Team Diet|BMI: Possible Root of Injuries...
We'll make this short and sweet...
As everyone has been debating the possible cause of injuries to Pitino's teams over the past 10 years, no one has made mention of or questioned the team diet. My understanding is this...Pitino is a low-fat, lean muscle advocate. The problem with such a diet is that a lack of fat will cause a lack of joint nourishment. Fat and water are what keep joints lubricated...but it is fat that gives them their strength. Now, my post is entirely theoretical, as I do not know what the team nutritionist has our guys eating (aside from Chane's penchant for cake). But from sound bites here and there over the years, my understanding is that fat is not ideal in the Pitino system or at the team table. Additionally, % body fat (do a quick google search and see how many times Pitino's name is mentioned with 'percent body fat') is an integral part of his conditioning...which only further adds insult to injury in regards to joint health when one is deprived of normal working body fat. So to conclude...from a nutrition standpoint, if one is neither consuming enough fat regularly nor is maintaining a healthy BMI with enough spare body fat, this becomes a recipe for disaster in terms of injuries to fascia and joints. Fat is what protects our bodies--especially the joints--from injury. Take that away and injuries become inevitable.
It would be interesting to find out what the team diet entails and whether this is, in fact, at the root of our string of inexplicable team injuries. I welcome any discourse on the subject and any information to help draw a more sound conclusion. Go Cards!
--Doc
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I can only conclude from reading this...
that my joints are very well lubricated.
by clayh2525 on Jan 19, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I would certainly hope the team nutritionists take this sort of thing into consideration.
But who knows
I bleed red and black. I poop blue.
possibly same group of trainers and nutritionists...
or are using the same techniques across the board for both men’s and women’s teams. i don’t believe in coincidences.
Is there any empircal evidence for this?
I mean, that people are more like to tear an ACL for example if they have lower body fat.
I’m a broken record. But, these are empirical questions, and all we’ve gotten from everyone is opinions….
by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 19, 2012 5:43 PM EST reply actions
Man, those data are a mess
A few thoughts:
1) the data are mixed, and no one knows one way or the other.
2) Aerobic fitness seems to be a protective factor in games
3) High BMI is a risk factor
4) Coming back from injury too soon is bad, but no evidence of it meaning you injure something else instead
5) People get hurt in games more than practice
The only thing working against pitino is that if he makes practices more like games than practice, it might increase risk of getting hurt. But, his players are in better shape, which should protect against injury. After reading this, I’m more convinced than ever that no one has any idea what he/she is talking about.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 20, 2012 7:41 AM EST up reply actions
I decided to check the player bios for most of the team, to see what I could find.
Kuric
Foods: quesadillas, steak, chicken
Midnight Snack: M&M minis
Chris Smith
Foods: seafood, fried chicken
Midnight Snack: orange cupcakes
Swop
Foods: tacos
Midnight Snack: peanut butter and jelly sandwich
Rak
Foods: cornbread
Midnight Snack: snickers
Mike Marra
Foods: lobster, prime rib
Midnight Snack: sandwich
Siva
Foods: mac and cheese, hamburger helper
Midnight Snack: Jack in the Box
Van Treese
Foods: pizza, steak, his mother’s chili
Midnight Snack: ice cream, Taco Bell
Gorgui
Foods: wings, lasagna, steak
Midnight Snack: not listed
Hendo
Foods: Mexican
Midnight Snack: Mexican
Bullet
Foods: steak
Midnight Snack: pop tarts
Russ Smith
Foods: Qdoba
Midnight Snack: cookies
Chane
Foods: pizza
Midnight Snack: cookies and milk
Angel Nunez
Foods: arroz abichuela y carne
(Dominican meal of rice, beans and meat)
Midnight Snack: soft baked cookies
Zach Price
Foods: seafood
Midnight Snack: honey buns
Fat Wayne
Foods: deep-fried Oreos, chips and queso, hamburgers, pork cracklings, pizza, Mexican, seafood, Blizzards, donuts, cheese, pizza, McDonalds, bacon, lobster bisque, potato chips, buffalo chicken wings, pizza
Midnight Snack: pizza
And what did I learn from this endeavor? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Except that I feel sorry for whoever rooms with Hendo.
by CardinalFanaticus on Jan 19, 2012 6:02 PM EST reply actions
They need to update these profiles
I hear Hendo’s favorite midnight snack is currently raw Hawaiin fare.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 19, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
FAT WAYNE
The Fat Wayne diet IS PRICLESSSSSS!!!!
Hendo, well its the most action he will see anyway!
Informative study on lower extremity injury and certain risk factors...
“Jones et all found low and high BMI and high body fat content for men, and shorter height for women to be risk factors for sustaining lower extremity injury among military recruits. Men in the lowest and highest quartiles for BMI had a threefold increase in the incidence of all lower extremity injuries compared with the middle 50% of male recruits.”
looks like on either end of the BMI that injures are highest...
meaning that very high and very low BMI’s are the most vulnerable to injuries. food for thought.
Even at low body fat, UL players don't have low BMI
For example, according to BMI, if Wayne weighed 220 and is 6’4, his BMI would be 26.8, which is considered OVERWEIGHT. He’d be right in the middle 50%.
I don’t envy sports medicine researchers. Either they suck at what they do, or its really hard to tease these things apart.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 20, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions
Just because Pitino wants a low body fat %
doesn’t mean the guys don’t eat LOTS of fat in their diets. Fat (as joint lubrication) is a short term storage application of fat.
It’s an interesting thought, but I’d say the team diets are just fine.
by Remote Cardinal on Jan 20, 2012 1:35 AM EST reply actions
even if they are eating lots of fat, due to their low body fat % sanctioned by the team...
they may be unnaturally predisposed to injury (something diet can’t readily offset). so…it may be diet or it may be conditioning with an unhealthy low body fat %…or both. my guess would be on the stringent % body fat requirements by pitino. time will tell.
Are you a doctor?
I’m assuming as a doctor, you know the difference between BMI and body fat.
And, I really don’t mean to be a jerk here, but the paper you cite doesn’t address or support your post. Man, I feel like I’m really being a jerk, but its true.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 20, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Chocolate cake and grape fruit juice for all!
That’s nutrition…………
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