An Extensive Look At Rick Pitino's Defensive System
This post is in response to a lot of fans on this site who have asked two or more of the following questions:
- What is Pitino's "System"?
- What about Pitino's "System" is so complex?
- Why does Pitino say that defense is the problem this year?
- Why does everyone say that freshman struggle with Pitino's "system"?
- Why can't Pitino just dumb his system down a little bit?
- Why does chocolate covered fruit taste so damn good?
First, a disclaimer. I am, by no means, an expert of the X's and O's of basketball. I am just like most of you, a fan of college basketball and a supporter of Louisville Cardinal athletics. Now, what I'm about to go into is very likely me on my assent of Mount Stupid, but I'm going to go ahead and post anyway.
This post will not contain animated gifs of pressing defenses, nor a detailed history of basketball defenses. I'm simply going to discuss how Rick Pitino's defenses have changed over the years and in doing so, perhaps give some of you some insight into the answers to the questions above. So here we go.
At UK, Rick Pitino started his career by instituting a 1-2-1-1 zone press and paired it with a high tempo offense relying heavily on the 3-point shot. This full-court press works by having each defender guard a specific area of the court and not worrying about how many men were in it. It was all about denying the ball to enter your zone. It wasn't particularly unique to Pitino, but Pitino taught his players to go all-out for steals and pretty much not worry about it if you got beat.
Zone presses are easily beaten when your team knows they are coming and has practiced specific press-breaking movements. These press-breaks take advantage of knowing how a defender will move in his zone based on the ball movement, then dribbling or moving the ball through the press knowing where the holes should be. Pitino's early zone press was different enough with players going all-out for the steal in that they didn't respond the way traditional zone presses did, so they got a lot of steals. Coaches would try to execute traditional zone press breaks and would turn the ball over because Pitino's press didn't react the same way a normal zone-press would.
Over the years, Pitino's zone press was figured out with specific press-breaks designed for it. This came after a lot of other teams started adopting his version, most notably the early 90's Arkansas teams under Nolan Richardson. Pitino was one step ahead of the curve though, in that he alone pretty much pioneered the "match-up" press. This press was very different than all the other zone full-court presses in that it was all about ball-pressure. The goal was to keep pressure on the ball and match-up man-to-man on the inbounds, but then execute double-teams depending on two things: ball location and your man's location.
The most famous of these double teams is known as the "Cut and Double" where the ball defender forces his man to speed up the dribble and to the sideline. Once the ball-handler crosses mid-court, another defender, who has stayed even with the ball and in the shadow of the primary defender during the dribble up, cuts over and double-teams the ball-handler providing effectively 4 defenders (2 players, mid-line and side line). You see this move performed regularly by nearly every pressing team and coaches and fans alike hate their PG when they fall into this now classic trap. Today, there are press-breaks designed to make it specifically look like the dribbler is going to fall into this trap, but actually break the trap. There are defensive sets that fake this trap only to force a different trapping scenario. The "Cut and Double" is an absolute classic and Pitino pioneered it.
Pitino pioneered several other now "classic" traps into this match-up press and it is the basis of the press that Louisville (and many other teams) runs today. I have noticed two particular traps that are pretty unique to Louisville; one of which the SF does a variation of a "Run and Jump" trap but cuts into a likely passing lane for a steal. I'll guarantee that move alone accounts for at least 100 steals in Pitino's Louisville tenure and for more than 10 dunks by T-will alone. Nobody else, other than a recent Pitino disciple that is now a head coach, does it in this unique way. It requires a quick athlete and good timing and if it fails, it usually ends up in an open 3-point shot or layup for the other team. It's risky, but Louisville has done well with it. I know UofL is way ahead in the points for/against by teaching and executing this move.
The match-up press is definitely more complicated than a zone press in that you aren't just responsible for an area of the court, but you must know where your man is and where the ball is, and then act accordingly. There are a lot of decisions to make individually and a mistake will absolutely do one of two things: 1. Your man is wide-open or 2. You allow the ball-handler to beat his defender on the dribble and now you have an undefended player speed-dribbling toward the basket. Neither typically turn out very well as you might imagine. If you don't understand the system or make slow or bad decisions, you will cause baskets for the other team. Unlike a traditional 2-3 zone, most HS coaches choose not to implement a match-up press because they do not have enough quality athletes to run it effectively, nor is the risk/reward trade-off beneficial with the amount of mistakes that HS players make.
