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When it comes to DePaul Day, Madicyn Faith has just that...faith.

NPR tried to hire me to write the opening lines for some of their personality profile pieces, but I was like "where am I going to post all the pictures of kids and dogs that people send me?" The guy doing the interview hesitated for a second and so I bolted. Then I knocked over one of the vases in their waiting room. Then I wrote this post.


Spread check: Louisville by infinity.

Between the DePaul Day miracle two nights ago, the first real snow of the year yesterday and now the news that Wayne Blackshear is practicing and could play in two weeks, I'm convinced that this changed everything.

Oh we're on out way, I know we are. Somewhere not so far from here. All I know is all I feel right now, I feel DePaul Day growing in my hair.

That's right, we're starting a news and notes post with altered Cat Stevens lyrics. Don't worry, I'm going to work some Tyga in here in a little bit.

It was a big night for the Louisville connection of Jerry Smith and Preston Knowles (AKA "Jerry Knowles") on Thursday as Smith finished with 12 points, nine boards and nine assists, while Knowles scored a team-high 14 points and hit the game-winning 3-pointer.

There's visual proof of all of this right here.

I love you, Preston Knowles. I love you for sentimental and basketballmental reasons.

I'd also like to note that my spell checker did not find an error in "basketballmental." I'm now feeling like our relationship for the past year and-a-half has been a lie, unnamed MacBook.

Charlie Strong's 2012 recruiting class has now moved into ESPN's top 25. Louisville appears poised to again bring in the top class in the Big East.

CC Co-Men of the Year getting love in back-to-back Cardinal heads. I'm having '11 flashbacks.

Cards and Cats takes a look at some revealing bowl game statistics.

Bowl Record by Conference Since 2005-06 season

ACC: 24-34 (.413)

Big East: 24-13 (.649)

Big Ten: 21-34 (.381)

Big XII: 29-23 (.558)

PAC: 21-19 (.525)

SEC: 40-21 (.656)

BCS Record Since Inception Since 1998-1999 season

ACC: 2-13 (.133)

Big East: 7-7 (.500)

Big Ten: 12-13 (.480)

Big XII: 9-10 (.474)

PAC: 11-7 (.611)

SEC: 16-7 (.696)

These facts speak pretty loudly, but raise your hand if you think the Big East won't still be the main target of ridicule once college football talk heats up in the early summer.

Perception always trumps reality. Write just that sentence on any essay final you take in college and...well, you'll fail but you'll have an extra couple of hours to drink or play video games or something.

The 15th-ranked Louisville women's team took down South Florida last night, 63-57.

UAB's new football staff is chock-full of Cardinal connections as former U of L player/assistant Reggie Johnson joined Jeff Brohm, Brandon Sharp & Richard Owens on the Blazer staff last night.

Congratulations to Drew Deener, who earlier this week was named Kentucky Sportscaster of the Year.

Members of the committee overseeing the award informed me that Deener was honored despite his unwillingness to refer to Elisha Justice as "the hottest male athlete in the world" on air. Apparently it wasn't a strong year for sportscasters in the Commonwealth.

In all seriousness, congratulations to Drew.

Google News is always spot-on with their picture selections.

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Louisville is an eight seed in the new CBS Bracketology.

First round game against Xavier? Been there, wasn't cool. Potential second round game against Duke? Also been there, equally uncool.

Linebacker commit Nick Dawson was dropped from a four-star prospect to a three-star prospect on Thursday by Rivals/Scout wannabe 247sports.com. It's the same sudden and inexplicable loss of talent that Teddy Bridgewater suffered when he was dropped from a five-star to a four-star following his commitment to Louisville last December.

I wish recruiting sites would just cut the bullshit and not even rate these kids until they commit somewhere. It'd be a lot more genuine than taking a power forward no one has ever seen play and inserting him into your top 100 at No. 37 three days after he committed to Duke.

Chris Smith talked after the Notre Dame game about players listening to their families instead of Rick Pitino. Maybe he was talking about himself because apparently if you don't listen to his sister she will drop your ass.

We need something to get Mr. Buckles out of his recent funk. Maybe this will help:

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Throwin' hunneds, hunneds.

Terrence Williams is again dealing with some professional adversity, but this time he's handling it in a far more mature fashion.

