Digger Phelps ruined my night
(Editor's Note: I'd like to add to all of this that Digger was wearing a Notre Dame sweater and referred to the Fighting Irish as "we" on multiple occasions. Truly a low point for ESPN's fling with professionalism)
I know it was discussed on the thread, but I wanted to extend the discussion.
Never have I been more frustrated with the commentary in a game.
Specifically, the vendetta that was taken by Digger Phelps and Bob Knight against Kyle Kuric was sickening.
Going into the game, Kyle averaged 8 PPG. Before the technical, he had 17 points and then finished with 18.
Then, according to Phelps and Knight he had a 'mindset shift', resultant of the technical, that affected his game.
Kyle scored 8 points in the second half, including a clutch three and three free throws in front of a very hostile ND student section.
Knight and Phelps created a false villain in Kuric.
Did anyone else notice when Kuric missed a three in the second half, Digger said 'short' in the most vindictive manner? Or maybe you noticed the celebration in Diggers' voice when Kuric missed a lay-up in overtime.
I find it difficult to blame refs...it is difficult to make real-time decisions and is easy to get caught up in the atmosphere, especially at a place like Purcell. That said, I put a little more faith in the commentary team, who has the opportunity to see replays.
Simply put, I feel that this commentary team was extremely skewed in their bias towards ND.
Some other moments that bothered me:
- Saying Preston had no business taking a three pointer he hit in the second half after lauding Hansborough all first half for having such range.
- Making no mention of the Abromitis 'hook' or 'travel', which were both blatantly obvious on replay
- Making no mention of the injuries suffered to three of our starters until Rece brought it up with 6 minutes left in the game...you think that would have been a story line.
- Did they even refer to Kuric as King Kyle?
- Using the terms 'we' and 'our' when referring to Notre Dame
- Digger having a Notre Dame logo on his sweatshirt
- Digger passing out student tickets to the Notre Dame student body on campus this morning
I want to open the floor for discussion, but I really wish ESPN would adopt a policy where commentators who have been affiliated with a University are not allowed to be a part of the commentary for a game including that team. I am alright with 'analysis' or 'College GameDay' type events, but when you involve them in the play-by-play or color commentary, you are simply making the game a painful experience for 50% of the viewership.
I feel better now.
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I hate always bringing this up because it has been used at times when it shouldn’t have been but the refs dictated the second half..that was results from that tech and embarrassing ass dunk that I will forever cherish seeing as though I screamed at the top of my lungs as I ran threw my basement!! But the no calls in the second half dictated the flow of the game!! It’s hurts me to see refs do that! We will be okay as always.. Go Cards!
If you never learn to understand failure, how could you recognize success?
You forgot
“I just got a text message from my wife, she said a blind man could see that.”
by REALISTICCARDSFAN on Feb 10, 2011 12:00 AM EST reply actions
and as I pointed out in the gamethread
WTF WAS HE CHECKING HIS PHONE FOR TEXTS DURING THE GAME?
by Leeroy Jenkins on Feb 10, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions
I puked my guts out
Then I went 70 year old man and muted the TV and put on Paul Rogers. Most disgusting broadcast ever. One of the worst officiated games ever. While I was running around my basement with no pants on I flipped a shut when I heard technical and digger call kuric a stupid player
by UofLCards36 on Feb 10, 2011 12:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
talk about ruining someone's night
he caused austin “the clint hurtt of louisville basketball” montgomery to have a panic attack.
I agree with this post 100%
but you understated one fact. You said having Digger Phelps announce alienated 50% of the views. But in reality it was WAY more than that.
No one gives two shits about Notre Dame basketball. Mike Brey is arguably the best basketball coach in Notre Dame history and he hasn’t done shit. Furthermore, it’s a home game for ND, so probably more than half the people who give a shit are at the game.
However, if I remember correctly, the city of Louisville is the largest (?), best (?), most viewing (?)(I forget the appropriate adjective) basketball television market in the country. Granted ,some of that is UK fans, but still, we watch basketball here. So not only do you fuck with us by putting South Florida vs. Marquette on ESPN2, but you make Digger Phelps the play-by-play. Just complete bullshit.
