Rakeem Buckles Tears ACL In Other Knee, Will Miss This Season And Next
by CardinalDude on Jan 17, 2012 7:04 PM EST
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University of Louisville junior forward Rakeem Buckles suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his left knee during the Cardinals' game at Marquette on Monday and will miss the remainder of season and all of next season with his second career knee injury.
"I don't think any of us could imagine this happening to such a fine young man," said U of L Coach Rick Pitino. "All of us are just crushed. We had thought he had just hyperextended the knee when he had turned for a simple block out and it turned out to be terribly wrong. We will stay close to Rakeem so we can keep his spirits high."
"Coming back from a second major knee surgery, Rakeem's recovery is expected to take well over a year," said UofL Men's Basketball Trainer Fred Hina. "We will work with him closely on his recovery and will apply for a fifth year for him to play his final season as a Cardinal."
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and just when you thought things could not get any worse
They do. But look on the bright side, everyone has been begging for Zach Price to get PT. There you go. I swear Karen Sypher has a freaking voodoo doll somewhere.
Career ending?
I mean, how can it not be? If it had to happen though, I’m glad he’s at least with Hina, one of the best in the biz. Keep your head up Rak!
This is horrible
You got to feel for him. You work your whole life to get to this level, and then its gone.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 17, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions
Don't they have waivers
for medical redshirts, or whatever they call them?
by Unseld2Beard on Jan 17, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
RS still counts as one of our 13--Will Rick have to be a dick?
Rak can use a medical RS next year and keep his 4th year of eligibilty for the 13-14 season, but the scholly we hold for him will still count against our 13.
If RP can pull in a big recruit it might be best to do the cutthroat thing and drop Rak. That is a “dick move” and many would burn RP for not doing the “right” thing…but it might be best for the program. Because after tearing his ACL in both knees, I have to think this prospects of playing at the major college level (much less pro) are going to be slim. It might really be in his best intrest to finish college next year and then transfer, if he graduates next year, he can transfer to another school without sitting out a year (as long as he enrolls in a graduate program not offered at UofL—its the same thing Goode is doing this year at Farleigh Dickinson).
I know that is a bad thing to say and i threw up in my mouth a little as i typed it.
as if our karma could get worse?
Seriously, we’ve got 2 guys done for season with ACL tears, 1 guy yet to play with a bum shoulder, and a 4th who has played a coupla games due to some knee injury. Not to mention the aches, pains, concussions, and sprains that have caused game-by-game issues…
Yeah, better not tempt our karma
by irish2705 on Jan 17, 2012 8:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hina says he will work with him through his recovery
and apply for a fifth year, so its sounds like he will stay around. Rick says they will stay close to him, Rickspeak is hard to read, but it sounds like Rak is going to be part of the team. I don’t suppose Rak has the ability to pay his own way, as others on the team have done, so if the NCAA makes no provision to let the school keep him on unless he keeps his athletic scholly then I believe we will not have that scholly to offer. Rick did say something earlier about this being Swop’s last season, though.
by Unseld2Beard on Jan 17, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Swop must go for Rozier to have a scholly.
Anyone know anything different please chime in.
scholly for injured players
i was thinking if a player was hurt, and unable to play the school could give another scholly to him (like we did for Clarence Holloway when it was discovered that he had a heart condition)…however that might not apply here, if this isn’t a career ending injury.
I strongly disagree
First of all, I think it would be morally wrong for the university to encourage him to leave.
And second of all, I don’t think it would be good for the program. Imagine the reputation we would get among recruits: “Yeah, they love you until something bad happens, and then they push you out the door.”
by BostonCardFan on Jan 17, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Thats what they do in the SEC in football.
Except its called over recruiting. Even more of a dick thing to do. The thing to do in Rocks case is for the university to give him a academic scholly, to finish his degree.
by ville 606 on Jan 17, 2012 8:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, if that's allowed, an academic scholly would be the least we could do
by BostonCardFan on Jan 17, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
He was going to be on scholarship next year no matter what anyways, and it's his senior year. Why would he need an academic scholly? He's going to graduate next year.
by James Sutherland on Jan 17, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
It's more likely that he won't be back to play period. What good does an extra year do for Rak coming off two straight ACL tears?
