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There's only one way to start the week, and that's by thanking CardsFan922 for taking such good care of you all over the weekend. Although I did hear that he let you rent and watch Scream. Can't say I'm thrilled about that.


The biggest piece of news from over the weekend was the "indefinite suspension" of Darius Ashley by Charlie Strong.

There was a lot of debate in the preceding days about what the proper action was in this situation, and I think the overwhelming majority of Cardinal fans agree with Strong here. Darius Ashley will almost certainly not play football for the University of Louisville this year, but he's also not being thrown out on his ass to deal with a very serious problem all by himself.

As for Strong, you have to respect the fact that he didn't beat around the bush and spoke directly about Ashley's "alcoholism," and also that he said the following: "As a coach we have to understand this. When a player fails, we all fail."

Strong proved last season that he can get the job done on the field, but he's been proving since he got here that he's capable of making the right moves in the oft-stressful and controversial extracurricular world of major college football.

Tom Jurich hired the right man.

Here's a fresh set of highlights of the newest Cardinal, Kevin Ware:


Jarvis Giles, the former South Carolina running back who transferred to Louisville but left the team last month, is now reportedly trying to transfer to South Florida. However, Big East rules state that a football player who transfers from one member institution to another is ineligible to participate on the team at the second school. If Giles is looking to continue his playing career, he'll have to look elsewhere.

Louisville is one of ten schools in the running to land class of 2012 point guard Gabe York. The Cali native is also considering Memphis, Notre Dame, Kansas, Marquette, Oklahoma, UNLV, Arizona, Washington and Connecticut.

York said he plans on visiting Louisville and his high school team will play next winter in the King of the Bluegrass Holiday Classic at Fairdale.

"Louisville plays a very up-tempo, fast pace game and that’s what I am looking for," York said. "Rick Pitino came to my high school and that was a great experience.

"It was just the fact that he’s such a big name guy and he came all the way out to my high school to see me and was a big honor. There were probably 100 students in the gym waiting in the gym to see him. He hasn’t lied to me at all. He’s told me up front that he thinks the guards are leaving and that I would have a good chance to play."

Very interesting to hear that Pitino has used "the guards are leaving" as part of his recruiting pitch. It's a loaded statement, and one would have to to conclude that Peyton Siva heading to the NBA is encompassed.

In Chicken Knowles news, the man, the myth, the legend apparently had the opportunity to ball with Kevin Durant over the weekend. He also got a little bit of love from CBS.

Andrea Adleson ranks the offensive line units in the Big East, and Louisville's inexperienced group checks in at No. 7.

7. Louisville. The Cardinals return just one starter in center Mario Benavides, who has been hampered with a knee injury. Ryan Kessling and Alex Kupper have playing experience, but most everybody else is pretty unproven, and that makes for one of the biggest question areas on the team headed into the fall.

And finally, Matt Norlander says that Terrence Jennings is one of the "misfit toys" of the 2011 NBA Draft.

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he wants to be a dentist.

"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino

by rickmbari on Jun 27, 2011 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino

by rickmbari on Jun 27, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still wondering why Ware fell so far in the recruit rankings.

Also, remember the name Rebecca Greenwell. http://www.usabasketball.com/bios/greenwell_rebecca.html
Co-MVP of recent USA U16 Women’s tourney in Mexico and Lady Cards prospect. Her aunt and uncle (friends of mine) live in Louisville. I’m sure Walz will get it done.

Stout Out!

by tdstout on Jun 27, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Is it the links, SB Nation, Card Chronicle, or my mobile device?

up until just now, I’ve had to open links in a new tab to get to their destination – or to comment.
RE: Early arrivals/enrollees
that will not effect any eligibility will it? I don’t think so, but still curious.

by 4ul4life on Jun 27, 2011 9:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Red Giraffe

I worked met girls there for 3 years during college.

Stout Out!

by tdstout on Jun 27, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

No. Never.

Of course.

They frequently left without renting, though. Took me a while to wise up to that.

Stout Out!

by tdstout on Jun 27, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

'91-'94 may have been the glory days of cinema

Surf Ninjas….Three Ninjas..Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II and III

the glory days of comedic ninja-ism.

by Leigh on Jun 27, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dr. Dunkenstein was a customer.