Most recently, in the last 2-3 years, Pitino has developed a match-up zone defense in the half-court that many of you are familiar with. The D starts off in a 2-3 zone, but has certain triggers that cause it to switch to man-to-man. One of the easiest ways to trigger the switch is passing the ball into the low-post area that causes one of the edges of the bottom of the 2-3 to collapse. In this case, bottom middle of the 2-3 (usually the center) calls the switch and the defense marks everyone but the guy standing in the shadow of the double team straight up. This instantly makes the traditional zone beating offensive scheme less effective and you typically have a big man trying to pass out of a double team to people that are being guarded man-to-man. If each defender doesn’t select the correct man to switch to, most notably the side of the zone that is opposite of the double team, it will result in an either an easy basket (if the top of the zone makes the error) or a wide open three (if the bottom of the zone makes the error) for the other team. Early this season, Chane was offender #1 for allowing open threes by opposing teams for not picking up the right man during this switch. College of Charleston used the same play at least 5 times to get open looks from three, taking advantage of the bad switching by our SF and PF spots in this zone. Pitino moving Kuric to the PF spot is often credited as being the difference maker in that game offensively, but it also had a big impact on the defensive end as well.
The most important player in this match-up zone defense scheme is easily the Center. The Center communicates the switch and the players are supposed to wait for the call to make the switch. When Gorgui isn’t in the game, we aren’t very good at communicating or timing the switch. In fact, I’ve seen us blow a defensive set when everyone switched to man-to-man BUT Buckles, leading to a dunk for the other team. To put it bluntly, Buckles wasn’t good at the center spot in this defense. Price doesn’t have the experience yet to run this defense. This is why Pitino is saying that defense is the problem. So, in recent games, starting with Notre Dame, we quit running the match-up zone when Gorgui was on the bench. (Check the timing of this change with the first "defense is the problem" statement if you want your mind to be blown.) This is why ND’s burn offense hurt us so badly. This is (one of technical on-the-court reasons) why Providence lit us up from outside. Our defense loses its teeth when we don’t execute and becomes a basic 2-3, which we aren’t as skilled at as other teams. Teams who can’t get a quality shot against our match-up zone can often get a quality shot against our 2-3. This is also why Pitino continues to say that Gorgui is our most important player and he wants 35+ minutes out of him. (Interesting Gorgui side note with respect to that recent Gorgui block +/- analysis…Gorgui is supposed to call for a switch to man-to-man when there is lane penetration that he’s going to help defend. Most of the time when he calls for that switch and blocks the shot, we secure the block and when he doesn’t, we do not secure the block. Just like how it’s easier to rebound defensively in man-to-man D versus a zone D, so it goes with securing a blocked shot. So even Gorgui is still learning and growing in this defense.)
So, a quick review of those questions, also a TLDR; version of the above:
- What is Pitino's "System"?
Simply, Rick Pitino’s system is a defense driven system in which a full-court match up press is utilized in conjunction with an unique match-up zone defense designed to confuse the opposing team’s offense via switching, control tempo and disrupt flow via steals and deflections.
- What about Pitino's "System" is so complex?
Pitino’s system is complex in the respect that it requires repetition in practice to understand. The match-up press and match-up zone depend on players making timely correct decisions in response to the opposition. Correct execution doesn’t always result in a turnover (even though it significantly increases it), but poor execution often leads to open shots for the other team.
- Why does Pitino say that defense is the problem this year?
Because he noticed that against some of our more "quality" competition, and with Gorgui on the bench, we struggled with the timing and communication of switches in our half-court defense. Our half-court defense was getting beat in the match-up zone because of execution errors, not fundamental flaws in the scheme. When we switched to other traditional half-court sets, teams beat us with skill because our team isn’t as skilled at a traditional 2-3 zone.
- Why does everyone say that freshman struggle with Pitino's "system"?
Because most often, they do struggle on the intake of the defense. The superior athletic ability of our freshmen compared to our competition covers a lot of their mistakes early on, but when it gets to the meat of the season and athletic ability is even or possibly at a disadvantage at times, only proper execution will suffice. Injuries and limited practice time with players experienced in the system compound the problem of a steeper learning curve.
- Why can't Pitino just dumb his system down a little bit?
Actually, he has this season. And things got worse when he did. With our offensive woes this season, we are a (with the exception of Russ) a completely defense-driven team. It has not and will not benefit us to change our defensive style. Traditionally it has worked out better for Pitino to take his lumps in January in order to be successful in February.
