Wednesday morning Cardinal news and notes
by Mike Rutherford on Jun 1, 2011 1:32 AM EDT
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Get me past beer three, and I WILL be doing my Earl Clark impression for you. That's a Woodrow F. Call-strong promise.
I love that man.
Evan Daniels tweeted on Tuesday that both Louisville and South Carolina had backed off of their pursuit of Dayton transfer Juwan Staten. The point guard had originally been scheduled to visit U of L yesterday.
I'm not going to act like I'm not disappointed, because this news leaves Louisville with a giant hole at the point guard position both right now behind Peyton Siva, and entirely whenever Siva is gone for good. Kevin Ware can be a solid player in a couple of years if he's willing to put in some considerable work, but every indication is that he's not the answer at the one, which is almost certainly where he'll get an initial look.
I understand that Ware is 6-4 and athletic, but that alone isn't going to get the job done in the Big East. This isn't Conference USA where Taquan Dean could walk the ball across midcourt before making a simple pass to Francisco Garcia to start the offense. We're also not Providence, who can score 88 on any given night but can also finish with a turnover mark approaching 30 and consistently has a "teen" at the end of their final Big East resting place.
Being able to get out in transition and make plays on the fly is a huge asset for any college point guard, but in the Big East you're not going to be able to make it through a season without having to consistently handle tough, physical ball pressure. Ware didn't handle those situations particularly well at the high school level, which means it'd be foolish for any of us to think he's not going to have a problem handling them here. At least not right away.
A day after tweeting his displeasure about not getting enough positive attention for his charity work, John Calipari was at it again during the SEC meetings in Destin. Cal used the platform to call out Duke for its culture of flopping, and to blast the Big East for getting too many teams into the NCAA Tournament and then underperforming.
Counterpoint:
I eagerly anticipate your response.
Football season is (sort of) back, as the Cardinals began their summer conditioning with a nice 6 a.m. running session.
Charlie, thoughts?
First day of a new season. This is where it all starts. We can't settle on what we did in 2010. We lose 25 seniors. Who is gonna step up?
Adding to the excitement was the news that all but three of the freshmen class of 2011 were enrolled in school and working out with the team, meaning - among other things - that eligibility is no longer a concern for either B.J. Dubose or Lorenzo Mauldin. The three freshmen who aren't yet in town (Eli Rogers, Gerod Holliman, and Mike Romano) are all high-profile guys, but they are reportedly good to go for July.
Never got around to talking about this, but the Louisville baseball team made a valiant run in the Big East Tournament, winning three games in three days before eventually falling one win short of making it back to the championship game. The Cards are missing out on the NCAA Tournament for the first time in five years.
The Least Cool Person Tournament kicked off Tuesday, and it looks like Ted Driscoll and Central Florida are each locks to make quarterfinal appearances. Two more first round matches are on the docket for Wednesday.
There have been lots of rumors about Russell Smith looking to transfer, but after a trip back home to New York, the sophomore-to-be will be back in Louisville this weekend. As will Rakeem Buckles, whom CardsFan922 recently creeped out at the airport.
Jeff Walz continued to be awesome on Tuesday by landing commitments from the daughters of Tick Rogers and Anthony Epps, who are both stars at Marion County High School.
Ken Lolla added three more transfers and a late signee on Tuesday. One of the transfers comes from UCLA, which is also the team Louisville will open its season against at home on Aug. 27.
Finally, check out Eric Crawford's column this morning for a handful of positive quotes from Tom Jurich on the current state of the Big East.
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Am I the only person
that thinks Rock is poised for a breakout year if he can stay healthy? He is tall, athletic, and strong. I hope he gets his share of time. I am getting super pumped for this 2011 team. We are really deep. I know I say everyone (mainly Siva and Dieng) is gonna have a breakout season, but I can’t help it. Go back and watch the summary VillenHD video and try not to get excited about next season (minus Preson! (sadface emoticon)) when we add this recruit class to one of our most loved teams.
Oh, by the way, the other day I dropped my change from a McDonald’s purchase in the slot for the Ronald McDonald House and I’m pissed no one is tweeting and retweeting the shit out of that fact. Please let everyone know. Usually I’m a piece of shit, but I want everyone to know about the donation. Spread the word. Seriously. Please?
