’s really not the point. That’s a great example of “repeating back the message” to confirm whether you received the right information.
My post does not say certain speakers ‘need’ such pitfalls, so I suppose you might used that word as an example of misquoting.

I also enjoy listening to CS much more than CRP, and I agree with you his communication style is much more effective.

Anyway, thanks again for adding to the post. Demonstrating the value in RTFM may help others in future communications!

by 97E3LPL on Jan 25, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

My point in all of this

was simply that communicating with fans does not have to be difficult. Fans should not need to decipher messages from a coach. I gave CCS as an example because he does an excellent job communicating, despite being far less experienced than Pitino.

I also feel like many of his statements are just plain harmful, to both the program and the players. Speaking about retirement, putting down players, placing unrealistic expectations upon players, etc. Statements like that aren’t helpful to anyone and only add to the frustration we’ve already been feeling for the last few years.

Finally…

My post does not say certain speakers ‘need’ such pitfalls, so I suppose you might used that word as an example of misquoting.

I never said that your post mentions this. I did say that CCS doesn’t “need” hyperbole and sarcasm, and that his press conferences are strangely unaffected by several pitfalls of communication which plague Pitino.

You should avoid the veiled insults in your response. You are clearly knowledgeable on this subject and I was just offering an opposing viewpoint and an explanation. I meant no disrespect to you, as I can assure you that you are much more experienced in communication studies than I am. Again, just offering a different point of view.

by 801Card on Jan 25, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think a lot of people

take Pitino’s criticisms as harsher than they should be. When he says a player isn’t playing well, or isn’t playing to his potential, then that’s all it means. He’s calling someone out in public, because apparently calling them out in practice isn’t getting the results he needs.

It isn’t up to us fans to decide whether or not that calling out was deserved, because we don’t see the players every day like the coaches do.

I do think that he’s made mistakes, and said things he probably wishes he hadn’t, but to judge a man overall by the few snippets the media passes along is awful harsh.

I understand a lot of people are going to dislike Pitino, for various reasons, and I don’t necessarily disagree with some of them. Many of the reasons are valid, many of them aren’t.

But the end, he’s Coach. He runs this team, he determines how things go, and at the end of the day, getting his players ready to play and competing on the court are more important than making sure he says the right things to sooth the fans ego’s.

by regis villebin on Jan 25, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I took no disrespect and meant no insult

In fact, I thought I took adequate time to avoid insult. However, nowadays they say “if it’s perceived, it is”, so I suppose I’m guilty regardless of intent and I apologize.

I agree with most of your correction above. It shouldn’t be the way it is. But it is. Like the rest of life, some things aren’t the way they should be. Some things can’t be fixed, so you take the bad with the good and move on as best you can.

by 97E3LPL on Jan 25, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Loved reading this...

That was great, well thought out and interesting. You conveyed your point exactly and I think it can really teach us (fans) something. Sometimes we over analyze things and put it the way we want to take and not how it is actually meant to be received. Really eye-opening, good job.

by Aaron Little on Jan 25, 2012 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think I personally would've reacted to his flip-flopping the way I did had it not been for the recent frustrations toward him in other areas

Normally, I don’t take anything he says seriously. But lately, the gloves have come off to a certain degree for me and seems like a lot of things he does or says irritate me these days. I guess 11 years is a long time to listen to Pitino-Speak while the results on the court often seem to contrast (putting it nicely) a lot of what he says.

I normally enjoy listening to the press conferences and getting further insight on the team. But lately, I’ve been staying away from it all and just focusing on the games. This is definitely a strange season for me. I’ve had angry thoughts and frustrated emotions toward Rick I never thought I would have. All in all, I guess the main thing to keep in mind is it’s a game and is ultimately entertainment. It isn’t life and death. Being an avid fan, sometimes it’s easy to confuse things.

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by LORD KAYOSS on Jan 25, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

In the short version,

CRP can be defended by simply noting that perspective changes with time.

Then he had one element at the forefront of his thoughts and evaluations, later he remembers it in a different way with something else being the most consequential element. It causes his speech to fit the definition of hypocrisy even if his intentions did not.

by Unseld2Beard on Jan 25, 2012 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

It can also be defended as his trying to be a good sport at the time.

Rather than saying “smh I can’t believe we lost to dem bums,” he gave credit to Morehead. In his heart of hearts, he knew that if we had hit more free throws or Preston hadn’t gone down or any of a number of other factors had changed, we would likely have won the game; but he didn’t want to detract from Morehead’s 15 minutes of fame. Of course, if you start from the notion that Pitino is evil, that possibility doesn’t come to mind, because you won’t credit Evil Pitino with such kindness.

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 26, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I finally read this whole post

and I agree with those above who said it’s very well written. Kudos to you, 97E3LPL (can I call you 97 for short?)

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

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Neutral Zone's Memorial Day Sale
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2012-13 Schedule
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Defining Moments of a Fanhood; The Vote-Off
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Francisco Garcia Wallpaper/Illustration
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The Lady Cards nine...
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Louisville should take note of new SEC-Big 12 bowl
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Michael Bush Illustration/Wallpaper (typo fixed)

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