I was at RG (originally Premier) from about ‘89 to 92’, mostly in the Creek. I did some time at the Hurstbourne store. Griff’s wife was usually the video renter, but Griff came in himself at times. Every time he signed a receipt, it ended up in someone’s pocket.

Stout Out!

by tdstout on Jun 27, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Around '02-'03, I worked at the J-Town Blockbuster, where Susan Sweeney and Denny Crum were regular customers.

I attended that year’s “Dream Game” (nobody calls it that anymore) and watched the Marvin Stone-led Cardinals beat up on a ranked Wildcats team. Great game, I think the Cards had something like 13 players in double figures. After the game, I headed to work and Coach and his wife came in to rent some movies. We talked for a few minutes about the awesomeness we had just witnessed and then I waived his late fee. So, yeah, Denny Crum owes me one.

by Peter McSheisty on Jun 27, 2011 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chicken Knowles has made me 'LOL' on Twitter twice

A good couple minutes, tears in the eye laugh at the unintentional comedy of:

        - “Yes Chick-fil-A at last.”

        - “I’m Watching Surf’s Up. The Chicken in dis movie is hilarious.”

Twitter has made the Summer of Chicken > Summer of Bryce

by tmjoel01 on Jun 27, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Guards are leaving?

Siva seems like the obvious one if he has a breakout year like we expect him too, Chris graduates and then I assume he is talking about Russ Smith transferring.

I don’t see any of our freshman leaving after one year, Chane and Wayne may be gone after two though.

So I assume we will be looking for an elite SGF to go along with a PG like York and have those 2 and Ware run the guard positions with Wayne on the Wing in 2012. And then pick up a 3rd recruit who is a PF or C to back up those guys/ split playing time

by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 27, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I would hate to see Peyton leave

but I am glad that Pitino is confident that Peyton will have an amazing year.

Jeff Goodman is trying to put his foot in his mouth, but Gorgui keeps blocking it.

by Cardwayoflife on Jun 27, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

GCA is on suicide watch

"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino

by rickmbari on Jun 27, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If Peyton has the kind of season we all expect, I don’t have an issue with him leaving early. We witnessed what a few weeks of USA basketball did for his game this past season. Hopefully his run with CP3 and Jason Terry gets his jumper back in shape. If he adds that floater in the lane, he will be deadly (er) off the pick and roll.

by VinylRichie on Jun 27, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

is Kevin Ware...

julius hodge’s little bro???

by YimYames on Jun 27, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Rick is desperate

Rick will say anything at this point to keep up with Calipari. Rupp Arena is horrible. Bench seats in the upper level… and you can’t even enjoy a cold beer at the game. However, Cal just put Harrelson in the league and also helped Orton go in the 1st round. We have the YUM! and an incredible fan base/tradition, but we are still begging and hoping kids come here. I’d promise playing time if I was Rick too.

by I miss Wheat! on Jun 27, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

TOP 5

Recruiting class doesn’t exactly scream desperation.

by VinylRichie on Jun 27, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?!

Harrellson wasn’t in Chad Ford’s top 100 in the weakest draft ever, and was drafted by the Knicks. All Cal. Top 5 classes aren’t desperation, just to put it out there.

"Marquis Teague sucks!"
-Bryce Cotten

by HorsePig55 on Jun 27, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harrelson's success was a fluke.

1. Everyone expected him to be 3rd string behind Kanter and Vargas.
2. Kanter was ineligible, so that put him behind Vargas.
3. Vargas sucked, so Harrelson HAD to play.
4. Harrelson practiced against Kanter every day.

If either Kanter was eligible or Vargas didn’t suck, Harrelson’s senior year would’ve been on the bench with even an overseas career unlikely.

But, with all due props, he worked his butt off, had a great season, hung a career high on us, got drafted, and ultimately got connected to the Knicks where he’s expected to get time at center behind Turiaf. I wonder if they’ll have JORTS night in MSG?

Stout Out!

by tdstout on Jun 27, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

TJ

He will rebound from not getting drafted. Which may be more than one can say about his rebounding here.