- Why does dark chocolate covered fruit taste so damn good?
I think it’s the combination of the bitter elements of the chocolate and the sweetness of the fruit together all compounded behind the endorphin releasing smell and guilt-shedding excuse of eating healthy anti-oxidants. It’s altogether just a pleasant physical, sensual and mental experience.
Finally, I’ll leave you with some personal thoughts on Pitino’s Defensive System.
Pitino is a master on defense. He’s often said to not be an X’s and O’s coach, but that is definitely not true on defense. He has continually, throughout his career, been the trend-setter through innovation and making adjustments and improvements to his defensive schemes. A huge part of Pitino assistant coaches’ success when they move to a head coaching position comes from the defensive end. Pitino’s biggest compliment from coaches at the next level about his players always includes that they know how to play defense.
A side effect of Pitino’s defensive genius is that not all players are a quick study. It takes repetition to master the system and I’m very proud by the growth of Chane and Gorgui this season on the defensive side of the ball. Gorgui is our leader and Chane is no longer a liability and becoming quite adept at executing. We have a lot to look forward to as these young interior players grow.
Either Gorgui’s ability to stay on the floor 35+ mins a game and/or Price’s ability to absorb and adequately lead the defense in reserve is very likely the most important key to the rest of the season. I personally believe that a combination of both is the best solution. Gorgui shouldn’t play 35+ mins because that will take away some of his aggression and mean Gorgui is the Gorgui we want out there. Price isn’t inept at leading the defense, just ignorant. The criticism of not playing Price more early in the season is, in my opinion, a valid one; but it would have come with a cost. Would you have traded an early-season head scratcher loss to Ohio or College of Charleston for an unknown amount of improvement in Price? I don’t know what the right answer to that is, only that it may not have changed anything but adding one more loss to the column, happening early in the season.
Injuries really hurt our new players, even if the injury doesn’t happen to them. Seeing the proper execution and how effective it is valuable to understanding and changing the behavior of new players on defense. Repetition is key to mastering the defense and even missing a week can cause players to be rusty in their decision making, lowering the efficiency of our defense.
Lastly, I just want to comment that even though there are legitimate gripes going around with how this season has progressed, I still think Coach Pitino is a great coach. Like many rich guys who got rich because they are also smart guys, he’s got an ego. He knows he’s good. However, as a guy who is daily trying to tame an ego, let me tell you that nobody is more embarrassed internally about the performance of this team than Pitino. This team will get better this season and since it doesn’t seem that great shooters are just going to fall from the sky to save us, it’s going to start on the defensive end. Perhaps instead of saying "defense is the problem", Coach Pitino should start saying that "defense is the solution."
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Thank you Remote
Thank you very much for your willingness to scale Mount Stupid and knock it down to a Knob. Amazingly clear analysis, extraordinarily well written.
Triple rec’d
WORTH IT
You can also skim some stuff.
Also get the readability plug-in and it will be a lot easier to read.
by CardsFan922 on Jan 18, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not a "reader"?
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
If there's no pictures, I'm out too.
I do like the graph though.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 19, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
It is an interesting world we live in to know enough about a person
you’ve never met to know what tone to read this with
Should I take this as a compliment, or make plans to hunt you down?
I recall that you’re a St.X grad, as was I and rickmbari above, so I already know where to start looking. ~
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 19, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
When I first looked at this, I said the same thing.
Then I scrolled down and saw hot hot’s gif… I scrolled back up and read most of it. I didn’t want to disappoint hot hot.
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Jan 19, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
wasn't trying to be a jerk
but it would be a shame for any fan of Louisville, college hoops or this blog to not read the entire thing.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 19, 2012 3:40 AM EST up reply actions
My eyes glazed over at first glance but the comments convinced me to read it
And, I thank everyone who made that case, because it was well worth the effort.
by Unseld2Beard on Jan 19, 2012 6:55 AM EST up reply actions
Great job.
I want to add that Pitino’s defensive system (or any for that matter) looks exponentially better the more athletic and long you are at key positions. People like to say Siva and Russ get shot over at the top of the zone, but we were probably the most dominant defensive team in the country with Andre McGee at the top of the zone in 2009.