Bill Connelly lists the top 100 games of the 2011 college football season. Louisville's win over West Virginia makes the list, as does its losses to Florida International and NC State in the Belk Bow.

Rutgers blog Cardiac Hill thinks Louisville will represent the Big East in the BCS next season.

A huge win for Steve Masiello and Manhattan last night as they knocked off MAAC favorite Iona at the buzzer. The Jaspers have already won five more games under Masiello than they did all last season.

The definitive "Tim Tebow as a Centaur" post of our era (OMG what does this have to do with Pitino!?).

Preston Knowles on playing for Rick Pitino:

"It's not a high school program, and playing (for U of L) is not for the faint of heart," he said. "You have to treat it as a business. Basically you're just there to do your schoolwork and play basketball. Anything else is putting stress on your body as far as staying out, going out to clubs or hanging out.

"Honestly, that's how it should be. You're a Division I basketball player."

Knowles said U of L players are never at 100 percent - "you're playing at 80 percent like the whole season" - because they practice so hard so often. He said it makes the team tougher but leaves it susceptible to a performance like Tuesday's.

"That's Coach P's forte," Knowles said. "He plays hard, he's going to outwork people and he's going to outtough people. It's a mind-set. It's tough playing there. You love playing for Louisville, but going that hard and that intense every day, basically six or seven times a week, it can wear on you."

And then this from Denny Crum:

"Whether it's right or wrong, Rick's got the reputation of overworking his kids," Crum said. "And I don't know if that's true or not - I have no way to know that. I don't go to their practices and stuff, so I have no idea what they're doing."

My only response to all of that is thank God we play DePaul on Saturday, because I don't even want to think about what I would be reading Saturday night if this team were to take another L.

And finally, beat DePaul.

That was a past-tense, declarative statement, not one of encouragement.

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much like last year

your next keg is on me if we lose to Depaul

by Leigh on Jan 13, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

I realize Madicyn's mom/sister/friend's hand is in motion

but the spread check between her thumb and fingers is approaching infinity as well.

by ptichenor1 on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

Basketballmental

I will be using this word a lot in the future.

by WattersonWoodsWes on Jan 13, 2012 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

This statement makes me wonder if altering practices to allow my players to perform at closer to 100% would not be a better plan.

If this was a business, and you told the CEO that something we were intentionally doing was causing all of the employees to functioning at only 80% of their potential, can anyone believe that the CEO would not consider doing whatever he could to maximize their performance. So shouldn’t everything the coaches do be geared toward maximizing the players performance?

by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

it would be considered, to be sure. however

It’s a tough call between a) playing at 80% all season long to be able to get closer to 100% potential by the end of the season or b) playing at 90-100% all season long while possibly not working hard enough to reach 100% potential by season’s end.

by Justin Gingey Smith on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

how is that?

eventually your body adjusts (somewhat) to a grueling pace and starts to keep up. I think the idea would be your 80% at the start of the year would be equivalent to 60% by the end of the year. 60.38% if you want to be technical about it.

by Justin Gingey Smith on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

That's not true, your muscles require rest to grow.

That’s exercise science 101. From a fatigue standpoint you might adjust to the pace after a while because you simply have no choice, but continuous workout without rest is not optimal for muscle growth.

by James Sutherland on Jan 13, 2012 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If you're talking about strength training, yes.

You can do aero every day, for hours a day.

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 15, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I've got an idea,... why don't you call into Rick's show next week and suggest that he take it easy on the guys and see if it helps.

Oh no, wait,….. he doesn’t really give a dam what anyone living outside of his mind thinks.

I’m now convinced that one of our biggest problems is that Ralph Willard isn’t on this staff; and, neither is anyone else with the balls/ moxie to tell Rick when they think he’s handling a player/ situation the wrong way.

Fool's names are like their faces, often seen in public places.

by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

You're right, of course.

He really should take the advice of every fan calling into talk radio.

Because they have so many final fours and national championships to their credit.

I don’t think I need snark marks there, do I?

