Pitino, why I am SERIOUSLY unconcerned
by Antiorb on Mar 29, 2011 6:35 PM EDT
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Let's talk, shall we? I know, I know... We've already got Austin's fanpost which is all the rage, but I have to be my own man, have to jump out there on a limb.
There's a lot of talk about Rick Pitino, and how he just hasn't got what it takes to win at the University of Louisville. To that, I would like to offer you the memory of some guy named John Wooden.
I know most people haven't heard of this guy, and it's understandable. He coached at a small time school that barely exists in basketball lore whose most notable players have been relative unknowns like Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Bill Walton.
Under his guidance, the UCLA Bruins only won 10 national championships in 12 years.
Before that point, though, he coached for 14 years at UCLA without winning a single championship. If that were Kentucky (or apparently Louisville), he would have been out on the street begging for a job. Instead, UCLA stuck with him and he led them to unmatched achievements in college hoops. He was 53 when he won his first championship.
Rick Pitino has been at the University of Louisville for 10 years. In that time, he has taken us to the Final Four once, the Elite Eight twice, and the NCAA tournament 8 out of 10 years. He has never had a losing season with us, and has won both the Big East and Conference USA once.
Yes, he has bowed out in the first round twice in a row.
There are other things that have been said as well that I'd like to touch on briefly: "No one cares what happened to a team 60 years ago." Actually, they do. It's called loyalty. I know a lot of people assume that these kids who come to play basketball are complete idiots about the sport's history, but the really good ones aren't. The dedicated, die hard players aren't. If you don't believe that these kids or at least their parents are paying attention to history, take a look at Notre Dame's recruiting over the past ten years for football.
Maybe Rick Pitino isn't a god, but I trust him.
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by johnnyjoejohnson on Mar 29, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
very nice point
although rick is not john wooden. ND is your argument that kids care about tradition. NO ND has a passionate fan base. Kids go and play for coach (most of the time) look at 2010 top ten class according to scout.
1. UK *
2.Memphis
3. Ohio St
4. NC *
5. NC state
6. Missouri
7. Syracuse *
8. Duke *
9. Tennessee
10. Mich St *
five of the ten school I would say are top 10 or 15 programs all time. How did the other five get in there without tradition. Those five school have coach who always recruit high no matter where they go or have been winning at that school for a while. you can find any year you want and the results will be similar. By picking one school ND football and using that as an example is ludicrous. They spend money on their program they get coaches who have won and can recruit. I don’t know why they do not win now. Point is I never said we should fire rick, I have no clue who we could get to replace him. As a UofL fan and Alumni I am not going to act like he has done a great job when it is his fault we have had a couple of down years, making the tourney is not an accomplishment. I will not apologize for holding our program to a higher standard. I Believe we are the 7th best program of all time our coach is the fifth highest paid in NCAA basketball. He might want to take some of the salary and give it to Tim Fuller.
Next time you want to try and call me out have some facts to back it up. Unless you want to be in third grade and use the argument because I said so.
by click_clack_red&black on Mar 30, 2011 7:51 AM EDT reply actions
You're all over the place.
This doesn’t even make sense. All I can tell from this is that you’re pissed about the recruits Pitino has been bringing in. I’d say he’s done pretty well except for the last two years. And, hopefully Tim fuller will help with that. it already seems like he has. Maybe you should write your massive donation check that you like to brag about directly to Tim fuller. That way, assholes like pitino won’t be able to get their hands on it.
I’d like to point out as well that Missouri and Memphis’ class fell apart on them at the last minute due to discipline and qualifications. Duke or Norht Carolina wouldn’t have taken a chance on those kids. And, three of those five are currently looking for new coaches.
by johnnyjoejohnson on Mar 30, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
where
does it say one thing about a donation check? I was answer his points in the post I just did not feel like typing any more than two paragraphs. My point about the recruiting classes is that kids do not care about tradition. UL and UK recruits proved that if you watch their smack talk video. When Davis says in perfect English that UK has championships, there is no response from our guys about the two we have, they just responded with who won your last one ricks pitino. So of the four of them sitting there they have no clue tubby won the last one. If you listen to it proves my point these kids don’t care about the past as much as people think or all six could know and just got caught up in the moment and did not say anything.
Missouri coach took a new job, NC St coach could not win and Pearl got caught doing what I believe 98% of coaches do every year in some form. I don’t know what those coaches have to do with those class.
by click_clack_red&black on Mar 31, 2011 7:57 AM EDT reply actions
My point is that your top 10 teams stat is misleading
Missouri and Memphis should not be on that list. Missouri lost their best recruit, Tony Mitchell, to academic inelligibility, which would drop them out of the top 10. Memphis had half their team kicked off or in jail. Teams with real tradition, outside of UK, don’t recruit that type of kid- the type who might end up inelligible or in jail. Maybe kids care about tradition, maybe they don’t, but your top 10 list doesn’t prove anything either way.
Maybe, I misinterpreted an earlier post of yours, but weren’t you the one who was bitching and complaining about how UL asked you for more money and you gladly paid it, but you expected wins in exchange for that. I thought you were talking about real money, not an extra $.50 in beer prices. You planning to drink this team to a new coach and a championship or what?
by johnnyjoejohnson on Mar 31, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont think one commit about real money means i want
my money back. I simply made a comment one time about if the university was going to ask for larger donation than it is only natral that expecation go even higher. That is a completely diffrent topic which i have no desier to get into.
I think you he the idea Im a pitino basher or want him fired. I don’t want him fired, I just feel that his seat should be getting a little warm. It is nto because of a last second shot by morehead. I was more upset with the time out when siva had the ball at half court with 3.5 sec.
I just think these next two years with Rick are hug for him and us. I not saying championship or bust but a deep run we need to have. I also think he really needs to play the AA next sure more than he did siva so cal can’t use it agenst him.
by click_clack_red&black on Mar 31, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
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