The key positions in Rick’s defense are the 3 and 4 spot, like Remote Cardinal alluded to: if you miss the switch you don’t rebound as well because of your position, and you don’t close out on wing shooters, both big responsibilities of your forwards. This is where I personally thought Rak would make a big difference this year, but he really never got his mojo back and now the injury.
Something I have mused about is how a PF with a body like Chane can be quick and long enough to actually limit the weakness this kind of system has with wing shooters. Just a thought.
As many bodies as we have on the bench, I don’t know how we turn pressing into a trademark of this team. Pitino teams beat you because they press, turn you over, and as a result take 10 more shots than you. It has masked and negated really averaging shooting teams and made them great before. The most important thing for this team defensively going forward I think is whether they can rebound well and turn teams over in the half court in absence of pressing all game. That’s just me.
They should also make some shots.
Over. Pshhht.
by James Sutherland on Jan 18, 2012 7:07 PM EST reply actions
Pressing
You alluded to the fact that we need to make shots. Pitino only presses after a made shot, so our poor shooting hasn’t allowed us to set it up as often as we’d like. Not only does it cause turnovers and result in easy baskets, it often forces the opposing team to burn their whole shot clock before taking(hopefully) a bad shot.
Compound the added possessions from steals, the extra possessions from pushing the pace on the offensive end, and forcing the opposing team to burn their shot clock and you will get a lot more possessions.
Obviously, the offense hasn’t been able to go as fast as we like and we haven’t been shooting very well, but hopefully once guys get healthy and learn the defense we will improve on offense as a result.
by cardcorefan on Jan 18, 2012 8:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow
This was amazing well thought out and analyzed. I love this site.
by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 18, 2012 7:57 PM EST reply actions
This is great stuff, rec'd
One thing that can help offset the learning curve for the freshman is a great leader and communicator on the floor. With players like David Padgett and Preston Knowles shouting out where people need to be on the floor, there are fewer mental lapses by the younger guys. We really have yet to figure out who that guy is this year.
by Ellis from Compton on Jan 18, 2012 7:59 PM EST reply actions
What ever happened to, "hey dumbass, guard #4. And stay with him"
Say, maybe we should try this. Sounds pretty good.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 18, 2012 8:10 PM EST reply actions
I'm thinking our guys might play better using this system than Pitino's. Just sayin'
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 18, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
If he's afraid of wearing the remaining guys out with full court pressure, playing exclusively man will wear them out too.
Going man for a bit might help, but man or zone, some of our guys just can’t get around a screen right now to keep a hand in the shooters face. Man wouldn’t fix that.
by CardinalDude on Jan 18, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Keep it simple stupid
Stick with your man. Think of him as chewing gum. By the end of the game, I want you to know what flavor he is.
We did that in the UK game... that 11-0 run to tie in the first half.
That’s mostly what I’ve been complaining about every game since then. There are times when Pitino will call a straight M2M out of a timeout or off a free throw or something. But it will only be for a possession or two. He never stays with it. And he never went back to it in the UK game until it was too late.
I know we’re struggling with fatigue. And maybe he’s not playing some guys because they can’t handle the matchup zone. But maybe play straight man while the subs are in and at least get the starters back down closer to 30 min a game?
Especially the last couple of losses… Providence and Marquette executed against the zone. They got into the high post for either open jumpers, or they pulled the middle of the zone up and passed baseline for layups. It looked very much like a basic 2-3 getting picked apart.
by GoCardinals on Jan 19, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure it would matter which defense with the subs
despite his spirited grab of that rebound that led to a held ball, Price looks more like a pinball than a defender when he is out there. He will certainly be getting his trial by fire with Rak out. You can fault CRP for not playing him more earlier, but he also needed to get Rak back in the saddle at the beginning of the season as well.
This whole M2M vs zone with subs smacks of Deja vu…
This is excellent
Thanks so much. I had wondered about the “switch to man-to-man when ball goes low” zone because it seemed like we hadn’t been running that as much, and now I guess I know why.
Also I was wondering why we were giving up so many open 3s this year. Way more than in the past.
