FIU 24 - Louisville 17: Too Young for TY
by UL is my hot hot sex on Sep 9, 2011 10:26 PM EDT
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PrintFive first half thoughts:
1. Pick-six on Louisville's first drive was the second-worst start imaginable after avoiding a TY Hilton opening kickoff return for TD
2. Speaking of which, TY Hilton was the fastest man on the field tonight and made Louisville's secondary look very Sun Beltish in the first half
3. The running game had a couple good moments but as the game wore on, FIU all but shut it down
4. Dexter Heyman came to play, so there's that
5. Nice composure by Stein to lead the offense down the field for seven points as the half wound down but overall the offense did not execute well enough to beat anyone left on the schedule
Five second half thoughts:
1. The momentum was there for the taking and Louisville gift-wrapped it back to FIU with a vanilla three-and-out drive after the halftime break; result for each of the first four UofL drives in second half: Punt, punt, turnover on downs, turnover on downs
2. TY Hilton's impressive one-handed diving catch put him over 200 yards receiving on the night...with four minutes left in the third quarter
3. Awful third quarter on offense; FIU had completely contained UofL's running game but yet Sanford wasn't convinced: 10 running plays for 18 yards in the third quarter with four passes mixed in for 43 yards
4. After grabbing some momentum at the start of the fourth quarter through the air, Sanford inexplicably dialed up four straight running plays and the Cards turned the ball over on downs on the FIU seven-yard line (most violence-inducing sequence of the game)
5. Hey, at least this wasn't on ESPN and the only live football game on TV...$(*%)%@)%@_*(%*@(
There weren't many things to praise Friday night, but the Cards' young receiving corps is very talented, the defense only gave up three points in the second half and the next couple years could be very fun. This season, however might be longer than many thought.
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Its not so much the play calling...
as it is players that cannot execute the plays.
Our OL is HORRIBLE!
SIX SACKS! Gets totally punked TWICE when trying to gain ONE YARD in the red zone with the game on the line.
Stein will never be confused with a superstar, but for those that want Teddy now, would you rather see him run for his life and get sacked instead of Stein? Would you rather Teddy hand off to the RB just before the RB gets stuffed?
We have SERIOUS problems with our OL. SERIOUS!
We are in trouble.
This is an area I think HCCS should have looked hard at Jucos.
no doubt...i think our defense will win games.....as long as the offense.....well plays offense
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
The headline here has to be the play/non-play of the offensive line - on BOTH run and pass plays.
I thought Stein was not that bad considering he was running for his life every play.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
Not sure I get it's relation to the play of the o-line.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Stein has to go
If our O-line can’t protect the pocket for 1.5 seconds, we need someone who can move
If our line can't protect the pocket for 1.5 seconds, it doesn't matter who is in at QB.
by PaulRogersIsMyHomeboy on Sep 9, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Or that an inexperienced QB would have panicked under pressure and thrown the ball into coverage.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but the better solution is to provide better protection. When Stein had time to make the reads, who threw the ball well.
by PaulRogersIsMyHomeboy on Sep 9, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He does
He was really horrible.
Mike, get over your Trinity-lovin self.
by GOCARDSATTITUDE on Sep 9, 2011 10:56 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
30 of 43 for 349 yards and 2 TD
Those are Drew Brees-like numbers. You can’t say a guy was horrible when he was running around for his life the entire game and still completed nearly 70% of his passes. Anybody who says that Will Stein is the problem was obviously watching a different game. TB has got alot of talent, but he would not have put up those same numbers.
by ebhardwick on Sep 10, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not Stein's fault. I don't love Trinity
Too many uneducated fans here want a QB savior. \
A QB with no OL cannot do much of anything, no matter who they are.
Teddy would have been a dear in the headlights.
GCA thinks he would have been a dear
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
I am an uneducated football fan,
but I want more Teddy.
by GOCARDSATTITUDE on Sep 11, 2011 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions
State of the Cardinal Union
We need to fire our football and basketball coaches. We have the best facilities in the country and the worst product.
I hope you are joking!
They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds.
by LvillefaninLex on Sep 9, 2011 10:37 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
OH NO.