But he did learn how to make free throws.

by cbcard on Jun 27, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Am I the only one

That disagrees with Strong’s decision on Darius Ashley?? Playing on scholly at UofL is a privilege that isn’t enjoyed by many, and in my opinion should be revoked after the irresponsibility of two consecutive DUIs. These aren’t situations in which he had 2 or 3 beers; people in the community could have been killed if he was loaded enough to hit a police car. If he truly is an alcoholic (although many people drank and did stupid things in college buy weren’t necessarily alcoholics), get the kid some help. But the biggest life lesson for this kid is to show him that there are consequences for making the same dangerous mistake in a short period of time, and kick him off the team. He missed that lesson, again. With how excited I was when Strong came in talking about class and discipline, this is embarrassing and a bad example for other players. Some other kid out there deserves that scholarship.

by DirtyBirds04 on Jun 27, 2011 4:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

your points may have value...

but i’d enjoy watching you explain them to HCCS, while you let him know exactly what hes doing wrong here…

1) NOT sending another at-risk youth some where else to be some else’s problem
2) using the less common approach to college athletics and actually caring about the person over the athlete
3) NOT casting stones, for he has sinned in his life
4) living the Golden Rule, not the opposite, like most high profile successful people

youre right, this coach strong guys is really just wrong a lot

by YimYames on Jun 27, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did I say he was wrong a lot?

Just not sold on this ONE decision. I hope the kid turns things around, but where do u draw the line? You could rationalize every disciplinary issue with your bullet points, but ultimately there has to be consequences for irresponsible— and very dangerous— behavior. Were you happy with our courting of Tony Woods? And the whole APR issue is even more reason to send a message to the team. If he plays this year (to my knowledge no timeframe set on suspension), that sends a strong message to the team and community.

I’m not even sure what pic I have since I usually log-on on my phone, by I’ll change if it’s the same as Mike’s.

Not trying to be disagreeable or come off that I’m at all unhappy with HCCS, just a bit surprised of his decision and the overwhelming support by the fans. Would we be singing the same tune if the starting CB of UKay did the same?

by DirtyBirds04 on Jun 27, 2011 6:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i agree, perspective is important here

but im more looking at the over all ideas behind recruiting… if coaching staffs across america spend so much time talking these kids up, talking about “changing lives” and “building futures” then its unfair to just “get rid” of a kid.

i dont know where football ranks in darius ashley’s life but im assuming it is of much greater importance to him than it is to any of us… if any coaching staff makes the claim that they are really in it for these kids, then when something happens they have to step up.

if your child, and i hope this never happens, turns down a road like this then what would you do?

ALL coaching staffs tell the families of these kids they will shelter them as their own, so how can they turn on him now.

if they make a promise to these kids for all the good stuff (5stars, all-americans, TDs, ints, sacks, Ws, bowl games, Big East titles, top 25 rankings, posters, jerseys, $, more $, bigger rooms to hold more $) they have to deal with the bad with same level of concern and importance, not just discard the kid like he was a bad business investment.

that was the original point i was trying to make… the ridiculousness of someone telling HCCS, to his face, to kick ashley off of HIS team for any reason

by YimYames on Jun 27, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You make good points

But I never said that someone should tell Strong to kick DA off the team. I just don’t necessarily agree with the decision.

Like I said, hope the kid turns it around and this 3rd chance proves to be a turning point in his life. Case closed, let’s move on to some more upbeat news in Cards Nation.

by DirtyBirds04 on Jun 27, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie Strong not only did the right thing, he did the smart thing

His consequence is not seeing the football field, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a part of the football family. I imagine he will have personal and team responsibilities to take care of in order to gain the privilege of a scholarship.

On top of that, the University of Louisville football program is on the verge of an APR disaster. A lot of players leaving the program for a number of reasons (Kragged, playing-time, kicked off, etc.). We already lost 3 scholarships for 2011 and it isn’t looking much better for 2012.

Taking away Darius Ashley’s scholarship would’ve only added to this problem and likely would’ve cost us more than one scholarship in the future.

(On a side note: Would you mind chaning your profile picture on here? I read the entire post thinking it was Mike, as he has had that same picture for a few years now.)

by tmjoel01 on Jun 27, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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