Sadly
This is about the only thing I notice these days. I can watch a VillenHD a few days later and be like “wow that block was impressive” but during the game all I noticed was that Russ didn’t switch to the right guy who ended up impacting the loose ball, causing us to lose the possession.
by Remote Cardinal on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Excellent job
Not adding anything new here to the comments, but I thought this post was a great primer on basketball analysis and also serves as a reminder as to what kind of coach Rick Pitino is. Thanks
Well done. Would love to see your analysis of Rick's offensive schemes too.
by Rip Roaring Rock on Jan 18, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions
I'm not much of an offensive schemes guy
But my limited knowledge would say that we currently have a very basic half-court NBA style pick and roll set without the talent that guys in the NBA have. Really we won’t ever be impressive in the half-court without major talent. In the past, jumpshooting has been our greatest asset in the half-court. This season, it’s our greatest liability. We need to fix our jumpshooting or it’s going to be a really long season on offense.
Our offense in transistion has traditionally been fabulous. This year it feels like we’ve just lost our swagger. Nobody (well I’ll exclude Russ for right now) has that killer instict this year. I remember one play in particular this year when Chris Smith was on the break and held up against one (similar sized) defender and ended up turning the ball over. Last year that was a layup and a high probability for an “and 1”.
Back to Russ, the kid is a great scorer and reminds me of a blend of Peyton and Preston. He’s going to continue to get better, but wild shots are a part of who he is, so he’s never going to post a 10-12 FG night.
In my opinion, our best bet on offense this year is a combo of Russ being Russ, inside-out plays through Chane to get 3’s for C. Smith/Kuric, and feeding Gorgui in the paint when he’s got position without the expectation of a pass back outside. Biggest room for improvement to make that successful is the development of Chane’s handling and passing skills. If Chane’s offensive skill set could warrant a double team (or a zone collapse) and Smith and Kuric shoot 40% from 3…all of our offensive woes disappear overnight.
by Remote Cardinal on Jan 18, 2012 9:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd like to see the mid-90s Houston Rockets offense...
Feed Gorgui until they double team him, and then rotate around the perimeter for open shots.
Len Elmore was calling for that during Monday’s game, and he’s the best color commentator ESPN has. Gorgui started 4-4 and had 3 assists.
Granted it might be less effective against the handful of teams that can guard Gorgui 1 on 1, but I don’t think there are many of those this season.
But either way a little post play might be better than Siva dribbling, dribbling, and dribbling some more.. we waste a lot of time on offense when we should be pushing the tempo.
by GoCardinals on Jan 19, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
"That just happened" ..does CRP have an assistant coach chart this kinda useful stuff or is it all about the body fat %
lot of good stuff there.
Amazing post
It made me feel basketball-dumb.
by cardcorefan on Jan 18, 2012 9:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think we can all pinpoint the date his ideas for the match-up zone started. 3/29/2009.
The Michigan State loss. They ate our zone up, and that team was probably the closest he’s ever gotten in terms of defensive athleticism since UK in 96. He has absolutely been ahead of the game in terms of defensive schemes his entire career.
I know I’ve mentioned it before, but I remember an article from a year or two ago suggesting that over matched teams should always play a full court press. Ideally it creates more scoring opportunities for you and takes them away from your opponent. So if you use it with great athletes, like us from 07-09, or UK in the mid-90s, you get great defensive teams. It’s also one of the big reasons last years team was surprisingly successful.
The injuries are the exact reason we have backed off the press and man to man. Say what you want about our conditioning, but running around non-stop chasing after a player would not help us, especially on the offensive end. Our guys already shoot poorly enough, tired legs would only make worse.
I think this also leads to a recruiting conundrum. Does he go for the elite players who will only stay a year or two and not be good in his system, or a guy not as highly ranked that will be here 4 years, and be great in his system in years 3 and 4? It looks like he’s been trying to fine the line of the elite players that will stay for a few years and guys who just need some polish. I’d say he’s had mixed success; Samardo didn’t say, but it looks like we might get 4 years out of Siva.
Up until the last rash of injuries, our defense managed to stay at an elite level. And it’s why we can be on the bottom end on ever offensive measure, and still start the season 12-0. Now, it’s not that we have little depth as much as it is our upper-classmen are the ones injured. I don’t want to get into a debate on why are guys are getting injured, but them being injured is the biggest defensive problem.
Offensively, we are just a poor shooting team, even on open looks. That makes it difficult to setup the press and hurts the points we get on turnovers. The reason for our sudden issues are definitely complex, and there is only so much you can tackle at once. Playing great defense again with healthy players can mask our offensive deficiency like it did to start the season. Or we could start shooting better while not improving in the injury department and cover up our current defensive woes.
Louisville used the matchup zone before and during the 2009 NCAAT.