Fuck ESPN.
I've written to Mike before on this sort of thing
It amazes me how ESPN’s college football coverage can be so across the board awesome and their basketball coverage so corrupt, nepotistic (any announcers not from Duke or UNC?) and wreeking of super tiny oligarchical cronyism (deep breath.) I call it the ACC Mafia that owns college basketball sports media and it’s one reason why college football (and football in general) is America’s pasttime. It’s about having respect for fans of both teams and being sensitive and aware that people put a LOT of emotion into these games and don’t need unprofessional jag off announcers playing favorites/cheerleading for their home universities if not outright recruiting from them also. It’s sports corruption and abuse of power. ESPN-get some intergrity and hire some analysts with ties from a cross section of conferences and stop disgusting people with your bias.
by wwwocls on Feb 10, 2011 12:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Shouldn't I be writing in to ESPN with all of this?
Yes. (It’s only a game, it’s only a game, it’s only a game…)
Does their bias gnow gno bounds
I can’t believe how in bed they are with Gnotre Dame

by tmjoel01 on Feb 10, 2011 12:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Open Minded ND Fan Agrees (Largely)
Just joined CC but I’ve been a lurked for quite a while. I’m a born-and-bred red and black Cardinal fan, but graduated from Notre Dame (twice) and now scream loudly for the Cards in every game but this one.
Watched the game with my Dad tonight, who, if it weren’t for my Mom would have to buy a new TV 3 or 4 times a year from throwing stuff at it during UofL games. Given the attacks that we as ND typically get because of our football program I’m very sensitive to media and officials bias for and against ND, and if anything tend to swing the other way in my reacton to calls, trying to avoid the homerism that UK fans embody.
All that said, here are the observances of a fair-minded Domer living in Louisville:
- I didn’t catch the fact that Digger had on an ND sweater or used “we” during the broadcast. Both are unacceptable unless there is a counter-balance who hates ND, a la Mark May.
- I don’t have any problem with Digger or any other alum / former coach / fan who is also with the media doing things with the university off air. But they need to be at least somewhat fair during the broadcast.
- The technical call on Kuric was total BS. The missed call on Martin hooking the UofL defender was a bad miss. There were other bad calls but I didn’t sense that – other than those two – they were greatly one-sided or determined the outcome of the game.
- My Dad called it during halftime that the announcer would try to make a narrative that the technical on Kuric impacted the second half and that was crap. He was right, they did, but it didn’t. Unbelievable that they don’t consider that perhaps Mike Brey would mention that ND should guard Kuric in the second half and that would affect his production.
Could write more but need to get to bed and go to work in the morning. All in all, another great game on the floor and in the arena, if not on the broadcasting team. Glad to be here on CC and will post as a Card fan 364 days a year.
Good post.
So does that 364 comment mean that if we play ND in the BE tournament, you have to cheer for Louisville? It’s in writing now!!
by Remote Cardinal on Feb 10, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Crap, you got me.
My first post on here and I have to go edit it. Make that 364, I hope.
The missed call that got me was the guy dribbling weith both hands on the baseline right in front of the ref
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
I might be mistaken (quite a lot actually) but...
wasn’t Dick Phelps fired or forced to retire from nd? Every time he goes there to do a game he gets goo goo ga ga over being in that arena. Phelps, your basketball IQ is on the negative side.
Not Sure, but Time Heals
I don’t know if Digger was fired or forced to retire or just retired on his own, but he’ll always be remembered fondly at ND. Denny Crum was forced to resign too, but nobody in Louisville will ever remember him for that over the 2 NC’s and 5 FF’s. These guys are the legends in their schools (yeah, UofL’s high water mark is a bit higher).