In this system he will virtually have no chance of a positive impact after essentially missing the meat of 3 straight seasons.. His best shot is to finish his degree next year and if he wants another year of basketball to go the George Goode route. It sucks for Rak, but honestly is a redshirt worth it for either party involved?
by James Sutherland on Jan 17, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry to sound preachy
with the “morally wrong” bit. But ALL I care about right now is Rak and his recovery.
It’s gonna be a long road, but I would hate for him to feel like the university and the fans weren’t standing by him right now. I was psyched to see Hina’s quote about the “final year as a Cardinal.”
by BostonCardFan on Jan 17, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Found something interesting
while trying to research NCAA rules about scholarships for injured players. It seems the school isn’t even responsible for the medical bills. Glad the U of L is going to pick up the tab.
“2. Hold schools responsible for their players’ sports-related medical expenses.
The NCAA does not require schools to cover sports-related injuries – it’s optional. College athletes injured during sports-related workouts should not have to pay for medical expenses out of their own pockets. Universities should be mandated to pay for all of their athletes’ sports-related medical expenses.”
by Unseld2Beard on Jan 17, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
schools paying for medical bills
i would hope any D-1 school would do the same. Even if they didn’t have a shitload of money like UofL.
I feel for the kid too.
But we got a bench full of hobbled ass basketball players right now. Facts is facts. If there is a way to give him anoth.er scholly so he can finish his degree so be it. A friend of mine played for UK as one of the Unforgetables, Pitino tried to pull his basketball scholly and get him to take a golf scholarship to free up a basketball scholarship.
by ville 606 on Jan 17, 2012 8:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jesus H. Perhaps, now that he is hurt, he should just be taken out back and shot?
Do you have zero understanding of the concept of “teammate”? He has been a part of the program for years, been up day after day at 6:00 am for lifting/training/gym, but now – well $@%# him?
by Leeroy Jenkins on Jan 17, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm in this camp.
Card for life, not Card for as long as we can use you.
by Justin Gingey Smith on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Anyone ever read the book of Job?
Yeah, this season is kind of like that. It’s all about perseverance and keeping the faith and all that.
Personally I think Job just got f***ed over for no good reason.
sigh
Job is all about innocent suffering because God told Satan that Job was the most righteous person on Earth
and the whole theological question revolving around this book is why do good people suffer? That’s the million dollar question
The question you referenced from the overall theme in Job actually has an answer in Hebrews.
“For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.” – Hebrews 12:6
Especially since this team is so spiritual, with Rick calling it the most spiritually-minded team he has ever coached, I’m with johnnyjoejohnson in that the question you asked is a much better question, even though I think that for a different reason.
What I guess I’m trying to say (other than saying that there IS an answer to why good people suffer), is that Job suffered because with his spirituality and faith he could take it, and this team seems to be the same way. It is really sad to see such a nice young guy like Rak go through this, but if any team can take this (not basketball-wise at the moment, but at least spiritually and mentally) it would seem to be the Cards.
by TheV!lle on Jan 17, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good God. My heart goes out to you, Rak city.
Hell of a character, was never disappointed when you were on the floor. Here’s to your fifth year and dominating as an old man. Chin up.
by Justin Gingey Smith on Jan 17, 2012 7:28 PM EST reply actions
unreal
"As long as we win, I couldn't care less; my average can go down to four points and zero rebounds. As long as we win, I don't care."
- P!K
Hey Charlie, can we stop getting football recruits on days the backetball team plays?
It brings nothing but bad luck to them.
Terrible to hear...
Best wishes to Rak – and turn lemons into lemonade – I’m sure you can find some good in this.
Ok I've tried to stay positive through everything this year, but I am seriously about to lose it.
Someone please talk me off the ledge
Pretend you are a UL point guard and jump,
you won’t hit anything
by cardchomp on Jan 17, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hey, it would get him off the ledge
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by noobmaster on Jan 17, 2012 8:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I feel really bad for Rak
He had such a promising career.
Let’s be real, it wasn’t bring much this year….this isn’t season injury.
"As long as we win, I couldn't care less; my average can go down to four points and zero rebounds. As long as we win, I don't care."
- P!K
Last year, before the UK game
he was playing really good, leading rebounder and had lots of potential.