OH NO YOU DID-NT
by GOCARDSATTITUDE on Sep 9, 2011 10:57 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
It's like...
why are we bringin Ricky P into this? Why is ClayAbles1 bringing Peypey into this Have they lost their minds!? Leave my precious gems alone!
by GOCARDSATTITUDE on Sep 9, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Needless. Pointless. Thoughtless...
Comments get you no respect in here. NOT UP IN HERE!!!
Head of ADHD Operations
by tnatburks on Sep 10, 2011 9:30 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
You've just been fired by Card Nation.
Pack your shit and all Card apparel may be donated to other fans who have not lost their minds.
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Sep 10, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I am so POd
This game should have been won by us. This team has no heart, I’m done.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
you sir...need to stop. its the second game of the season. no heart? i'd say you have no heart if you give up this quickly.
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
by Nick146 on Sep 9, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ND lost their opener...OPENER...you think their fans are acting lik you are right now? nope
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
Hey bud,
We got hammered by FIU. No heart is not being able to fight back when down, not being able to get it done in crunch time. Thanks for calling me out as a fan btw, you can pretend this team will win 8 games, see how that goes after the UK game.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
i never said they'd win 8 games....but i'm not the one saying a team i believe in has no heart. that was you
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
we lost by 1 TD and won in every category....i wouldn't say we got hammered
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
We were never actually in the game.
No excuse for being down 18 to a team headed to the Pizza Bowl or the GMAC Bowl.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
You're right. I don't.
But I do know that if this keeps up, we’re home for the holidays.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
The team that played tonight doesn't win 4 games. Not with this line.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
My God you are right. Here's our schedule.
UK-enigma at this point- I’ll go 75/25 loss
UNC-Loss 75/25
Marshall- 60/40 win
Cincy-Loss 75/25
Rutgers-60/40 win
Syracuse- Enigma at this point probably loss if this keeps up
@WVU- 90/10 loss
Pitt-80/10 loss
UConn- 50/50 win
USF-90/10 loss
Seriously. We’re looking at a 3 or 4 win team.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
That's the way I see it UNLESS we fix the O-line problem.
And I’d make Rutgers more like 50/50. They have looked a lot better than us so far and they will likely have more size on their D line than FIU.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Wishful thinking my friend...
I sound like scorpiocard with Pitino….
But seriously, its time to get out of lala land. This is a major bridge year.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
Like I said, this will be a reat test for Coach Strong. If he can fix this, he's a genius.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I am really sick of Sanford.
And I was a defender for a loooooong time. Nocreativeness, lackof common sense, failure to design anything out of the ordinary…
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
It didn't take a genius to see that our line had NO push on running plays
And couldn’t pass protect. Seems to me our only chance was quick passes (slants, outs, and screens) or rollouts by Stein. That is sad but clearly, nothing else was there.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
self portrait?
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
Get back to me when HCCS has been here 10 years AND
is getting paid $4M a year, can’t consistantly keep his team even in the top 25, only goes to bowls three times (the equivalent of getting past the first weekend of the NCAA only three times) and embarasses the program and fans with his sleezy banging of a woman he has only known for about 2 hours in a closed restaurant.
Ain’t gonna happen with HCCS. He is a class act. Not a self serving slimeball snake oil salesman.
by scorpiocard on Sep 10, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Im okay
I just have to vent sometimes.
I’m trying to have a positive attitiude about this coming basketball season. LOTS of talent.
The coach doing anything with it (in the NCAA) 50/50 at best.
I hoping he shuts me up.
by scorpiocard on Sep 10, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish somebody would
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
It wasn't me that brought it up
I am fine with dropping it.
by scorpiocard on Sep 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you have to make EVERYTHING about your hatred for Pitino?
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
I was replying to a post that referenced the me/Pitino
and compared it to the frustration with the football team.
I dont “hate” RP by the way. I don’t like him however.
by scorpiocard on Sep 10, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
For someone who doesn't hate him
you sure jump on every chance to badmouth him.
I’d hate to see how you treat people you do hate.
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
Actually hate is not somthing I really have in me
Its about performance (lack there of). I have said that MANY times.
But lets drop it really.
Its football season.
by scorpiocard on Sep 10, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Either pure fantasy or the odds that they miss the plane and don't show up Other that that...............
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 10, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually,
It’s the idea due to the Theory of Universal Spaghettiness that the universe will explode after the first spaghetti noodle is thrown on 10/15/11.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
Time to mature yourself HorsePigg
I can hear you are bitter, but its not heart they lack…its talent.