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Jun 1, 2011 2:01 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hey everyone
Did you hear about this Cardinal_Pride person, apparently he or she dropped a few coins in for the Ronald McDonald House. Totally should be the new Cardinal of the Year
Def a he ...
given use of “sadface emoticon” rather than :(
Props.
by Leeroy Jenkins on Jun 1, 2011 8:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I heard John Calipari modestly dropped a Ben Franklin in the Ronald McDonald box.
And by modestly I mean with several reporters and camera crews on standby as Calipari shook hands and traded autographs with Ronald himself, all before asking Ronald what shoe size he wears and offering him a scholarship.
by Get_In_My_BELLY_ on Jun 1, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What year is Ronald in?
Class of 2000?
by Chris Redman is my hero on Jun 1, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Your donation to the Ronald McDonald house is canceled out
by the fact that you went to McDonald’s in the first place. Eat food, not that junk.
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
You're right.
I’ll go next door to Taco Bell. Smiley/wink Emoticon
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Jun 3, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I put a penny in the give a penny take a penny dish at my local udf today.
Btw JEFF WALZ is a bad mother fucker.
Boats 'n Hoes!
Love UDF...
Best milkshakes, used to love getting them on my way through Ohio.
by LankySteve on Jun 1, 2011 6:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No wonder cal is complaining about the number of big east teams in the ncaa tournament,
he keeps gettin’ that ass smacked by them every year.All this charity work should exempt him from ever playing a big east team in the tournament again.
Boats 'n Hoes!
Show some humility Mr. John Calipari
People who really care about doing things for charity and not wanting anything back in return don’t care who knows or talks about it.
Way to show why you really do charity work douche bag.
FYI – Crusade for children is this weekend
by gary west on Jun 1, 2011 7:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Clearly Cal has not seen the "Anonymous Donor" epidode of Curb Your Enthusiasm
what a shame….
But seriously how do UK fans get so pissed at B. Knight about calling out their style of recruiting and then Cal goes and calls out probably the most reputable/respected coach since Jimmy V. !?!?! and the Big East gets as many teams in the tournament as we do because we are better than you, plain and simple – Please see: results of SEC/BE invitational next year.
Your glass house has about 3 shattered walls Cal, might not want to throw any MORE stones
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 1, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
i freaking love that Curb episode!!!
by Cambroni Cardinals on Jun 1, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I freaking love that show
moving to NYC for the next season… should be amazing
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 1, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Buckles is wearing Jorts
let’s start a campaign and get everyone to call him that and talk about how great he is because he is better than he was supposed to be and he wears jean shorts! then let’s send in funny pictures of us in jean shorts and talk about how we look just like buckles. i mean come on…he is wearing shorts that are made of jeans. that is so unusual yet interesting.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Jun 1, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
Looks like blue khakis to me... need to confirm with CF922
Not sure ‘blukis’ would catch on as quick.
I dunno
Blukis would be pretty damn funny. Imagine the game threads.
Blukis for three!
Nice Rebound Blukis!
Blukis just stepped on Darius Miller’s Face, Awesome!
by Chris Redman is my hero on Jun 1, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess I missed the Calapari tweet
What exactly did that D-bag say anyway?
"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."
-Muhammad Ali
by Red Rage06 on Jun 1, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He basically asked why Pat Forde and Pete Thamel didn't say anything about the story about his charity work.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Jun 1, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
His tweet
does not mention anything about charity work. It is much more likely that it is about the lack of reporting about the APR that tied UK with Vanderbilt. He took a lot of flak from a bogus statement from Bobby Knight that got a lot of press.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
Backup PG was needed ASAP
Ware is a project, but will be a better bench option than justice or smith. Staten would have had to sit a year, which would have left us still a very depleted guard play off the bench. And yes, it’s not C-USA, but it’s also not the Atlantic 10, and C-USA when we played there was 20x the conference that the A-10 is now. Staten is better than Ware, but Wares upside is as high and we needed him now. Also a solid player.
And Calipari is starting to make his penis envy obvious. No one outside Lexington likes you, and that is a town full of obvious hypocrites and ugly people. You can’t coach in the Big East, so quit whining like a jealous little brother.
by RockCard on Jun 1, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Any respect I had for John Calipari after reading that article a few days ago is gone.
The guy never fails to outdo himself.
Hearing that South Carolina also backed away from Staten is a bit curious. Maybe he has some sort of eligibility issues, which is why we decided to take Ware instead?