"As long as we win, I couldn't care less; my average can go down to four points and zero rebounds. As long as we win, I don't care."
- P!K
where else are you going to find a PF who can play right away?
by JohnTongEchoesinmyhead on Jan 17, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks GCCA
I’ll have to agree and be more excited about Behanan and VanTressy over a questionable freshman. I don’t want to be too concerned with next year anyway, things are about to change for the better for this team, this season
I'd rather have those two, too
I was just pointing out that if we were going to bring in a frosh PF (which was the whole premise behind this comment threat that started with cardchomp’s “Too early to talk about possibility of getting a PF in this upcoming solo man class?” comment), this late in the recruiting process you’re probably not going to find one that can play right away that doesn’t have some big issue.
by JohnTongEchoesinmyhead on Jan 18, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Nobody will come to Louisville now!
They Jinx of the YUM!
WTF?! Was that place built on a burial ground or what?!
GO! CARDS!
BEAT!
PURDUE!
How quickly you forget
last year, the innagural season in Yum!, was pretty amazing and quite fortunate
by JohnTongEchoesinmyhead on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Spirits didn't know who to take it out on
so they’re taking it out on current players…
Just reaching for some explanation to the metric $#!+ ton of bad luck our basketball team as been the recipient of.
GO! CARDS!
BEAT!
PURDUE!
Horrible news!!!
I feel awful for the guy.
by cardcorefan on Jan 17, 2012 7:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Awesome
Sometimes it feels as if our team is the group from Dodgeball and Patches is throwing wrenches at them.
New news no news
Same news as usual. Whatever happened to the team with too many players?
Thank God for HCCS!
Sorry to hear about this one guys......no one wants to see that happen to anyone
friend or foe.
Best wishes to the young man, I have never seen anyone have to go through so much just to get to play basketball. It’s a shame.
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Jan 17, 2012 7:55 PM EST reply actions
WHOA
Please destroy this picture. No good can come of this. It is pure evil.
by Justin Gingey Smith on Jan 18, 2012 12:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This sucks for the team
But it suck a lot worse for Rak. Keep your head up. I hope to be cheering my guts out in early November 2013 when he steps back out on the floor.
I bleed red and black. I poop blue.
by neecebravo on Jan 17, 2012 7:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
My heart goes out to Rak and his family
My favorite Louisville big man in a long time, keep your head up.
by HaHaSypher on Jan 17, 2012 8:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't mean this as a joke
But didn’t Peyton’s father say something about the Devil? I mean this is getting too weird.
Maybe
It’s not Rick. Maybe it’s our medical team. Do these chumps know what they’re doing? Fred Hina?
by REALISTICCARDSFAN on Jan 17, 2012 8:16 PM EST reply actions
good point
this “outworking our opponent” motto of Pitino’s isn’t a new one. why have we seen so many injuries over the past couple years, but not nearly this many on RP’s first 9 years at UofL, or for that matter his teams at UK?
Sad :-(
I’m a UK fan/alum and I hate to hear about something like this happening to a kid no matter who he plays for. But it’s especially tragic in this young mans case to have already suffered through an injury like this once before. :-( I wish him a speedy recovery and hope that he’ll get to play one final season. Regardless of the uniform, you can’t help but feel bad for these kids who pour their heart and soul into the game and then suffer an injury like this.
by bmt22033 on Jan 17, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Uncalled for
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 17, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
This "blog" is in the midst of a total melt down
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 17, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But at least every mushroom cloud has a silver lining, right?
by TheV!lle on Jan 17, 2012 10:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Miss the old Rak
Feel bad for him but he was not the same old Rak anyway. Time to recruit and sign some big men.
I see a bunch of people here talking about his career being over and who his scholarship could go to, can't believe what I'm seeing.
Pray to God Rak doesn’t read this site.
CC meltdown in 3…..2……..1………..
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 17, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions
looking back......
I wish Goode had stayed…
by 859Cardguy on Jan 17, 2012 9:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Someone post a history of the injuries in the last 2 years
Does anything of this magnitude happen in other programs? I’m genuinely curious if UofL is truly a freakish outlier or closer to the norm.
Outlier.... I can't even imagine how another program could come close to this
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 17, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
OK, then let's be logical about this
Either what’s happening is truly just a freakish outlier statistically and could happen to any program at any time, but against high odds. Or, something different is happening within the UofL program to account for the abnormally high injury rate. What do you guys think?