They never put Knight
on an IU game. He would rip IU up and down. Fuck ESPN. Fuck Mark May too. I feel it from both sides and last night was just terrible. Unbelievable. As bad as WVU game last year. I need a drink.
yess
exactly right. i felt the same way after WVU last year. a game we deserved to win that was ripped from us!
by Cambroni Cardinals on Feb 10, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
I tried to write ESPN's ombudsman last night
but their current one just retired/resigned. I suggest several of us write in when they get a new one.
by Chris Redman is my hero on Feb 10, 2011 8:49 AM EST reply actions
TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me say a few things about last nights game and I also want to say that I am usually not the guy to harp on commentators or refs but both were terrible last night. Here is a few notes…
1. The Technical call on Kuric? Really…he didn’t say a word, worst call I’ve ever seen. Way to steal the thunder on one of the best dunks in college basketball this season.
2. Over the back on Nash over Knowles late in the game. Bad no call cost UL big time. It led to this….
3. Abromitis travel (twice) in one possession then hits lay up to tie the game. Really shouldn’t have even had the bad at the point but hey you missed the first call, why not miss these two as well. ND had three turnovers not called on that possession and it led to them scoring
4. Digger and Knight on Notre Dame. Are you serious? I didn’t see if but I heard Digger had a ND pin on his shirt. I don’t care if you coached there. They both referred to ND as "we" and "our" throughout the night. When ND missed a hook shot late that would of tied it I literally heard Digger gasp in disappointment. On the Abromitis walk they talked about how great a play it was, not how bad of a no call it was. Everything ND did was great, everything UL did was terrible. Calling out Kuric for disappearing in the second half. Dude…the guy had his game average in the second half. Knight calling him an idiot on the technical foul…why not look at the replay and see that Kuric did nothing wrong and the ref is the idiot.
I’m so mad.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Feb 10, 2011 8:50 AM EST reply actions
I see too many comments about the refs
We had two possessions at the end of the game to put this away and simply did not execute.
Digger has been doing this for a long time. From 2003......
Shouted Phelps to the partisan crowd at halftime, “We’re down 10 points. I don’t want to see a single one of you sitting down the second half. Let’s beat Kentucky !” But just as the second half began, Cliff Hawkins spotted Hayes with a back-door lob which put Kentucky up even further, and deflated the Irish hopes. The television camera later panned to Phelps, sitting in his chair, looking dejected.
by Danny Duberstein on Feb 10, 2011 9:00 AM EST reply actions
So?
Danny, what’s your point? If he did this on-air when he’s supposed to be calling the game, I totally agree. But if so you left that part out.
If Digger shows up and roots for a team he coached at for 20 years and for a great university he fell in love with, and did so as a fan and former coach, then your point is lost.
Not to put words in Danny's mouth...
but I think the point is that anyone that emotionally invested in a team should not be presented as an objective color analyst or play-by-play man calling that team’s games on a national network.
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
+1
It’s the same as Jimmy Dykes (former UK assistant under Sutton) calling UK games for ESPN. It shouldn’t be allowed.
by Danny Duberstein on Feb 10, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Knight has no room to speak regarding techs/conduct
Getting a lecture from a guy who physically assaulted kids on the sideline on how to conduct yourself in a game is rich. He should stick to commenting on the game that passed him by.
I think the injuries are starting to catch up to us, maybe have been for awhile.
We look tired at the end of games, and I think that may be why we can’t pull away late in games after a rally or close game. All our bigs but TJ and Goode being out/sick really effects our guards, cause we have 4 on the floor. We have 7 guards, but 3 are exclusively PGs, so that left 4 for 3 positions last night.
I feel like we’ve been on the short side of calls for the past season and a half. They haven’t profoundly altered the end game as much as last season, but ND got some favorable no calls that led to points and a few bad call against us.
In the end though, this team still had a chance to win. And that’s why I love this team.
BOOO FRIGGIN HOOOO!