But Ralph Willard’s arrival that Summer after the Elite 8 loss to Mich State was likely related to helping Rick teach this defense, as Willard is also very well known as a matchup zone coach. The problem since ’09 is the athletes—and lack of experience—available to run the zone, but that can be overcome if everyone works hard enough with regard to learning the system.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 18, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
my biggest memory is our zone getting eaten alive against MSU.
If anything, I think that ga
by CardinalDude on Jan 19, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
game is when he decided to implement as a main defensive system.
by CardinalDude on Jan 19, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
The article you refer to is "How Underdogs Win"
by Malcolm Gladwell, who wrote “Outliers”, “Blink” and “The Tipping Point”.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/11/090511fa_fact_gladwell
Interesting anecdotes about the ’96 Kentucky squad.
Also, props on the Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal lead-in
…aside from xkcd and maybe Questionable Content, my favorite webcomic.
I've got The Tipping Point on my nightstand right now.
In queue to read after I finish the two I’ve got started right now.
by Remote Cardinal on Jan 19, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Excellent stuff, BUT
A tomato is a fruit.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
Biologically speaking, they are a fruit. From a culinary perspective, they're probably a vegetable.
“Vegetable” is a culinary term, not a biological term; the term “fruit” has both a culinary and scientific uses. Hence all the confusion.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/words/is-a-tomato-a-fruit-or-a-vegetable
by CardinalFanaticus on Jan 18, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Swopshire?
So is the reason that Swop sees a decent amount of minutes even though he is a liability on offense, because he is fairly competent at executing the defensive schemes?
by LouisvilleSklardinalFAN02 on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 PM EST reply actions
As one of the several people who asked about Pitino's system, I'd like to say thanks.
This is a very well-written post, and insightful.
By way of follow-up, is this type of defense used at the NBA level (or at least the same concepts)? I don’t watch enough NBA basketball to know. Just wondering if that has any impact on recruiting (e.g. players don’t want to spend 3-4 years learning one system, only to have to learn a new one in the NBA).
Posts like these are a good reminder that I need to take a step back and breathe, because the solutions probably aren’t as simple as I’d like them to be. Cheers, and thanks.
by CardinalFanaticus on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 PM EST reply actions
Who has two thumbs and just got schooled
with an exceptional lesson?
4ul4life!
Thanks! puts all of this into a better perspective. My BBall IQ just increased exponentially ^ factorial
GO! CARDS!
BEAT!
PURDUE!
by 4ul4life on Jan 18, 2012 9:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That is a really great breakdown of Pitino's body of work and his philosophies
concerning how to play excellent defense. Most people forget his innovations and how they effect today’s game.
The one thing I will add is that his system requires one thing above all else, and that is that the players must buy into it and believe in it’s results which you can only see when as you mentioned above, it gets repeated over and over and the players learn to do what they need to automatically without thinking about it.
Really great post!!
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Jan 18, 2012 9:30 PM EST reply actions
WOW!!!
This was EPIC! and yes it was so EPIC it had to be capitalized, twice! I would love to see more posts like these remote they are extremely interesting
Great write
,The thing is ,Yes freshmen do struggle under Pitino, but they do get minutes. Something that never gets mentioned is Pitino really never pulls a player for missing shots, actually more so for making shots sometimes it seems. But if you play defense you will stay on the floor. T-will and knowles would have never developed if it wasn’t for Theyr early playing time. We have a great team of defenders, if we can stop switching things so much personal I believe we will be ok,,the offense will come, everybody says we don’t have good shooters but I will take Kyle and Chris Smith anyday, if we end up getting a five star caliber performance out of Blackshear OR Siva I think we will go far. Still definitely optimistic
by HaHaSypher on Jan 18, 2012 9:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Post of the Year
Well, at least through 18 days.
Should be required reading with a quiz before anyone can create a post or comment going forward.
Stout Out!
by tdstout on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
30 minutes well spent
Boy am I impressed! Makes me want to apologize for some of the thoughts I’ve been having toward Rick lately. Glad I didn’t say anything so nobody knows how stupid I really am! Seriously, I have a new appreciation for Rick & it gives me hope & more patience for the rest of the year. Thanks Remote!
by RodneyScooter on Jan 18, 2012 10:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great stuff!
It’s nice to see a post that’s actually related to basketball instead of the usual angst.