I can buy a statistical improbability one year.
Not year after year after year.
I have said before, we should look at this from a non emotional, purely business standpoint.
By that I mean, if a Fortune 500 company had a plant that was experiencing an abnormally high rate of sickness, or accidents, to the point where it was seriously disrupting the productivity of the plant, they would investigate to find out why. If it proved to be just bad luck, then fine. But they would find out the facts. No offense but taking the word of the plant manager that it was just bad luck simply wouldn’t fly after multiple years. They would conduct an thorough and independent investigation and let the facts fall where they may.
I don’t know if anyone knows why this is happening, but if it were me, I would sure as hell find out. And like I said, if it proves to be just terribly bad luck, so be it. But I would want to know for sure.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 17, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
And how do you know they aren't doing that?
"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster
Try this...
Type www.espn360.com in the address bar above, replay the Louisville vs Marquette game, and begin your investigation.
Guy was blocking out. Simply bad luck. I am not sure what kind of investigation you want to do.
Mich St in 2008-09 suffered a lot of injuries, but most were preseason
And most of their guys came back that year (to beat UofL in the Elite Eight, no less).
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Marquette
Maybe it was their unis, but they looked like they had football players on the court and they beat our asses. Perhaps the OCD obsession with body fat is doing more harm than good. How about less marathon runner body and more actual sharpening of basketball skills? Sorry, I’m trying really really hard not to lose it here. I really am. But I am 100% at the end of my rope with this bullshit. Can we please stop dancing around the OBVIOUS FACT that there is a problem with how CRP is running this program?
one man's obvious fact is another's rash conclusion
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It hasn't just been the last two years.
Remember key injuries to Myles, Padgett, Palacios, Dean, etc. That’s just naming a few…there have been plenty. Just not piled up in the same season.
Stout Out!
Terrible news.
We’re only going to get thinner next year. Price will need to step up big time, this year and next.
by Get_In_My_BELLY_ on Jan 17, 2012 9:26 PM EST reply actions
My heart just sank
Poor Rak…
Thing is-even if he manages to come back full strength, the little nagging voice in the back of his head will seriously screw with his confidence level on the court. A major knee injury is one of the most difficult things for an athlete to recover from, especially a basketball player. The strength required to maintain stability of the knee is critical, and players essentially have to "re-learn" how to jump, twist, rotate, etc. All the while, they’re thinking of re-injuring. This X2? I just don’t see him ever being back to 2010 Buckles. Hope I’m wrong, but doesn’t look good.
Best of luck with your recovery, Bucks.
God damn. I told my boss earlier today that he had hyperextended his knee.
He asked me how could it get any worse. I replied, hopefully it doesn’t get any worse.
I love Rak, I love his attitude, and I really love his game. He was shaping up to be a better E5. This is tragic. Hearts and prayers go out to him and his family.
If Rak truly misses next year
18-20 months seems to be an awfully long time to be out for an ACL tear. Certainly Fred Hina knows better than I but I just thought most athletes these days could come back in 10-11 months time with that type of injury. Perhaps they will just proceed more cautiously with Rak the second time around.
At any rate if that hold true..then for next year:
Out: Rak, KK, CS5, (maybe Swop)
In: Marra, Rozier, Hancock, fully healthy Blackshear, fully healthy Siva, not to mention fully healthy SVT, Gorgui (with 15-20 extra pounds), much improved Nunez and Price.
Alot of ifs in there but I would think the BB Cards are due for some good luck/karma in the injury department after all they have been through the last couple of years. Good luck to Rak. This season is not over but its hard to think how things won’t be better next season. Here’s hoping that bears out anyway.
I could be wrong
But I believe te extra time to recover for this one is due to the fact that his “good knee” isnt yet 100% from the same injury.
by 140sNotEnough on Jan 17, 2012 10:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Would you have sex with (make love to) a zebra
if it fixed Rak’s knee?
by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 17, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions
To fix all the injuries UofL has
We’d have to fuck the whole herd.
by Ellis from Compton on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 17, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Sick Johnny
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 18, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
If loving UL basketball enough to make love to a heard of burrs is sick
i don’t want to me well.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Can these kids just take HGH or something like that and let them heal faster?