Unbelievable! Is this how much you guys whine after every loss? Obviously there are questionable calls in every game so quit trying to find excuses for your team not playing the entire game. Maybe if they showed up in OT and not get outscored 14-0 to start the extra session perhaps they could have won. Oh, and by the way, when was the last time Louisville was relevant in college basketball? 15-20 years ago?
a final four and 2 elite 8's in the last decade
I call that relevant
by Wayne Emberton on Feb 10, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Either you are a UK fan, which makes you a troll
or a ND fan, which makes you irrelevant. I certainly hope you are a UK fan, cause a ND fan coming on here to bash us in relevancy when your program has 1 final four and ZERO championships is rich. Stats like that mean that ND’s program basically hasn’t existed.
It turned red
Seriously didn’t know this was possible.
Oh the shame, spboxster.
by Mike Rutherford on Feb 10, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't turn red for me
Maybe only moderators see that. Too bad SBN doesn’t have thumbs up-thumbs down buttons. It’s nice to be able to just skip over the trolls.
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
What?
Is the red not showing up for anyone else?
by Mike Rutherford on Feb 11, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
it's not red for me, either
I am partially color blind but I see the green posts when they’re thumbs-up’d
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 11, 2011 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
It's only red for mods
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
No.1 overall seed only 2 years ago. I have to say that counts as relevancy.
Yes, that is Kyle Kuric
by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 10, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Louisville is irrelevant in college basketball
Quit your whining because Louisville in no longer relevant at all in major college basketball. Let’s see…….it’s been 25 years since your last National Championship and you guys have made one, yes that is ONE Final Four in the past 25 years as well. I would call that IRRELEVANT
I'll give you two guesses
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
i was 13 in 1998
that’s the last time you went to a final four, with our coaches players. If we are irrelevant…what are you?
by Cambroni Cardinals on Feb 10, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Last Final Four for ND was 1978. They didnt even make the tournament in 1998
Which makes it that much worse.
Um, a huge fan of an irrelevant team then.
I don’t think you meant me.
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
Let me guess.
How long has it been since your team has made it to a Final Four? 13 years, perhaps?
by cardcorefan on Feb 10, 2011 10:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I guess compared to Ohio State
is ND irrelevant in college basketball this year?
When was the last time UK had a final four?
Yes, that is Kyle Kuric
by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 10, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
You obvioulsy only need one guess
Obviously I root for ND. However, I am not on here spouting the BS of how relevant my team is,etc. However, anyone who follows college basketball would agree that THIS YEAR, again dont start citing history to me because I am only talking about THIS YEAR, ND is much more relevant than Louisville. Second place in the best conference in the country, top 8 ranking, a number of quality wins, etc. Just stating the facts, not reliving the past like some of your fans.
i stand corrected
you smelled like a UK fan.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Feb 10, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
That's why I said two guesses. He was one or the other.
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
Louisville is top 10 in wins the past 25 years
so if we are irrelevant than so are 355 other D1 teams.
by Cambroni Cardinals on Feb 10, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
WOW, how obtuse can one be?
How many starters (forget about Swop) from this year were on the bench/not at the game due to injuries and illness and ND squeaks by with a win after a dry spell in OT.
Seriously dude, get a clue. You beat our 2nd string – celebrate the relevance of that.
Talk about an idiotic taunt.
We were one shitty call away from beating your asses in regulation last night, and we would have been in the position you describe. Four minutes of suckage in overtime is then the difference between glory and irrelevance.
I hope we meet again in the BE tournament, and I hope Digger Phelps is forced to watch – preferably while listening to Dickie V blow kisses to Rick Pitino.
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
Again, have to bring up the past don't you
As I so boldly stated, I am talking about THIS YEAR idiot. I am a ND fan but I will be the first one to mention their irrelevance in football since the early 90’s. However, I can state that they have the best winning percentage (or maybe 2nd to Michigan, it goes back and forth every year) college football history. What does that mean for THIS YEAR? Absolutely nothing! Again, this year in college basketball ND is far more relevant. Higher ranked, better record in the nation’s best conference, 4-2 against teams that are currently ranked in the top 25 (vs. Louisville’s 1-4 record against top 25 teams), etc. Cambroni, quit living in the past. Top 10 in wins in the past 25 years? What has that led to? Nothing except 1 Final Four appearance in those 25 years.
come on buddy
a direct quote from you…
Quit your whining because Louisville in no longer relevant at all in major college basketball. Let’s see…….it’s been 25 years since your last National Championship and you guys have made one, yes that is ONE Final Four in the past 25 years as well. I would call that IRRELEVANT
You brought up the past. Please go away
by Cambroni Cardinals on Feb 10, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
You talk about "this year"
then in the same post reference the past 25 years. Make up whatever of your mind is left.
by Chris Redman is my hero on Feb 10, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Nice OT win.
