CRP on the Defensive!!!
by jbcard on Jan 14, 2012 1:45 PM EST
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Ok i understand. As a coach there is a lot of pressure. But at his tenure here at UOFL i believe this is the most pressure he has been under since becoming the head coach here. No we are not UK. No where near close to that. But first off we got the Yum Center. Which i hear is great. (Been awhile since i've been home) But we all know that fans wont watch crap. Remember that era of football with the coach who is not to be named. It ws so bad that even now Charlie is still tryna get the fans to buy all the way in again. Get people to be on time to the game. So a disappointing year follwed by another dip in recruiting and this could get ugly for us. And when the money stops rolling in. Tommy Boy steps in to fix it. Like Denny Crum, Like HWINTBN (he who is not to be named) So i do believe that coach is going to do everything he can do.
But he has been a bit defensive. The article written in the courier journal. Which most of the article is pure fact that anyone could see. I beleive that he is upset because the nation is seeing his failure. Last year was supposed to be the bridge year nobody expected us to do well. We did alright anyway. Now we got the class he said would change things. And Certain things haven't quiete gone our way. Really just injuries. But i think that the fans have seen how CRP arrogants effects his coaching. To be honest in my opinion if the fans hadnt seen and liked Russ as much as they did he probably wouldnt be playing. (again personel opinion) In that same thought i believe thats the reason Nunez doesnt play. I think he beleives that people will fall in love with his offensive ability,and won't see his defencies on defense. But i also think that it could be used for motivation for him. If your a true baller you want to be on the court. And a taste of success and the potential to be a fan favorite might motivate him to learn or try harder on the defensive end. Just saying it works sometimes.
But Rick is seeming to become more and more defensive as the season goes on. As the fans become more frustrated, and the team piles up the loses. Rick spoke about Procrastination in his tv show this morning about seeing something wrong and going to work on it immediately not waiting. So i do beleive that CrP has done that but i dont think he has built a reciepe for success. With the style of ball we play, we cant have a "system" that is simply reliant on two people who are going to pick up fouls. Siva is going to pick fouls and so is Gorgi. And without either one of those players the offense will look even worse than it has. So i would urge rick to find another way to get some offense going. I way that doesnt require us giving up size and toughness inside (like moving kyle tot he 4).
How is everyone watching the game cause i'm in conneticut and there not telvising the game up here. I cant get espn 3 because i have sprint internet
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Pitino's system is probably why most of the top recruits choose not to come here
I think you could give Rick a starting five of top 10 talent and he’d have them looking fundamentally horrible in record time. He’s too set in his ways and stuck on one style of ball. I think he should spend more time letting players simply play to their strengths, instead of forcing them to transition into roles in a system he feels is more suitable. That stuff works well for the two and three star recruits who need a coach to unlock their potential to play up to the best of their ability. Four and five stars have skill sets that are already established that need refining and tuning. But, Rick puts every player through the same stuff. The same “system”.
Look at Russ Smith. Perfect example. Pitino insisted on having him play the 1 spot to back up Peyton and he saw little to no playing time and didn’t show any potential in practice (Pitino’s words). It wasn’t until after Russ pleaded with him repeatedly to put him at the 2 that we finally saw what this kid is capable of doing.
Look at Samardo, Earl, Caracter, T-Will, and every other hot prospect that played subpar here. Caracter looked like a clown out there until he transferred. He flourished at Utep and found himself on the Lakers’ roster. He would’ve gone straight to Europe had he stayed here. Samardo seldomly looked a smidge of his recruiting hype here. That one game against Notre Dame a couple years ago. Went D-OT (of course) and he scored 38 points and was the only reason we won. That was the only time he looked like the guy we spent a year hearing about. When he left here and hit the summer camps he looked great and got a job with the Cavs. I haven’t followed him since then so don’t know what he’s been doing now, but that’s beside the point. T-Will was the “WTF are you doing!!?!?!?” guy until his senior year. Only then did he look like a true NBA prospect.
Then, there’s a Earl — A guy the media never failed to put over the moon at every given opportunity. I thought he looked like sh!t most of the time he was out there and never understood why he got all that hype. Where is he now? The Magic? I would’ve sworn he’d be Europe-bound when he left here. He must’ve shown the scouts something in the summer leagues.
I would never openly endorse anything John Calipari does, but he seems to let his kids play to their strengths (probably because he doesn’t really know how to actually coach, HA!). If you put Kentucky’s lineup on our floor under Rick, I really wonder how much crap-ball you’d see for 3 months until they finally picked up his system.
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I too think that Rick's system is what keeps many elite level recruits from coming here.