Jesus christ! It’s right there!
Just got to this thread
but the injury thing has gone way beyond a statistical anomaly. I don’t know if it is the practices Pitino runs or what, but it just isn’t logical to blame this on bad luck. There has to be one or more factors that are at least contributing to what is happening to Louisville basketball players and their unbelievably high propensity to sustain an injury. We have had almost decades worth of injuries in one year.
by LouisvilleSklardinalFAN02 on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions
Feel unbelievably sad for him.
And for myself. I’ve been walking around like sad Charlie Brown and George Michael- collapsing into every room.
by bythesidewalk on Jan 17, 2012 11:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Well, time for Behanan to take the next step in his development
And couldn’t be better timing for a Van Tressy return. We’re about to go on an epic run that’ll have Joe Lunardi cursing us for having to make so many edits from week to week. Everyone just go and sleep this one latest blow off and come back tomorrow with some positive energy
Best wishes to Rak on a speedy recovery
Injuries are one area where the rivalry doesn’t matter. Here’s hoping everything goes well and he makes it back on the court.
Shit just got weird folks
I have never in my life seen any team have luck this bad. Im not even trying to point a finger at anyone, im just at a loss for words and feel bad for the team.
I swear there is a curse or something… Shit just isnt right. Pull out the voodoo dolls, Bibles, spells, chants, donkeys etc…. Something needs to be done to put and end to this misery.
I just fucking give up
"Winning gets you where you want to go"
-CS5-
:(
That’s all I have to say.
Yes, that is Mike Marra.
by TheRealSlimShady on Jan 18, 2012 1:45 AM EST reply actions
Horrible news
I truly feel bad for Rak. This has got to be the worst luck I have ever seen for a basketball team.
This is the Curse of the Ghost of Billy Minardi
Very little of this crap started happening until Quick Rick started banging a skank behind Minardi’s sister’s back.
Blaming the injuries on a dead man? Really? Is this what it's come to here? Come TF on guys.
Uncalled for.
I don’t mind bringing KS into the discussion when it comes to all the things that go into whether or not Rick should be our coach. I think it’s sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming LALALALALALALALALALA to think it’s not relevant to his standing in the community, with the University, and the fans,…. but gimme a break.
RIP Billy, I hope your kids don’t read this “blog”
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 18, 2012 9:47 AM EST reply actions
So many are quick to point a finger at CRP
What about the athletic trainers, strength coach, etc? Perhaps it’s these guys that should have answers? Hasn’t Pitino used the same crew since coming here? Always wondered about this…
its the shoes
I am starting to come to the conclusion that it is our shoes. I thinkknow there isThursday something about themit that isit causing unnatural stresses on ourthe players feet ankles and knees. I would really like to know what other teams wear the same footwear as the Cards and if they are experiencing a significant increase in lower limb injuries.
I know I am grasping, but the HAS to be some logical explanation for the occurences that have befallen our team.
by Card_in_Bama on Jan 18, 2012 11:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I don’t know what happened to my post, but it looks like jibberish. Sorry
by Card_in_Bama on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
ND, Cincy, Tennessee, and UCLA spring to mind off the top of my head.
Not aware of many injury issues with those teams.
by CardinalDude on Jan 18, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
UCLA and Notre Dame both have guys out for season with knee injuries from what I have found so far on thespread.com. Thats not taking into account ankle sprains. No idea how to find that info without searching through archives which I can’t do at the moment.
by Card_in_Bama on Jan 18, 2012 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not supporting nor dismissing the theory, but this week's NBA injury report list the following players who happen to wear adidas:
Rose, McGrady, Maggette, Dooling, Chalmers, Mbah a Moute…just to name a few.
Take any of that for what it’s worth, if anything. Just sharing information.
Stout Out!
I've said something about the shoes
I’m just a recreational ball player but my mom and I are serious runners. I have had shin splints when I switch what type of shoes that I run in. My mother also got a stress fracture shortly after switching what kind of shoes she runs in(this is after years of never having any serious problems). I don’t know if this is the case but I know from experience that differnt shoes can affect different in sports.
apparently Ware is injured now
Pitino is injuring people on purpose now so that he has an excuse for this season. That is a joke but seriously wtf
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