Rec'd
Our HS hoops coach was an assistant to Pitino at UK right before he coached us for 2 years. He’s since coached at bigger public schools in Louisville and won a state title. Anyways, I wish I would’ve kept our playbooks b/c we ran a full court press with the same principles and it would be fun to post those sheets of paper here in all their X’s & O’s glory.
FWIW, our press variations and inbounds plays took up 90% of the playbook and the offense was a simplified version of the motion I believe, but I’ve had too many concussions since then to remember all that.
Good diagram here:

by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions
I feel smarter after readin that.
by BradGianiny on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You know it's good when you "think" you could go teach people how to do something after you read it
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 18, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions
The problem with this defensive emphasis...
…is that, statistically speaking, offense is actually more important for NCAA title teams than defense. For a number of reasons — most notably tighter officiating and quick turnaround times — elite scoring teams with adequate defense tends to win titles. Elite defnese with adequate scoring does not.
Put another, Roy Williams’s secondary break offense is more effective in tournament play than Bo Ryan’s grind-it-out style. Ben Howland, Jamie Dixon and so forth never can seem to get it together at turner time. I know it goes against the “defense wins championships” mantra, but the truth is defense helps — you can’t be a Billy Tubbs no-defense team — but offense is essential.
Until Rick cares as much about offense as defense — and recruits to tha need — I don’t see us winning a title.
that kinda harkens back to Wooden's statistical analysis
FG% is king.
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
Remote, I only got one problem with you
You need to post more often.
Seriously, thanks for taking the time to share this.
It's pretty rare that you run into somebody with so much analytical
knowledge of how the game is played but also who can and is weilling to articulate that knowledge so well.
Thank you Remote Cardinal – WELL DONE!
If RC scaled Mount Stupid...
…he clearly showed me I’m down here on cliff Idiot. Watched basketball and played it most of my life. I never really cared to learn the necessities to be successful at it. Man to man and 2-3 zone was all I understood. Just let me shoot the ball. It’ll most likely miss but it’d be the best looking shot missed on the court. Seriously RC, thanks for making it possible for me to understand, even though I do feel dumber about basketball now.
Are you currently on our roster? Come on, fess up.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 19, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
I confess...
… I’m not Russ Smith or on the roster, although I was a ballboy for the Cards back in the mid & late 70’s.
"Cliff Idiot." LOL
Nice turn of phrase. Made me laugh!
Explains a lot.
I think we all knew that there were things happening out there that we were not privileged to understand, this article helps to sort out what those things are. The play, the play, the play; how many times have I/we said that word without knowing what the play was? We only knew that whatever it was, it wasn’t working; and that was usually because someone did not do there part.
And, we still don’t know what innovations to the play CRP is adding to counteract the opponent’. So, we will still be watching and knowing the play either worked or it didn’t and left wondering why? Was the play wrong, or wrongly executed?
Whatever comes, I, for one, will feel better about it if CRP adopts the advise Remote gives in his last sentence: "Perhaps instead of saying “defense is the problem”, Coach Pitino should start saying that “defense is the solution.”. In saying that it is the solution, that it is what is holding us back is implied, but, we/the team is given a positive to focus on rather than a citation of blame. It is a small change in CRP’s language that can have many positive effects including and not exclusively to serve to keep the focus on making progress.
absolutely great post
i would love to see more posts like this on here. Thank you so much for taking the time to post this.
I weep for the future
Beautiful post, wish we could have more like it! But the fact that some people found it too long to read makes me shake my head in old man anger/disgust, and I’m only 35 years old! Jesus, if people can’t take 10 minutes to read an interesting post on a sport/team/coach they claim to love, which was really not even as long as a typical magazine article, no wonder the literacy rate is in the toilet. Read a book, kids!
Phew. Anyways, great stuff. I love the silly/fun stuff on CC, but I also love the game knowledge that people bring to the table. I could read stuff like this all day. Rec’d!
by DonRussell'sMustache on Jan 19, 2012 8:22 AM EST reply actions
Excellent post. Here's my take from recent posts and comments
1) My HS coach ran many similar principles on both O and D as Pitino. This defensive scheme reminds of the time where we tried to run the “checkers” defense. It started in either a 1-3-1 or 2-3 and then switched to the opposite after a predetermined number of passes. The top of the zone would count passes and then yell checkers and the defense would switch. When effectively done, this made the offense have to start completely over and often left the other team confused. The problem was, even though this was a very simple scheme on paper or in practice, in live situations in became very complex. There are so many variables in an actual game that we often ended up out of position and in deep trouble. We could hardly ever run it as it was such a complex in game defense. The same thing is happening now. When it’s good, it’s great. But if you can’t react to what the offense is doing as you switch, you will get burned. This is often why freshmen take so long to adjust to CRPs system and often struggle early.