Our OL flat out SUCKS.
I SEE HOW IT IS.
You spell my name with two g’s and expect me to mature? NEVER.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
OK, now for the serious comment.
Hernandez just epitomized the game for me from the standpoint of the offensive line. He needs to figure out if he has anyheart or not, because he just gave up in the second half.
The whole heart thing is just how we were punched in the mouth by smaller guys and couldn’t punch back, couldn’t recover, etc.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
Maybe he was worn out.
We have no back ups to speak of. He had to be beat.
by scorpiocard on Sep 10, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention...
he was playing against players bigger, faster and stronger than him.
That, and no back up.
Its not lack of heart. Its lack of talent and lack of depth.
by scorpiocard on Sep 10, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope. At 6'4" and 294 he is bigger than ANY FIU D-lineman
So it;s not size, it’s a combination of lack of talent and lack of speed and questionable attitude
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 10, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
pot, meet kettle
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
Sorry but your attitude is piss poor.
So I guess every team that loses one game (i mean hell if you can’t win them all then you can’t get it done during crunch time) has no heart? Get the f outta here.
-Dustin
Not trying to start a argument or anything,
But I think I disagree with you. I feel like this team shows a lot more heart than the krag coached guys. That just my opinion though, what in particular makes you say they don’t have heart? I’m asking because maybe you saw something missed.
They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds.
by LvillefaninLex on Sep 9, 2011 10:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We're Louisville fans who lived through the Kragthorpe era. We know what incompetence looks like.
That’s not this team’s problem. This team’s problem is starting five new O-lineman and having a former walk on as our starting QB.
by PaulRogersIsMyHomeboy on Sep 9, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree, but my concern is that some of those o-linemen didn't look inexperienced, they looked totally out classed.
They were consistently beaten on pass plays often not even make any initial contact with the defender to even slow them down, much less actually block them. ESPN showed two replays where the defender went around 73 and 75 without being touched. And not because they were blocking someone else. They were slow on their feet (also the cause of the procedure penalties of the last two weeks), trying to get a step ahead. And on running plays they were not able to push back even smaller linemen. In short, they were BADLY outclassed on both run and pass plays CONSISTENTLY all night. And, if these are the best we’ve got, this is going to be a very long and painful season.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
And I too am PO'd but it's ALL at the O-line. I like our running backs and receivers and think our defense is young but talented.
In short, they will improve. And Stein, though not great is acceptable. However, after watching this O-line for two games, someone needs to give me a ray of hope to hold on to because I sure haven’t seen it. I know Benevides will hopefully be back but we have a lot of O-line problems, not just one guy.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
We need a big play threat as well.
I don’t know what was going on with Bellamy, if someone who was at home watching could fill me in, that would be great.
VA and Wright have no hole to run through, so their damage will have to be done on KOs.
We have a nice group of WRs. That’s our hope for this season as of today. No real vertical threat that strikes fear into those who cover him, you know, like how Trent Guy could just out burn you for a touchdown.
Will Stein is decent, but not really a huge threat.
So yeah, we need someone like TY Hilton. I have a feeling that Lamb kid or Eli Rogers/ DeVante Parker could be like him one day, but we’re talking this year.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
You and I are on the same page here my friend. And I think Parker and Rogers can be a deep threat, but....
that will require a QB to set his feet and have the time to make that throw and with this O-line, that ain’t happening. With this O-line our best plays will be swing passes, quick slants and outs, and screens to negate their rush. Also, Steins scrambling ability will be absolutely required as he will be running for his life most of the time and I doubt he has the strength to really get a lot on a deep ball while scrambing.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I just feel like I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel.
I felt so much promise coming into this season. And it’s gone after two games.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
Promise based on what?
Even in the “Train speech” Bedford said this year could be a tough one.
Take the blinders off. The coaches have been saying all along they were concerned.
Selective listening will never prepare you for reality my friend.
by scorpiocard on Sep 10, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I more or less felt
Like maybe some of the young guys could really gel and get a very small (VERY) peak of what the next year could be like in an up-and-down 6-6 season. But this team has been nothing but an abomination.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
It has not been the team.
It has been the O LINE and only the O LINE.