Love how the Big East underperformed
yet the 9th best (+-) Big East team bounced the #4 in the nation Cats. What’s that say about his performance?
by 4ul4life on Jun 1, 2011 1:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You guys miss the point in what Cal said.
He was telling the media and every other Cal hater to kiss his ass. Several media members and fans of other programs are quick to jump on Cal over issues that may or may not be true. But nobody has anything to say when they are proven wrong.
For example, everybody jumped on UK’s bad grades in Cal’s first year. Now UK’s APR is the highest in the SEC tied with Vandy. We can all agree that Vandy is a good school and you have to be pretty smart to attend Vandy. But instead of showing Cal any love for turning the grades around, some people would rather listen to Bob Knight tell lies.
Cal can’t keep his players in school, he only wants to push them out the door so he can get a new crop of one and dones. Really? Jones and Lamb both returned for a second year, and Jones is attending summer classes.
Cal can’t coach, he just rides the talent as far as he can. Cal just took a team with a 6 man rotation, 3 of which were freshman, to the Final Four.
Cal only cares about himself. His charity work proves that he cares about more than himself.
He was just giving the finger to all of the haters. And it is about time he did. If you are going to be critical of every move Cal makes, the least you can do is admit when you are wrong. Yet all you hear is silence. That was the point.
The Big East is a very competitive conference within it self. But over the last 2 years, The Big East has underperformed in the NCAA tournament. 11 bids this year and only 2 make it to the round of 32? You don’t think that is underperforming? Why give the whole conference credit for Uconn’s National Champiohship? Didn’t the same thing happen the year before? Why give the whole conference credit for WVU’s Final Four? Those 2 teams deserve praise for their accomplishments, but the Big East as a whole did underperform. Especially when several, if not most of them got beat by lower seeded teams or mid majors, or a combination of both. If the SEC teams that made the tournament would have all got beat in the first and second round, you guys would be saying the same thing about the SEC. And it would be true.
let's face it scott...
you make some very valid points. i will give you that. i am going to be honest and unbiased as i can when i say this but no one cares about good news. what WAVE 3 tonight. there will be a murder story followed by a burglary, followed by a dirty politican and then we will throw in a investigative report on bed bugs just to top it off. Cal getting final fours removed is front page news. cal having all these one and dones who stay in school for the first semester then just stop showing up is front page news. with his history, UK knew what they were getting in to. you want to win? fine…it comes with a lot of baggage but you’ll be in the final four and have the #1 recruiting class every year, but at the same time everyone will hate your team and your coach and every little thing he does will turn into a big deal. Cal is rich… he is supposed to give to charity. Pitino gives a TON to charity but i dont ever hear anything about it.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Jun 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
UK had one player that didn't attend class after the first semester.
That would be Daniel Orton. So Bob Knight lied. If he was trying to make a point, why did he have to lie to make his point? UK and the fans did know what we were getting. And for the most part, we are all happy with Cal. You take the good with the bad. I am fine with that.
Pitino got all kinds of bad media coverage over Sypher. When it was over and done with, so was the coverage. I don’t see to many people in the media still basing Pitino over his actions. So why keep doing it to Cal? The vacated Final Fours are over and done with, so why keep using it as an excuse to bash on everything Cal does? I don’t see anybody doing that to Pitino.
Pitinos problems were not related to basketball
Cal’s were. I think it’s that simple but i dont disagree with your post.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Jun 1, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
But he is a head coach at a major program. It got it’s due coverage and then went away. No sense in beating up on the guy over a mistake that he made years ago. It is over and done with, let it be over and done with.
and i don't think the Pitino/Sypher thing is forgotten
i heard “ka-ren sy-pher” chants at at least 4 road games this year and everytime a Uk fan brings up pitino its followed up with some joke about his situation. maybe its not covered nationally anymore but it doesn’t go away in louisville. last note: i do believe there is an inner circle of friendships in college coaching. Pitino is really close with a lot of coaches. I dont know of any coaches Calapari is close with.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Jun 1, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He made the BASKETBALL related mistake just 2 years ago man
I am sure if Jim Tressell gets another head coaching job at a major program with a lot of exposure – the talk of dirty recruiting/benefits will definitely be discussed at length
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The FACT is
Cal has a history of scandal.
Perhaps he has been entirely clean at UK, but don’t act shocked people question what is going on there.
Why are you even on here? The Cal-bashing on this site is extremely minimal.
