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Team Diet|BMI: Possible Root of Injuries...

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As everyone has been debating the possible cause of injuries to Pitino's teams over the past 10 years, no one has made mention of or questioned the team diet. My understanding is this...Pitino is a low-fat, lean muscle advocate. The problem with such a diet is that a lack of fat will cause a lack of joint nourishment. Fat and water are what keep joints lubricated...but it is fat that gives them their strength. Now, my post is entirely theoretical, as I do not know what the team nutritionist has our guys eating (aside from Chane's penchant for cake). But from sound bites here and there over the years, my understanding is that fat is not ideal in the Pitino system or at the team table. Additionally, % body fat (do a quick google search and see how many times Pitino's name is mentioned with 'percent body fat') is an integral part of his conditioning...which only further adds insult to injury in regards to joint health when one is deprived of normal working body fat. So to conclude...from a nutrition standpoint, if one is neither consuming enough fat regularly nor is maintaining a healthy BMI with enough spare body fat, this becomes a recipe for disaster in terms of injuries to fascia and joints. Fat is what protects our bodies--especially the joints--from injury. Take that away and injuries become inevitable.

It would be interesting to find out what the team diet entails and whether this is, in fact, at the root of our string of inexplicable team injuries. I welcome any discourse on the subject and any information to help draw a more sound conclusion. Go Cards!

--Doc

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u and me too brother. lol

by east ky card on Jan 20, 2012 4:12 AM EST up reply actions  

It's in the water

The women’s team has been killed by major injuries, too

DocCardsFan
Groton, CT

by DocCardsFan on Jan 19, 2012 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

possibly same group of trainers and nutritionists...

or are using the same techniques across the board for both men’s and women’s teams. i don’t believe in coincidences.

by fielddog on Jan 20, 2012 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Is there any empircal evidence for this?

I mean, that people are more like to tear an ACL for example if they have lower body fat.

I’m a broken record. But, these are empirical questions, and all we’ve gotten from everyone is opinions….

by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 19, 2012 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Man, those data are a mess

A few thoughts:
1) the data are mixed, and no one knows one way or the other.
2) Aerobic fitness seems to be a protective factor in games
3) High BMI is a risk factor
4) Coming back from injury too soon is bad, but no evidence of it meaning you injure something else instead
5) People get hurt in games more than practice

The only thing working against pitino is that if he makes practices more like games than practice, it might increase risk of getting hurt. But, his players are in better shape, which should protect against injury. After reading this, I’m more convinced than ever that no one has any idea what he/she is talking about.

by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 20, 2012 7:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I decided to check the player bios for most of the team, to see what I could find.

Kuric
Foods: quesadillas, steak, chicken
Midnight Snack: M&M minis

Chris Smith
Foods: seafood, fried chicken
Midnight Snack: orange cupcakes

Swop
Foods: tacos
Midnight Snack: peanut butter and jelly sandwich

Rak
Foods: cornbread
Midnight Snack: snickers

Mike Marra
Foods: lobster, prime rib
Midnight Snack: sandwich

Siva
Foods: mac and cheese, hamburger helper
Midnight Snack: Jack in the Box

Van Treese
Foods: pizza, steak, his mother’s chili
Midnight Snack: ice cream, Taco Bell

Gorgui
Foods: wings, lasagna, steak
Midnight Snack: not listed

Hendo
Foods: Mexican
Midnight Snack: Mexican

Bullet
Foods: steak
Midnight Snack: pop tarts

Russ Smith
Foods: Qdoba
Midnight Snack: cookies

Chane
Foods: pizza
Midnight Snack: cookies and milk

Angel Nunez
Foods: arroz abichuela y carne
(Dominican meal of rice, beans and meat)
Midnight Snack: soft baked cookies

Zach Price
Foods: seafood
Midnight Snack: honey buns

Fat Wayne
Foods: deep-fried Oreos, chips and queso, hamburgers, pork cracklings, pizza, Mexican, seafood, Blizzards, donuts, cheese, pizza, McDonalds, bacon, lobster bisque, potato chips, buffalo chicken wings, pizza
Midnight Snack: pizza

And what did I learn from this endeavor? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Except that I feel sorry for whoever rooms with Hendo.

by CardinalFanaticus on Jan 19, 2012 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

Boom

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 22, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

FAT WAYNE

The Fat Wayne diet IS PRICLESSSSSS!!!!
Hendo, well its the most action he will see anyway!

by CountryCard on Jan 19, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

Informative study on lower extremity injury and certain risk factors...

“Jones et all found low and high BMI and high body fat content for men, and shorter height for women to be risk factors for sustaining lower extremity injury among military recruits. Men in the lowest and highest quartiles for BMI had a threefold increase in the incidence of all lower extremity injuries compared with the middle 50% of male recruits.”

by fielddog on Jan 19, 2012 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

looks like on either end of the BMI that injures are highest...

meaning that very high and very low BMI’s are the most vulnerable to injuries. food for thought.

by fielddog on Jan 20, 2012 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Even at low body fat, UL players don't have low BMI

For example, according to BMI, if Wayne weighed 220 and is 6’4, his BMI would be 26.8, which is considered OVERWEIGHT. He’d be right in the middle 50%.

I don’t envy sports medicine researchers. Either they suck at what they do, or its really hard to tease these things apart.

by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 20, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Just because Pitino wants a low body fat %

doesn’t mean the guys don’t eat LOTS of fat in their diets. Fat (as joint lubrication) is a short term storage application of fat.

It’s an interesting thought, but I’d say the team diets are just fine.

by Remote Cardinal on Jan 20, 2012 1:35 AM EST reply actions  

even if they are eating lots of fat, due to their low body fat % sanctioned by the team...

they may be unnaturally predisposed to injury (something diet can’t readily offset). so…it may be diet or it may be conditioning with an unhealthy low body fat %…or both. my guess would be on the stringent % body fat requirements by pitino. time will tell.

by fielddog on Jan 20, 2012 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you a doctor?

I’m assuming as a doctor, you know the difference between BMI and body fat.

And, I really don’t mean to be a jerk here, but the paper you cite doesn’t address or support your post. Man, I feel like I’m really being a jerk, but its true.

by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 20, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Chocolate cake and grape fruit juice for all!

That’s nutrition…………

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by LORD KAYOSS on Jan 20, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

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