It was a blown play or two on Defense this game, but our D kept us within reach. If it wasn’t for the pick 6, we’d have gone to OT.
It wasn’t the receivers – that I remember anyway. Stein wouldn’t have had the numbers he did if they weren’t good. Stein missed some easy ones earlier on in the game, but that’s likely a result of not even slowing down the defenders on the pass rushing.
It wasn’t VA or Wright – It was the O LINE that let pressure get to these two (or whoever else was going to attempt to run the ball) BEHIND the line of scrimmage and almost before it was able to be handed off.
When Mario gets in we can shift everyone around and get Hernandez out, right? I mean he looked like he wasn’t anywhere near that game yesterday…
We put up enough numbers to win this game. We dominated – or at least were when last I heard Passing and rushing yards and every aspect of the game but the scoreboard. The Offense gave up NLT 7 of those points… but it wasn’t the entire offense – it was primarily on the O-LINE. Fix some shortcomings there and this could be a salvageable year IMHO.
We need Benavides healthy
which will get Hernandez out of the LT spot where he was glaringly inadequate last night.
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
UK is not that good either
But our lack of depth and talent on the OL is a curse we will live with the entire season.
My first criticism of HCCS. I wondered before the season why he did not pick up a couple of decent Juco O linemen.
Now I am REALLy wondering.
My worst fears about this team have come true.
The OL is in for a season long ass kicking. Even with ALL the players healthy.
by scorpiocard on Sep 10, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
IKR
One thing Kragthorpe was heavily cricized for is bringing in lots of JUCOs.
Now the opposite philosophy is biting us in the rear end.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
I meant monsters because SEC lineman will seem like monsters compared to Sun Belt lineman.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
Love POed
Some of em have heart.
DEX??? Cmon. What about Dex.
by GOCARDSATTITUDE on Sep 9, 2011 10:58 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
people upset coach strong is so calm? i bet he walks in that locker room is just like...
a dissapointed father that you just know…you just know shit is about to hit the fan..but not tonight….go home…be up at 4am tomorrow…and you’re gonna get whipped with a brand new leather metal studded belt with holes all through it.
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
Brings back horrible memories!
They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds.
by LvillefaninLex on Sep 9, 2011 10:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Part of me wants to think that this, THIS, is the rock-bottom from the Kragthorpe era we've all been waiting for.
HCCS Charlie Strong, the players, will never say it. But everyone feels it. Last year was the high of a new coach with some seriously talented seniors. This year we’re a bit depleted by graduation, injury, and youth. We’ll take some knocks, no question. But look at the glimpses these new recruits are giving us. Remember all the off-season talk about those workouts. These guys are committed to the system, the staff, and the idea of Louisville first. I want to see improvement over the course of the season, building to the next. Yep, this hurts. What will hurt more is if we’re playing like this through Big East play at the end of the season.
by centre_card on Sep 9, 2011 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
Fans are pissed. Let them vent. They’ll wake up tomorrow, spend time with their families, and get a little ribbing from UK fans who have a team that doesn’t look any better than ours. No where to go but up.
by PaulRogersIsMyHomeboy on Sep 9, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Shockingly
No UK fans ribbed me at all. Actually a few only really commented on how good TY is. I got no shitty texts or phone calls. I couldn’t believe it.
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Sep 10, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
This is no excuse
but Ty Hilton may have been the fastest guy on any field tonight… No one came close to catching him
No doubt about that. That;s why I'm excited to see our speedster Corvin Lamb.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Hilton didn't break any tackles. Couldn't get close enough to him to tackle him.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he was referring to corvin lamb breakign tackles...like vic and wright struggled to do
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
You can't expect them to break tackles
when they get the ball and are already surrounded by 3 defenders.
by CardinalDude on Sep 9, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Wright broke a few tackles tonight
The RBs showed toughness but can’t be expected to make their own holes when they’re getting hit behind the line of scrimmage every play.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Sep 9, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
simmer down boys..i said struggled....i know they did work. and i know its not their fault
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
he was by far the fastest! Not maybe.
They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds.
by LvillefaninLex on Sep 9, 2011 10:48 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
we get scruggs healthy our D-Line completely changes....he's crucial
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
D-Line wasn't a glaring weakness though
with the exception of blowing two playes on TY, we played pretty well against them.