I am on here because I love college basketball.
If you don’t want UK fans on here, than why have some many stories on here pertaining to UK and UK’s coach? Saying Cal has a history of scandal is like saying that Pitino has a history of cheating on his wife. Camby admitted cheating, Rose was never found guilty of cheating. Don’t know how that makes Cal have a history of scandal. But that is my point. The media makes it out like Cal has a history of scandal, and some people just jump on that. He has never had a violation. I would say that Pitino gettting caught once, gives him a history of cheating on his wife. It just means he got caught once.
so many stories?
you are sorely mistaken. compare UK stories here to UK stories on KSR. Its 5 to 1 at least.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Jun 1, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true.
The ratio may be more like 10:1 the number of UL stories on KSR, catspause, etc….and 50% of EVERY post has some level of UL or Pitino bashing in it, regardless of the post topic.
Stout Out!
Ok, than they are wrong.
You don’t find that at A Sea of Blue. But in their defense, Pitino left UK and than ended up at UL. Some people are still bitter about that. I am not.
I'm ok with UK fans disliking Pitino because he's at UL.
I have a problem with the hypocritical comments they make about him personally and professionally after the job he did in Lexington.
Stout Out!
Just about everyday I check this site, there is a new story involving UK.
Either by the people that run the page, or a fanpost. Right now being one example. Hell even if there isn’t a story involving UK, UK or Cal will get dragged into the story. When Rodney Purvis decided not to attend UL, here came the bashing on UK. Lots of people on here just know Cal would be paying for Rodney’s services. Same can be said about Ryan Harrow.
I for one don’t read KSR. Some of those guys are jerks and some of their stories are rediculous.
well that's the comment section
mike and staff aren’t responsible for what we say. just what they post and he hardly ever posts negative about UK. i’ve been on the site 3 years and have been pushing him to give it to UK like KSR does to us and he says he doesn’t want to do down that road. i respect that and that’s why im on here to tell you that you are mistaken.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Jun 1, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
ok
gotta go back to work now. it was fun talking to you scott. you were one of the UK fans i can actually have a mature discussion about the rivalry with. i appreciate it.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Jun 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Take this thread for example
There was more to talk about than Cal. Alot more. I think Cal only got a small paragraph. Yet, most of the comments are about Cal. I know Mike can’t control the comments, but someone asking me why I am here would be like me asking why do you guys talk about Cal and UK so much. I have decided to be as objective as possible and do my best to not bash UL. There really isn’t any reason to. My best friend is a UL fan, and I reserve the right to talk shit to him. But I do like to discuss the rivalry and what better place to discuss it than in the back yard of the rival?
Well the longest stretch of Cal related comments is in response to your post
because you had to come to OUR website.
We talked about this Scottie!!!
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Rose was never found guilty
Do you honestly believe that? and Bledsoe dominates quantum physics too right?
I don’t think ANY school should brag about their Freshman academic performance, you mean John Wall got straight A’s taking the most basic BS electives filled schedule with un-timed testing and a private tutor for one semester?!?!?! Get the fuck out of here that is impossible!!! sign this guy up for the state senate he is a genius!!!
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 1, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
How they performed in tournament is irrelevant.
Last time I checked, they select teams on how they perform LEADING UP TO the tournament. And OVERALL the Big East dominated their out of conference schedule, with a few exceptions (including, unfortunately, UK).
Actually it is relevant
When the statement that was made was that the Big East underperformed in the NCAA tournament. That was the topic. Especially when the NCAA tournament is pretty damn important.
The point is
everyone says the Big East didn’t deserve so many bids. They justify this by saying it underperformed, which is a fallacy.
They deserved the bids
They underperformed after they got the bids. Uconn proved itself, the others didn’t.
Very few conferences "proved" they deserved the bids they got.
The SEC surely didn’t. By the way, the most teams the BE could’ve gotten into the final four was FOUR. I guess four out of eleven would’ve still been considered underperforming.
Bottom line is that Cal needs quit bashing other teams, other conferences, and other coaches. It’s no surprise he doesn’t get the love he wants. I know plenty of UK fans that admit hating him before he came to UK.
Stout Out!
Not really
Getting four teams to the Final Four would have been dominating. I don’t think anyone expected that. But most did expect the Big East to get more than 2 past the second round. And I bet those UK fans are not hating him now. And it works both ways, if Cal needs to quit, than so does everybody else.