It doesn’t give them much playing time early as they try to learn it and forces them into roles that may not best utilize their skill set. Your example of Russ Smith is dead on.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 14, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
learning the system
Pitino keeps saying how it takes a long time to learn his system and be able to play. Stokes showed up at UT Monday and with four practices hit UK for 9 points and 4 rebounds. It would seem some systems are easier to learn than others. Perhaps we shouldn’t be recruiting basketball players. We should be recruiting chemical engineers and nuclear physicists.
Unfair to compare a 6-8 255 #11 rated recruit to someone like Nunez/Price
Has Behanan not started from day one?
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 15, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
That's ability.
I have no problem with CRP saying someone isn’t ready because they aren’t good enough (yet) or because their defense isn’t up to standards. He has said that on occasion, but he also has made references to players not having learned the system yet. I have problems with the latter statement, not the former ones.
well i have a problem
with hypocrites (probably misspelled but u dont care) Ware and blackshear get to go right in and play. Ware only had like a couple practices under his belt. So how does he know the defensive system or let alone the offensive system. And Blackshear also was hurt he might know the system but he hasnt played ball in a year so how would they be any more ready to play than Nunez. To me offensively Nunez has shown more offensive ability than either one of those players.
I disagree
Lord, your opinions are usually spot on, but I beg to differ here. Could you have made the same post if you were a UK fan between ‘89-’97? I think his elite players did well during/after college in that period. I also think his results were difficult to argue with, even pre-UK. I wish I could claim to know what’s going wrong here, but I can’t. The best guess I have is that what we see is the product of a raft of injuries the kind/number of which I’ve never seen/heard of before … difficult to put out a decent product under those circumstances. I do agree that CRP appears to be VERY stubborn and set in his ways, but I believe those “ways” have, all-in-all, held him in good stead.
No, I could not have made the same argument back then
Rick’s Kentucky teams were awesome. I was speaking primarily on his Louisville squads. Times are different now. Definitely not seeing the same clove of talent and development as was the case back then.
Maybe its age. Doesn’t matter what anyone says we they get older, you just don’t have the same drive and energy as you had when you were in your 20’s and 30’s. Plus, I think Rick second guesses himself a lot now as opposed to back then. Could be wrong, but I get that impression a lot from his conferences/interviews these days.
I still think he’s a great motivater, a good coach, and still wants to win. But, his recruiting abilities are definitely not what they used to be. The Rick of old would’ve convinced Telfair to go to school. The version we saw recruiting Telfair freely admitted he expected to lose him at one point. To me, that was pretty much giving up.
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by LORD KAYOSS on Jan 15, 2012 9:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am with you on this one.
I am a couple of years older than Rick and own a small business. And I can assure you I am more comfortable doing with I know best rather than taking on a lot of newer concepts. I do not disregard the newer stuff entirely, but I pretty much have to be dragged into it. I am simply more comfortable with doing things my way. I see a lot of that in Rick. And I see it as very normal, but maybe not the most productive path, especially in a very competitive environment.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 15, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest in my opinion if the fans hadnt seen and liked Russ as much as they did he probably wouldnt be playing. (again personel opinion) In that same thought i believe thats the reason Nunez doesnt play.
Seriously?
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 14, 2012 6:22 PM EST reply actions
i say that because..
of the comments that Rick made, and also last year. Last year all we heard was that Russ didnt want to pass the ball. And he was this and he was that. Even some this year. (i know he was hurt too a little too.) But it was still that people seen Russ and said he could really help us offensively and now he plays. So in my opinion i beleive that he hadnt been seen early combined with the obvious offensive struggles in my personel opinon i dont think CRP would be playing him.
You leave out defense in making that argument.
Russ is a true pickpocket. Nunez is a matador. That earned Russ some playing time and Nunez pine time.
ok but in that regard
Adding another body would only allow us to play more agrressively. And also Rick also said that they are going to be playing more zone, which would also benefit Nunez. But the main contribution i think that would motivate Nunez and would cause him to play better D is playing time. If he got on the court and then got yanked for not playing D he would put more effort into it. Some players are motivated differently than others and i think right now and from what ive seen from Nunez he simply is just waiting for this year to be over with so he can be utilized
so let's see here...
you’re conceding that Nunez is bad at defense, and yet you think a zone helps him? It’s been a few years, but last time I played organized competitive basketball an effective zone defense required better defenders.
And then you’re going to claim to know, better than the coach who sees him every day, what motivates Nunez? Give me a break.
by JohnTongEchoesinmyhead on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Who is this 4 year old "Kyle-tot"?
I like the sound of that! Is he on our radar? Bring him to the Yum! Start working on the boy’s skills now, little-man gonna be a baller in 14 more years!
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