Now go celebrate with your fellow fans and make sure Scott Martin is ok and that his girlfriend hasn’t dumped him. See you in the BE tourney when we’re healthy.
Stout Out!
by tdstout on Feb 10, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I grew weary of listening to this guy
So I banned him. I’ll probably unban in a few days, but he’s just here to cause trouble for a few days.
by Remote Cardinal on Feb 10, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Thanks Remote
He was making us ND fans look really bad. We’re not. In fact I’d not be surprised if he’s really a Michigan or tOSU fan posing as a Domer. There’s quite a history of that on ND boards and those of our traditional rivals.
by OderName on Feb 10, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As if Final Four appearances are the only barometer of success. By that standard, your Fighting Irish are worse than irrelevant.
Go away. Your arguments are nonsensical. And you arbitrary line-drawing with respect to which portion of “the past” is relevant (I hate to explain this to you buddy, but last night’s game is “the past” too) is most idiotic. Please stop embarrassing yourself and annoying us.
by cardsinindy2010 on Feb 10, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
So first you bring up the past 25 years, then you say WE have to bring up the past?
http://www.hark.com/clips/dyyjhmxzww-huh
Yes, that is Kyle Kuric
by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 10, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Learn to use reply, idiot
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
Mr. Relevant
Is it safe to assume you are also a Notre Dame football fan?
by tmjoel01 on Feb 10, 2011 11:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
From an ND fan
I’m a Notre Dame fan, but I personally would have enjoyed them getting Denny Crum as one analyst and Digger as the other. That would have been enjoyable and pretty fair, IMO.
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Not Really
Love Denny to death, but if radio is any indication, color commentary would be a disaster. Also, Digger sucks generally, not just last night.
by collegeofcardinals on Feb 10, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Never heard Denny do commentary
and if I did, I don’t remember. But something in my subconscious tells me I wouldn’t want to see/hear it.
Nope.
Love Denny, but he adds no insight to his comments about games. Quite frankly, I think Bobby Knight stinks too, even though he was a great coach. Digger doesn’t even have the “great coach” to fall back on.
Denny and Bobby might have fought
had those two provided the color for last nights game. Denny calls it like it is and would’ve called the clown for his “pot meet kettle” statement. Mayhem would have ensued.
Somebody more like Jock Sutherland
who would openly root for the Cards.
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
Florida is Calling You
Knight and Phelps pleassssseee do us all a huge favor and move on down to Florida and start commentating on something that you are now well qualified to do, Shuffleboard Tournaments. I’m sure there are enough people down there you two girls can piss off. I’ve never heard two over the hill, out of touch with reality coaches. Leave, just LEAVE.
by CA Observer on Feb 10, 2011 10:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think UL just got tired
They played a great game, just ran out of steam. But you all are right, Dickhead Phelps and Bobby " i love to choke little boys" Knight, suck the life out of a basketball game. Regardless if Kuric deserved a tech or not, which he didn’t, Bobby Knight isn’t the person that should be calling him an idiot. Since Knight is an expert on techs, you would think he would know who deserves a tech. And how the hell did Knight get this job in the first place? Chokes a player, head butts a player, thows chairs, punches a fan, says a woman probably liked getting raped, and so on and so forth… but hey, lets give him a job and put him on national television. Makes sense. Anyway, good game UL. They played hard and did the best they could. I think they just got tired. And this is coming from a UK fan, so if I can say it, I don’t know why Bobby Knight or Digger Phelps can’t say the same.

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