We also ran the run and jump press as we had many quick guards and athletes but again, if you aren’t quick (or in our case hobbled by injury) you give up a lot of open three’s and layups.
2) This also explains our recruiting “woes”. Most of the top 20 HS players have their sights set on the NBA. They don’t want to take the time to adapt to a new system. Pitino needs, and usually gets, one or two fringe McDs boys and a few other lower ranked players. This gives him a good base to develop as one-and-dones will never thrive under CRP.
3) We have blinded by the snake down the road. If Cal wasn’t doing what he is doing at UK, our fans would not be near as paranoid as they are. Like I said, we don’t need the top ten players. We need players that fit our game, not UK’s.
4) No matter what anyone says, our season woes so far can be blamed first and foremost on injuries. Our biggest strength was going to be our bench. We could press and run and hide our offensive woes. But now we have basically zero bench and can’t do what we do best. We are forced to play like what we aren’t and we just can’t beat the elite competition like that. My biggest fear is that we never get healthy enough and continue to just coast by. I’m just praying for a tourney bid at this point and to be healthy next year.
5) It looks like our “bridge” kind of collapsed on us and we have to spend this year building it back up to get where we want next year. Unless we get some more workers (healthy players) soon, we will continue building until next year. I know you all won’t like to hear that but it’s the truth and there is nothing we can do about it.
by indianacardfan on Jan 19, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great stuff remote.
Worth the read.
by CtotheAtotheRtotheDtotheS on Jan 19, 2012 9:03 AM EST reply actions
This was awesome
Thanks for that, well worth the read.
Excellent post
Thanks for taking the time to explain things. Much appreciated. These are the things that make CC a step above those other sites out there.
Go Cards!!
by twistedwedge on Jan 19, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions
How can we be so stupid??????????
There is no doubt that Remote Cardinal knows far more about this topic than many/most of us, myself included. And, I have already thanked him for this extremely insightful post. Seriously, this is great stuff. Then I got to thinking, how come I don’t see all of this? Can I really be that clueless? Then it struck me, I don’t see any of the games in person – just on tv. Living 600 miles from the Yum makes that impossible. And on tv, we usually only get to see where the ball is. We rarely get to see the entire court. That and when they change camera angles we often lose all perspective of where people are relative to where they just were in the last camera shot.
So while I am truly looking forward to using this new found knowledge provided by Remote Cardinal, and have a much better idea of what to watch for, I am not sure just how much of it I will actually be able to see given the limited camera lens view of the action. It will be very interesting to see and in no ways takes away from the wonderful information he has provided us. Just hoping the tv folks cooperate.
Go Cards.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 19, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions
I've already planned to print Remote's post and have it ready to DVR rewind/review play in the next game.
Me too, it is absolutely great information and lays it out well too.
Only hope that the tv gods let me see enough to follow it. Like in football, on a pass play you only see the QB drop back and then the ball going to the intended receiver. No idea if there was anyone else open, or any better option. TV is great for being able to see replays and slow-mo looks at plays, but does just follow the ball and misses a lot of the nuances of what’s going on elsewhere on the field.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 19, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I've only seen one live UofL game since the Final Four against Illinois.
And that was this year and it was College of Charleston.
I was directly across from the Louisville Bench and on the front row. That game was easily the worst game for me to see all the movement and action (I was TOO low, needed to be about 7 rows up for an ideal angle), but I was able to hear most of the communication on the team (particularly when things were going badly and the crowd was quiet). Gorgui was VERY vocal on defense during that game and that’s when I realized that he’s the only one calling for the switch. Nobody else was calling it (granted Gorgui played 38 mins of that game).
Instead of hoping the TV guys cooperate, I’m hoping the team executes it well. If we do, it should be pretty impressive.
by Remote Cardinal on Jan 19, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
probably one of the best posts i've read on this site.
great job remote! gotta love the guys passion for our cards. great post!
Viva Siva
Nicely done!
Love the detail, and the insight. It was long because it had to be to cover all of the details that result in the defense we all love to watch (when it’s clicking) and cover our eyes (when someone is out of position).
This will make watching the WV Game a bit more interesting for me… Go Cards!

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