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 15, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

BRING IT, BLACKSHEAR!!

very excited to get a glimpse of what this guy might be capable of.

by Justin Gingey Smith on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

I was at the ND game and watched only Blackshear during the shoot around

The kid didn’t miss. Granted that’s just a shootaround but I literally didn’t see him miss a shot and I was watching him for awhile. It’ll be refreshing to have a bigger player (as in bigger than Russ or Peyton) who can create his own shot and posterize some people with that 6’10.5" wingspan of his.

by CardiacCards on Jan 13, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

When Marra

was playing, he rarely missed shots in the shootaround… However that didn’t really translate to him making baskets in the game…. I’m pumped to see Blackshear on the court soon and hopefully he can make it translate.

by ChowWow on Jan 13, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I find this to be very upsetting, on a few different fronts.

1. WTF?

2. This isn’t the first time we’ve hears a player, current or former, say this.

3. Seems CL is now starting to question Rick’s methods. He didn’t actually say it, but to bring the issue to people’s attention like that, in several different ways, would seem to indicate that at the very least he thinks it’s worth talking about.

4. What the hell does John Wooden know anyway?

Former coach Denny Crum said during an interview with WHAS-11 on Wednesday that the players just looked tired. He said he learned from his mentor, John Wooden, that "there’s nothing you can learn at this stage of the season that is more important than having fresh legs."

5. WTF???

Fool's names are like their faces, often seen in public places.

by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

The Wooden quote is like a punch in the gut.

Talk about getting it from the man himself. We need players that are coached to be at maximum performance levels, not 80%. I’ve read that Olympic coaches take this very much into account as they need for their athletes to be at the absolute peak of performance on a specific day or days. The objective is to reach that peak of performance, not to just see how much conditioning you can do. After all, isn’t the objective to outperform the opponent?

by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 13, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Wooden also said nothing correlates with winning more than FG%

and that statement was ridiculed in this forum when it was brought up.

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 15, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally, I would not argue with that Woodenism either but wouldn't fresh legs logically result in better FG%?

And he coached before the 3Pt shot which distorts that stat somewhat as a lower percentage of 3 point shots can result in more points than a higher percentage of 2 point shots. This was not the case in Wooden’s time and makes a difference.

by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 15, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

What's the status on Wayne Klumpshear?

Can we get a FatTracker like the stat tracker in my Yahoo Fantasy league?

by cardchomp on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Interesting quote by Preston

He is understandably defending his coach and saying the hard work should not matter, but then he says…

“but going that hard and that intense every day, basically six or seven times a week, it can wear on you.”

Which just backs up the position that RP is overworking the kids.

There is no denying the injury record.

Denny also said…

Former coach Denny Crum said during an interview with WHAS-11 on Wednesday that the players just looked tired. He said he learned from his mentor, John Wooden, that "there’s nothing you can learn at this stage of the season that is more important than having fresh legs."

Boeheim’s quote is pure loyalty and total bulls shit. The notion that 19 and 20 years olds cannot be over worked and chronic muscle fatigue set is is ludicous and flies in the face of not only common sense, but science as well.

In this day all top programs have experts and conditioning programs that keep their athletes in top condition. The notion that RP thinks his teams can out work other top teams is purely ego driven and shows just how much he is not in touch with reality.

There is a limit to how much anyone’s body can take and be in top shape. There is a point of deminishing return no matter who you are. If you go past that point you get chronic fatigue which results in loss of coordination (can’t hit an open shot) and increased risk of injury. Then there is the mental aspect on top of that to snowball the effect.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

He's not thinking that.

He is removed from the situation and is just giving a blind statement of support based in nothing but loyalty.

His assistant was not abusing kids either. Just ask him….oops.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what you mean by not cool.

I just pointed out Boeheim has a history of making statements of blind support.

I am not in anyway making light of sexual abuse.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm sure you meant no harm

but it’s unnecessary to bring that up to make your point.

by Justin Gingey Smith on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

My apologies if I offended anyone.

Certainly not my intention.

I am aware that there could be victims on this very site and I mean no harm to them or to anyone else.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Mostly I have just been saying...

that we have a troubled coach and that trouble is spilling onto the court also. Its just getting to the point where people cannot deny it anymore.

Lots of people wanted to deny the things I was saying while burying their heads in the sand. Kill the messenger. For me the handwriting was on the wall a long time ago.

There will be a comeback of some level this year. Greatness is virtually out of the question. The man does not have it anymore. He has lost touch. He is deperate and panicking about his legacy and completely lost in his ego.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's get a CC Telethon going!