My "four out of eleven" remark was tongue-in-cheek.
But, there are idiots who would still do the math and say the BE underperformed.
And, while the BE may have, indeed, underperformed…UCONN finished the BE ranked 9th, UL beat them 2 out of 3 games, and UK was 0-2 against them….and they won the championship. UK fans, out of everyone, should keep quiet about the BE underperforming. It just doesn’t make sense.
Stout Out!
Holy Shit, are you serious? GO BACK TO ESPN.COM, I've seen your handy work there and you're the same idiot here as you are there.
First of all, no one cares when the teams APR is in good standing because that’s where it’s supposed to be. Why should he get credit for doing exactly what he’s supposed to do. If the President and AD over there at Blue-U want to pat him on the back and say good job that’s one thing but why should the media care when everything is on the up-and-up? It’s just not news worthy to report on a program that’s doing what their supposed to do.
Second, he’s a Jack-Wagon for wanting praise for his charitable works. You don’t do good deeds with the expectation of getting good pub for it and bolster your image. You do good deeds because you want to help people.
And last but not least, The Big East has been the premier league in the NCAA for quite some time now. It was not that long ago that they had half the field still playing late into March. The year Louisville lost to MSU the Big East had 8 teams in the Sweet 16, 4 in the Elite 8, and 2 in the Final Four. Yet the knock on them was that they didn’t win the Championship. Now that the Big East has won the Championship the knock is that not enough of the teams that got in performed up to their expectations. You can’t have it both ways.
And neither can Calipari. Like Eric Crawford said, You can’t have your cake, eat it, and then expect someone to tell you what a good cake eater you are.
It’s like Kentucky fans proclaiming from the mountain tops for years now that our Final Four Run in 2005 meant nothing because to them Championships are all that matter, but ask anyone of them whether or not their appearance in Huston meant anything and they’ll look at you like you just grew another head.
by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jun 1, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Meant "they're" and "bolstering" wish we could go back and edit these things. Oh yeah Scott, in case you missed it in the story....
by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jun 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
UK players will never know the lost art of foreplay that the big east has to offer.
by Danny Duberstein on Jun 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHA this is amazing!!!
who is the player laying a smooch on Palacios? I can’t seem to figure it out
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Jerry Smith
And Juan doesn’t seem that into it.
by Danny Duberstein on Jun 1, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaaaah, so it is. An no, no he doesn't
by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Jun 1, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not
Because bad things happen to athletes from Columbia who “score on their own team.”
by Ellis from Compton on Jun 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It does not even look like Jerry
it looks like a 6-foot tall Samardo
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 1, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Cal only cares about himself. His charity work proves that he cares about more than himself.
Cal asking for recognition for his charity work proves that his charity work is not completely altruistic. He does it to build his brand. It’s self serving; no matter how much real good it happens to do, that is a side effect.
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
i gave a homeless guy 10 bucks today
i’m awesome. tell me how awesome i am.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Jun 1, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
Word spoken by the great John Wooden
He said, "The Coach must recognize that his profession places him in the public eye and he will at times, receive both unjustifiable criticism and underserved praise, and he must not be unduly affected by either."
Coach Cal, you are no John Wooden.
Stout Out!
by tdstout on Jun 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is perfect for ALL coaches
I wish wooden was still coaching, I would give any coach my team had the boot in a heart-beat
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 1, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Somehow I don't think he'd be as good today
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
well that didn't take long
see ya TJ!
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 2, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
NOT true.
I’ve learned not to want who leaves me.
by GOCARDSATTITUDE on Jun 3, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is that on the top of this post?
Looks like he is in a drug induced haze. Glassy eyes. Not good.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jun 1, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
you really did not recognize Clark?!?!
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 2, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The Earl Clark I remember always looked awake.
The photo above is not very flattering and doesn’t look like the guy I watched at UL. Granted I no longer live in Louisville so I never saw him except on the court, but this shot looks like he is walking out of court.
by Carolina Cardinal on Jun 2, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true
and I don’t know why is hair is so scrappy… maybe he is going to get cornrows?
That doesn’t seem like his “thing” though
I really wish he would have stayed for his Senior year
by I WantReeceBack! on Jun 2, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were in Calipari's shoes
I wouldn’t want any Big East teams in the tournament.
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
by rickmbari on Jun 3, 2011 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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