Oliver: SEC wants Louisville, Kentucky does not

Lexington Prepatory Academy doesn’t want us in. They want us in the worst conference possible so that they might actually have a chance at out-recruiting us in Football, and maintaining their dominance in SEC hoops. What a bunch of scared Bitches.

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I would kill to be in the SEC. Please got let this happen.

I was hoping the Jurich/Slive relationship would come through.

http://www.cardchronicle.com/2011/9/8/2412256/uk-should-invite-louisville-to-the-sec-no-seriously

They need to think with their brains, not their egos.

I’d say we fit in fine with the likes of Florida State, Clemson and Virginia Tech. Give me a freaking break about academics. Florida State for the love of god!

If they really wanted to be proactive they would become a 16 team conference ASAP by adding Syracuse, Pitt and UCONN (as is rumored) as well as bringing in West Virginia and Louisville and be done with it. You confirm basketball dominance as a conference forever and come away with some better than average football, at least with Pitt, UL and WVU. What’s so complicated about this?

if in the SEC we’d immediately be shooting for 4-5th place every yr including this one.

IMHO, the way things are headed with the Big Tweast (12+east) is we’re gonna end up laughing at how much easier our path to the bcs game is than everyone else. i believe they won’t have the balls/clout to take away the tweast’s bcs status, and we’ll have a MUCH better post-season path than the poor schleps trying to win the super conf’s. Sure we’ll have to keep taking abuse about our conf, but we’ll be laughing all the way to the orange bowl.

Two loss LSU played one loss Ohio State for the National Championship in 2007 while one loss Kansas was relegated to an at large bid in the fed ex bowl.

…then we’re a lock for a great conference. Either Missouri goes SEC and we take their spot, they stay and we go SEC, or the SEC goes 16 and we’re probably in the SEC, even if a Texas-occupied Big XII exists at that point.

If Texas stays we I think Missouri turns down the SEC. Down the road if there is more turmoil, they’d still get into the SEC or maybe even the B1G. But think about Mizzou fans in the north and west parts of the state. Arkansas would be the only remotely driveable conference game. That has to be a tremendous part of their thought process. If Texas, OU, OKST and TTU all stay, that is still a really good conference. We are desperate for something better, but they would be in no such situation in that spot. They’d get a huge TV deal, and like I said, if the s*** fan starts whirling in the near future, they will be the safest of any of the teams left

How credible is this Chuck Oliver guy?

My Version of The Big TWeast, aka the ACC will not kill off Big East bball as easily as they think.

Here is my proposal for the Big TWeast

Basketball

Cincy, Louisville, USF, Villanova, (Missouri and/or West Virginia pending the SEC), Baylor, Iowa State Kansas, Kansas State, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Notre Dame, Providence, St. John’s, Seton Hall, (UCF or FIU for the Florida market), SMU, Houston, Eastern Carolina.

That leaves the conference with 20 schools in basketball. Not quite as good as the ACC right now, or even arguably the old Big East, but this could be the second best basketball conference around given the recent mediocrity of the PAC-12, B1G, and the always basketball poor SEC.

Perhaps we could even “trade” some of the basketball only schools. Say Providence and Seton Hall for Xavier and Richmond or George Mason and VCU. Possibly some combination of the two.

This plan would allow us to keep the NYC and D.C. recruiting areas open for UofL and the rest of the old BE football schools, while possibly adding some recruiting areas in Florida, Virginia and North Carolina, i.e. the ACC’s backyard, as well as Texas.

The Big East bball tournament could still use MSG, while possibly adding Greensboro, N.C., when the ACC is not using it, to our rotation. (Assuming that the ACC will add MSG to their rotation.) As I am biased, Louisville could be added to that list, along with Houston.
  
As a side note, the volunteers of the Derby City Classic have done a phenomenal job for a very long time, but it is time that we add a corporate sponsor to that event. Either Adidas or Under Armour. That would help out Big East, specifically UL, recruiting a lot.

Football

Cincy, Louisville, So. Florida, TCU, Villanova, (Missouri and/or West Virginia pending the SEC), Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, (UCF or FIU for the Florida market), SMU, Houston, Eastern Carolina.

That leaves us with 14 football teams, assuming that either Mizzou or West Virginia jump ship to the SEC. (If Mizzou goes to the B1G, then UL probably goes to the ACC.) This conference might actually be stronger in football than the old Big East. At the very least, it should be enough to retain BCS AQ status.

Possibly, but Georgetown, Villanova, Notre Dame, and Marquette still had bball value. What if we split with the BE entirely and the BE basketball schools merge with the Atlantic 10. That would be a hell of a bball conference.

But, I see your point too.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/20/sec-presidents-endorse-informal-agreement-with-mizzou/related/

Which means nothing but kind of strange they would deny it if it’s a done deal.

Didn’t the SEC deny they gave TX A&M an invitation at first? My guess is Mizz is heading to the SEC if Big 12 falls apart. From what I have read they seem some what interested in salvaging the Big12 but seems like TX and OK have a lot of issues to work out and they might not want to wait around too long. Kind of shocked WVU wsa denied by both the SEC and ACC, I figured they would get picked up by one of the conf but this is good for us.

Personally my favorite scenario would be to go to the ACC with UConn but I still don’t see that happening. My second favorite scenario would be ACC takes UConn and Rutgers, the nine teams in the Big 12 stay together and add Louisville, Cincy, TCU, WVU and USF giving them a 14 team conference. The scenario I think is most realistic today is Big 12 implodes with theTX and OK schools heading to Pac 16 and Mizz to SEC then UConn and Rutgers go to ACC and we are in a league with Kansas, K-State, Iowa St, Baylor, TCU, Cincy, WVU, USF and maybe pick up 1 – 3 other schools like Memphis, Houston and SMU.

Oklahoma and Texas have some issues to work out over the LHN. If Texas wishes to join the PAC-1?, then there are some issues to work out over the LHN. Remember that Texas and the LHN started this recent round of realignment by essentially pushing Nebraska, Colorado, and Texas A&M out the door over the LHN. LHN aside, Boren and Oklahoma really wants to be in the PAC-1? for acadmics. I think that Oklahoma is pretty much gone to the PAC-1? with an invitaiton.Texas is more divided over that move. I am not so sure that Texas wants to leave with them.

With that said, there are really two scenarios for the Big 12 that are likely.
1.) The Mad Exodus: Texas will make concessions over the LHN network and works out a deal with the PAC-12 over the LHN. In that case,Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State all leave. The likely result is the Big TWeast with Louisville inlcuded. Assuming that Louisville does not somehow work out a deal to join the SEC.
2.) Big 12 2.0 Reboot: Texas is not willing to make concessions over the LHN. Texas then gets the best of both worlds by essentially being a football independent while belonging to a conference. In this scenario, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State bolt for the PAC-14. Missouri would definitely jump at a chance to join the B1G, but would be less likely to jump to the SEC. The Big 12 adds four new schools to get their number back up to 12. (Which would also make their name much less ironic.) Those four schools would likely be Louisville, West Virginia, TCU, and one of the following (Houston, Rice, SMU).