And raise money for some worthy cause or something like new helmets for bball practice. X amount of dollars for every pound Blackshear loses until he’s at playing weight. Get your check books out, let’s do this!

by cardchomp on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

One and dones

That doesn’t mean players, it means NCAA. Could our recent early exits be due to wear down fatigue? Just asking.

by cbcard on Jan 13, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

Mr. Buckles funk relief

I see what you did there. And I liked.

Seriously though. I hate to say it, but right now, he’s killing us (ok, well he’s sure not doing anything to help us). I love me some Buckles, but he’s not been the same since his return. His development could be a major positive (or negative) for this team. His athleticism adds another dynamic to the floor, and we need a 4th person to garner some attention (after Siva, Kuric, and Dieng). Defenses are scheming accordingly, and nobody has made them pay; Buckles and/or Swopshire could be difference makers, if they’d come out of their “funks”.

We really have to take care of business Saturday.

Go Cards.

by Slickvic621 on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I am with you on Buckles 100%

I really expected him to be a game changer for us but he just has not looked good at all. And I’ve noticed that as soon as he is inserted into the lineup, he does something immediately (usually bad) – takes a poor shot, commits a foul, etc. It looks like he is trying to force something to happen right away, regardless of the situation, and not letting the game come to him.

I still love his rebounding ability and his shot (prior to the injury shot), but we need him to perform like the old Buckles, and we need it now.

by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

He takes bad shots and commits dumb fouls because he's overconditioned.

Isn’t that obvious?

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 15, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure where this is coming from. What I said is..............

“It looks like he is trying to force something to happen right away, regardless of the situation, and not letting the game come to him.” Personally, I think his mindset may be to try to quickly establish to the coaching staff that he’s back and ready to contribute right away. Maybe to earn his starting position back, or at least get more playing times.

by Carolina Cardinal on Jan 15, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

What's 80% of infinity?

"Free throws don't win and lose games." -John Calipari

by AllHailUofL on Jan 13, 2012 12:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

On Blackshear

So having a shoulder injury means no control of diet and no cardio workouts????

WTF? He was still on the team the entire time wasn’t he? He was still on scholorship the entire time wasn’t he?

Rusty? Sure he would be rusty.

10 lbs over weight?

WHY?

No RP BS here… is there?

Maybe its the same reason we were not ready to play man D agaisnt Prov.

(why was that again we were not ready?)

Makes perfect sense to me.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

If Rak City doesn’t turn his season around, there is no hope

Yes, that is Mike Marra.

by TheRealSlimShady on Jan 13, 2012 12:41 PM EST reply actions  

Not too sure this can go on HCRP

Kuric stepped on CS5’s foot. Not too much anyone can do about that. Can happen in a summer pickup game. Someone else will have to step up.

by CardChakra on Jan 13, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I can never say what injury is RP's fault

The point is that over worked muscles get chronic fatigue and lose coordination which results in missteps (stepping on a foot, or a ball as Preston did last year) as well as the muscle not being able to absorb shock as well without tearing. In other words if the muscle is not worn out then he may be able to step on the foot and the muscle can handle it instead of tearing menaing no injury occurs with the same action.

Its basic science.

The overall number of injuries is what is damning.

One could never say what specific injuries may have or not have not occured as a result of overworking the players. Some injuries will occur no matter what.

One can only say that on average there would be many less.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

RP says he is not changing so...

expect the injuries to keep coming.

That is my prediction. It is not bad luck.

Maybe you think I have a crystal ball?

I said before the season this would happen. I don’t have a crystal ball.

Its a no brainer and an easy call.

No bad karma…just bad coaching.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Science is not BS

Maybe you just don’t like hearing the truth.

Do you have a better explanation? Bad luck?

Yeah…..that’s it. Bad luck.

Sure. That is the BS. I am speaking the truth.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you have a degree in physiotherapy and biomechanics?

If no, you’re speaking amateur opinion and deserve no more consideration than anyone else. Science is indeed not BS, but forgive me when I say that I think you get your opinion and ‘the truth’ mixed up more than a little while commenting on this blog.

by bartenpa on Jan 13, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No I am a certified massage therapist

So yes I am professionally trained in anatomy, physiology, muscle injury and the causes of muscle injuries, chronic muscle fatigue and how to spot the signs of it.