Feed was sketchy again but caught a couple quips from Strong's post-game press conference:
On UK: “We have to go play ‘em. We have to regroup. We have to tell our guys we can’t accept losing.”
On early deficit: “We weren’t shell-shocked at all, it was more disappointing knowing where Hilton is and still giving up big plays.”
by UL is my hot hot sex on Sep 9, 2011 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
did he say why bellamy didn't get utilized more? and teddy only got one go? where was scruggs.
we have oh so many questions!!!
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
only heard the last couple questions, sorry
by UL is my hot hot sex on Sep 9, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i doubt any of that was talked about tonight. its all good.
i’m sure i coudl answer those questions…scruggs and bellamy both have had injuries and teddy…well he’s not that starter and we weren’t winning
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
Why stop throwing to Chichester???
Too many Stein passes. Too many Stein passes batted down.Running game great when not predictable (many motion players looked confused on early 1st half run plays). Play Teddy more, a lot more.
Realistically with Wright and Anderson in the backfield Stein shouldn’t be throwing 15-20 per game. The problem is we have an unbelievably talented wr corp, esp the young guys (harris,parker, rogers) that are sick. Can’t wait for qb that sees the field!
VA and Wright were shut down...
Gotta have a passing threat to be able to open up the field for the running game.
You must have watched a diffetent game than I did.
Stein averaged 8.1 yards per attempt despite the porous O-line. We need an offensive line.
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
Not trying to kick a team when it's down........ Wtf was that ????
Come on guys it’s shit like that that makes the BE look bad. Don’t give them ammo.
O-Line
We will be a very poor team until / unless the offensive line can block, especially run block. Here’s a stat for you. After two games the longest run in each was made by someone other than a running back (Philpot, Stein).
I don’t have exact numbers but I don’t think a running back has a gain over 15 yards yet. And now we move on to BCS teams. It could get really ugly if this doesn’t change.
No doubt the D lines we will see coming up will be bigger, stronger and more athletic than Murray state and FIU and that is frightening.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree, and think about it, their pass blocking might be worse than their run blocking
Don’t know how many sacks they had but it was a bunch. And considering that Stein was scrambling all night, they had him on the run even when they didn’t get to him.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
This will be a real test for Charlie Strong's coaching ability - to fix this O-line problem......and FAST!
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 9, 2011 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
Scruggs play both ways!?
(I’m very football dumb.)
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Sep 10, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
3 reasons
- has to be coaching in game
- young team in fact second youngest in D1 which brings us to…
- Steve effin Kragthorpe
by The_Ville on Sep 9, 2011 11:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wow......
Did you know Stein threw for 349 yards in this game???? What more do you want from the guy? He ran for his life all night and still put up numbers. The o-line and lack of a running game put us in 3rd and long too many times. This is the entire reason we lost. VA and Wright seemed to be running tough though.
by BetaCard466 on Sep 10, 2011 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Thank you!
The problem is not Stein. The problem is who is right in front of Stein. Period. Our defense did its job in the 2nd Half while the OL (especially Hernandez) looked increasingly terrible. If the OL improves, this team will win some more games. If not, not. Nothing else is even close to being so important.
by CardsRuleBE on Sep 10, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Somebody needs to put a mirror in front of him and ask him if he can find a college football player in there anywhere.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 10, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Talking about Hernandez, of course
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 10, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
That DE for FIU
was just destroying Hernandez in the 2nd Half. It was really ugly. Hernandez honestly has no business starting. He basically gave up in the 2nd Half. The guy would blow by him and Hernandez would just stop going and watch the play. He needs to not play…. as soon as possible.
by CardsRuleBE on Sep 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Also regarding Hernandez, as a senior he won't be back. So we would be better off playing an underclassman who can learn and grow into a beter player next year
Plus, if he is a scholarship athlete, it’s hard to imagine him being worse than Hernandez.
by Carolina Cardinal on Sep 10, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree whole heartedly
They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds.
by LvillefaninLex on Sep 10, 2011 1:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hernandez is not supposed to be starting.
It’s supposed to be Kupper, but Mario being out is screwing everything up.
Who knows (reaching for anything at this point)
Mario may be the missing piece to help solidify the line.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
Offensive line= exposed
No push on running plays yet somehow the offensive coordinator thought it would be a good idea to keep calling them?