My training crosses over with both of the fields that you mention, but those are not my specific areas of expertise, and those are higher levels of training and with a different focus.

To answer your question…no, I am not an amateur.

If you have a better explanation I am all ears.

Bad luck? BS

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

If you have any empirical evidence beyond your (admittedly informed) opinion

I’d be glad to hear it. That’s what science is, bud. It’s coming up with a theory and then doing your damndest to disprove it, not just come up with an idea you think could be true and shouting it from the rooftops.

When you do a little legwork and compare our relative injury rates to those of other teams, make a spreadsheet and come back with some results, that’s when I’ll start treating what you’re saying as ‘the truth’.

The burden is on YOU to prove your case, not us to disprove your opinion. Ball’s in your court, bud.

by bartenpa on Jan 13, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Law school student? Young lawyer?

Yeah…no doubt.

The science behind my comments involving the increased risk of injury due to muscle fatigue is solid.

My comments are that appearances lend that it is apparent that this is at play with the U of L basketball team. The odds of having that kind of bad luck are….um…any statiticians here? Ok…I’ll go out on a limb and say astronomical. Especially taken into account the comments of the players, and the reputation for the practices being brutal. Circumstantial eveidence? It is admissable in court.

But this is a blog forum anyway, not a court of law….bud.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It's your constant post that says the same thing.

Like someone else said, you should just create a fan post with your thoughts and link it on every reply because you just keep saying the same shit over and over.

I’m not saying I don’t disagree or agree with everything you say. But it is really annoying listen to a cry baby about the same thing in 50 posts in the same thread.

-Dustin

by Civicman86 on Jan 13, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

science is not BS

but pseudoscience is.

You can’t do circuit training or free weights every day but you can run your ass off. Aero/cardio workouts do not cause chronic fatigue.

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 15, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Have you read the paper or listened to the radio lately?

I am not the only one saying it.

Usually I end up answering different people who are arguing with me. So I end up repeating myself in different replies

And does Rutherford not say pants off over and over? As well as a bunch of other things over and over? Chicken to the bucket?

Well mine is Pitino over works the players and hurts them.

I’m not the only one who repeats myself. You just don’t like my message.

Maybe from now on I will just say “I told you so” when it keeps happening over and over and over again.

Speaking of things that happen over and over again. I think the injury rate may actually exceed my posting about it.

by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

people run in basketball. Screens are set. Legs get tangled. People fall on a hard surface.

These kids aren’t doing anything more than playing basketball. Put that with the fact they play infinitely more basketball on a day to day basis than any of us the injury statistics will be skewed. All things that have happened to our team as far a injuries are basketball injuries. Ankle sprains from stepping on another player’s foot, “concussions” (which are headline new now, so every team MD is going to be ‘better safe than sorry’ on) from knocking noggins or falling on the floor, and Marra’s injury was in a game and was a freak knee injury that happened to Jason White at Oklahoma twice. Athletic guys doing athletic things. Have to look at your sample population to get a good view on the stats. People that play a fast paced, full contact game with no padding will have more injuries. Wayne’s injury wasn’t even from when he played for HCRP. Happened in high school. That HCRP’s fault too? Rak getting his finger caught in the basket had to be HCRP’s fault, right? Makes no sense. Blame who you’d like, but I for one, don’t see it that way, and this team will prove you wrong. Go Cards.

by CardChakra on Jan 13, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm looking at the sample population of watching U of L basketball for 48 years

And you can throw UK in there too for about 45.

I have NEVER seen the injury rate so high as it has been for THREE YEARS IN A ROW!

Is is purely coincidence the injury rate went threw the roof at exactly the same time Pitino put himself in the pressure cooker with the scandal?

Probably. The true likely cause is a voodoo practicing UK fan just started twisting the ankles and bashing the heads of their U of L player dolls about the same time.

Much more likley explanation.

by scorpiocard on Jan 14, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Here we go with the sypher thing again

"I am willing to donate to the charity that is working on the prevention of whatever the hell Dick Vitale has." - noobmaster

by rickmbari on Jan 15, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Love the shoutout

But we’re a Pitt blog. You won’t be finding any fake tans or guidos on Cardiac Hill (at least I hope not)

Cardiac Hill contributor

by oaklandzoo12 on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

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