Couldn’t pass protect for more than 2 seconds, yet somehow the offensive coordinator thought it would be a good idea to keep going play action even though run was no threat what-so-ever.
No threat to run= the defense teeing off on every play midway through the 3rd quarter.
Defense was good, held them to 17 points. You can’t ask much more than that from a young D going up against a player like Hilton.
Stein is no worse than Burke was last year, the difference is last year’s line was good and they ran the ball well. If Mario doesn’t come back and this line doesn’t get it together, you won’t have to wonder whether or not TB5 will play. Because Will won’t last the season taking that kind of punishment.
Period
by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Sep 10, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions
1st ever post
LOVE THIS SITE! I’ve been reading for along time.
really didnt want my first EVER comment to be semi negative, but… BASKETBALL IS ONLY 46! (technically 62) days away!!!
Our team
Is going to be fine. Not this year but so what. I don’t think it has jack shit to do with heart though, we are just young and inexperienced. Wait till bridgewater, Parker, Rogers, Harris etc are juniors and seniors. Our team is going to be BEAST MODE then. Unfortunately until then we are stuck with the rebuilding of the Krag era. So just tailgate and drink a lot of beer and cheer loud even if were losing.
by Jason G on Sep 10, 2011 7:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
O-line improves, we win games.
It don’t, we have many more losses like this. Defense can keep us close in games, but we won’t capitalize with the current state of the offense. And yes, Sanford’s play calling is suspect. Have no confidence he can run a good offense.
any Defensive Linemen we can move to offense?
Once we get scruggs back seems we are deep enough on DL to think about moving some people. Have been for playing TB more at QB but now concerned he wouldn’t have line to support his positive maturation
by GlavCard on Sep 10, 2011 8:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I was pissed last night...
…but today, looking over the replay of the game and reviewing the statistics, this game was decided on 3 big plays. FIU couldn’t sustain a decent drive but neither could the Cardinals. I’m not pissed at all now. This game was ripe for the taking but the youth of this team showed that they have a ways to go. Statistically dominant the whole game, UL just came out on the short end. Reminds me of the USF-ND game last week. ND had over 500 yards of offense, dominated the stats and still lost. They big play just killed UL.
by CardRon on Sep 10, 2011 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Everybody chill out
The sky is not falling!!!!
Look, I agree that it sucks that U of L lost to a SunBelt team. But this is a SunBelt team that is pretty good. FIU was ripe for winning a game like this. But the Cards basically dominated in every phase of the game except the run game. As everyone has mentioned before, the O-line is what lost this game for us. Will Stein put up some ungodly numbers and even though there was a defender in his face 1.5 seconds after the ball was snapped every time, he still managed to have a 70% completion rate.
Our WR corps is possibly one of the best in the country. Other than TY Hilton’s two big pass plays, the defense only gave up 3 points!!! You take possibly the fastest WR in the country out of the equation and U of L wins this game handily.
The glaring skid-mark of this team is the O-line and when Mario Benavides comes back from his injury, he is sure to shore up the line at least a little bit. Alex Kupper can move to left tackle and Hernandez can move to guard. Guarding the water cooler.
As for Sanford’s play calling, the only play that I thought was suspect was the run called on 4th and 1. I thought he should have either called an Iso run up the gut instead of the off-tackle run or a play action pass to an out route in the flats. But I don’t blame the guy for calling the off-tackle run because it had been their bread and butter (remember Wright dragging three guys on his way to a first down).
I understand that from a spectator’s standpoint, you see the pass game being successful and the run game failing epicly, but you can’t simply give up on the run game and make your offense one-dimensional. If you are passing on every down, the defense will eventually switch to a dime package and put in two extra DB’s and interceptions will ensue. Sanford had to make the defense at least respect the run game a little, so he could continue to keep the passing game open. The guy obviously isn’t a Bobby Petrino or a Chip Kelly-type offensive mind, but he knows what he is doing.
If the O-line gets shore up enough to where the run game provides decent results, this team is going to be ok.
Not saying we are going to beat UK or anything, but lets not forget
The Wildcats are not necessarliy a dynamic offense. I am eager to see how they look against the fighting Chippewas, but they only put up 14 points on the last place Sub Belt team and would have lost to FIU if it had been them in Nashville on Week 1. Personally I think the chances to end the streak are good, it will all come down to which bad O-line plays better.
by Criss-Cross Card on Sep 10, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions
I feel like I'm watching my Chicago Bears...
Lackluster offensive threats (at this point) as a result of a horrible o-line & a strong defense that can keep you in games. Sandwiched these 2 together in hopes of winning enough games to play an extra game during the holidays.
I DO keep drinking more beer (which is the best coping mechanism) & I CONTINUE cheering for my guys in Red & Black!! Nothing will stop that & it shouldn’t stop anyone else.
Let’s not forget these “kids” are student athletes & if they listen to HCCS then everything else will fall into place. I do question Sanford’s play calling too but if he/we can pull it all together & beat the Cats next weekendthen I’ll be extremely satisfied with anything that happens the rest of the season win or loss.
NDHCCS (Never Doubt HCCS)
Head of ADHD Operations
by tnatburks on Sep 10, 2011 9:59 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Building (or rebuilding) a football program is a process
All I am looking for is effort and I think I saw it again last night.
We are paying the price for 3 or 4 years of very bad recruiting. When K brought in guys that picked UL over Sunbelt or OVC schools this is what you get. A team that is short of BCS talent in the junior and senior class.
That being said, Coach Strong has certainly upgraded the talent level with his first two classes. But we are playing a bunch of very young guys. The learning curve could be brutal.
All I ask is for the guys in red to give 100% on every play and for improvement every game. Yes, this could be a long season. The fans who were talking about 7, 8, or even 9 wins need to dial back their expectations. This process will take at least two more years. Could be longer. Time for all of us to STAND STRONG!
by RB in Bardstown on Sep 10, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
Fan base needs to get behind the team
Why so many empty seats? Attendance announced at 47k. There may have been 47,000 tickets sold but I doubt there were 40,000 at the game. Bad message we are sending to the coach, players, and recruits.
by RB in Bardstown on Sep 10, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
To be fair
It’s a Friday night, and a lot of people were probably at High School games. Coach Strong knows that, and the players do to.
by Chris Redman is my hero on Sep 10, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Announced attendance is always tickets redeemed, not sold.
There were a lot of people on the decks as well.
What they need to do is start selling deck tickets for a small price a la Cowboys stadium.
attendence not that bad
Stadium expansions have to come in large numbers of seats…pre expansion that is a rambunctious sell out…and you’ve got 4-5 thousand at the stadium but either inside at new pnc plaza, b&w club, luxury boxes or south end zone party plaza
by GlavCard on Sep 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And BTW
What’s goin on with BACK OF THE HOUSE and Shenard? Really playing poorly of late.
"Morgan Newton sucks!"
- Victor Anderson
Neither Holton nor Smith
are cover Safeties. They bring the boom boom and both are excellent tacklers. Just don’t ask them to cover speedy guys like Hilton. We won’t face another guy all year like that kid. I keep saying this because it’s true: once Mario is back and guys shift back to their normal starting spots (and Hernandez sits on the f’ing bench where his worthless ass belongs), this offense will click. I talked all pre-season about how Mario was the key this year. Is that not obvious now??? Everybody’s freaking out because we lost to a Sun Belt team. OK, but this was THE Sun Belt team. Champs from 2010 and they returned nearly every starter. They are every bit as good as any middle tier BCS team. It sux losing to them, but it’s not like they were nobodies. More to the point, our defense is fine. Our passing game is actually quite good. Look at those stats from last night. You can’t really pin any of this on VA or JW because their success is a direct result of OL play, and that’s obviously shitty. Don’t bail out on this team! With Mario back under Center, the entire complexion of our offense will change for the better. Count on it!
by CardsRuleBE on Sep 10, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
They're 2-0.....
But, yeah. They really aren’t good. We HAVE to break the loss streak to them. I’ll be doing good deeds all week to sway karma…
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Sep 10, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that lame.....
The commentators of the UK-WKU game sure got it mixed up. I got a good chuckle from the reference. Of course the reason for the chuckle was because I started thinking of announcers messing up which led to thoughts of the Oregon State game last year. It only took Fox Northwest a full half to identify the correct Couch Strong. Its funny how the mind works.
by BetaCard466 on Sep 11, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
More fun this way
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
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