Boise State, Houston, SMU And UCF To Join Big East In 2013
by Mike Rutherford on Dec 6, 2011 1:04 PM EST
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Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, SMU and UCF will join the Big East Conference in 2013, sources told CBSSports.com.
The announcement is expected to be made on Wednesday.
Boise State and San Diego State will join the Big East as football-only members, while Houston, SMU and UCF will join as all-sport members.
With the addition of those five schools - minus the departures of West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse - the Big East will have 10 football members.
With those five schools on board, Navy is expected to join as a football-only member - possibly as soon as next week - to boost the football membership to 11 schools.
The Big East hopes to add Air Force as its 12th school, but the Falcons still remain undecided.
If the Big East can not get Air Force, Temple would be a likely candidate to become the Big East's 12th member.
Expected, but sadly this is probably the best case scenario for the league right now.
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Chicken is coming to the bucket.
by charliestrongmancrush.com on Dec 6, 2011 1:16 PM EST reply actions
This
But I’d rather he play in Cardinal red when he does.
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Dec 6, 2011 1:27 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Maybe we should have been more specific: #BringChickenToTheBucketAsAMemberOfTheLouisilleBasketballTeam
Not as catchy though. Probably wouldn’t fit on a t-shirt either.
12 would be nice
Get the added boost of a Conf. Championship Game. Probably be needed in tight BCS scenarios.
Why is this not a good thing
Why do we want to go to the SEC and get our heads bashed in week after week by the super elite powers like LSU, Bama, etc.
This is a good conference, that will maintain its BCS standing, THAT WE CAN WIN CONSISTENTLY.
We get to keep playing in Florida, and also get a trip to San Diego every couple of years.
It will be interesting to see how the league splits into divisions and if we go with a Conference Championship game.
Also, the Big 12
although would be nice, has a bunch of lame locations to visit, and other than Boise all of the additions are in easy to travel to MAJOR Metropolitan areas
I'm a little more worried about our program
than the places we may get to visit. I still say Big 12 > Big East at this point
Agreed 100%
Hopefully we leave next year for the Big 12 and this whole thing falls apart anyway. I really only think its a matter of time.
Located in Miami, Florida
by The White Mandingo on Dec 6, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Boise being in there certainly helps AQ, and maybe Houston with their last few seasons.
But it’s being thrown around dropping AQ and tie ins all together, and when/if that happens I don’t want to be standing in line with these misfits under the Big East banner.
Either way this is what we have for now, and we are going to be playing here for the foreseeable future so hopefully this turns out to be an anomaly.
It’s funny because strength wise: Boise, Houston, anyone > WVU, Pitt, Syracuse. But college football isn’t about football. It’s about brands and fan bases and selling tickets to BCS games. If I didn’t love my Cardinals so much I swear I would boycott this catastrophe of a sport.
by James Sutherland on Dec 6, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Boise is the best of that group
But Houston > Pitt?
You’re talking about the same Houston team that went 5-7 last year, right? Syracuse hasn’t been great, but I think it’s still far ahead of these cupcakes on Houston’s 2011 schedule: North Texas, La Tech, Georgia State, UTEP, Rice, UAB, Tulane…
Until they dropped their last 5 (which is damning yes), Syracuse was 5-2 (1-1) coming off a 26 pt beatdown of West Va
Pittsburgh since 2005: 49-37 (.569) one 10 win season.
Houston since 2005: 59-32 (.648) three 10 win seasons.
Syracuse since 2005: 27-57 (.321)
Syracuse has been atrocious I don’t know why you’re arguing that.
by James Sutherland on Dec 6, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Syracuse is awful, I wasn't arguing that
But Houston’s .648 winning pct in C-USA is not better than Pitt’s .569 in the Big East. Also, Pitt made the BCS about 6-7 years ago
Syracuse's non-conf schedule isn't that much better than Houston's
And the Orange struggled, winning by 7 pts or less in each OOC win, including a Tulane team that was housed by Houston a few weeks later. And a win over Toledo with help from the officials. SU’s loss at USC can be argued as a better test than Houston’s win vs UCLA, but not convincingly.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 6, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
You can always join me ...
… in boycotting the telecast of this year’s BCS “title” game.
I would say several reasons.
1.) Get screwed out of natl championship in this league
2). Football coaches want to coach in pac 12, sec, big 12 so we keep high hfc turnover
3). Better in football but lose 3 great basketball teams
- An undefeated team in this league has a shot at the crown. Boise and Houston were both highly ranked this year and in the BCS bowl conversation as at large invitees. SMU and SDSU are bowling; UCF was one win from bowl eligibility. Therefore…
- If this league lives up to its potential, it could become attractive enough to keep coaches.
- Those three basketball teams are already gone. We keep eight others that made the NCAA tournament field last year and add one more in SDSU.
I think this is a fine league in which to wait for our Big XII invitation.
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
They're saying SDSU as football only.
They would make a good bball addition, though. They’d be traveling a ton, though.
Stout Out!
we regret the error.
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
Why is this a good thing?!?!?
Why would we not want to go to the SEC and bash in the heads of the super elite powers like LSU, BAMA, etc. week after week?
To be the best, you have to beat the best.
Don't forget the BCS will be having meetings to address changes
And that could be the end of the AQ.
well, this makes next season tricky
If WVU leaves, finding six non-conference games would be difficult. And if Pitt and Cuse leave next season, we could only have 4 conference games.
I hope this means that we’re hanging on to WVU, Pitt and Cuse for one more season
We just schedule North Texas, Kent State, Georgia Southern, Ole Miss, and as long as there are 2 teams on our schedule with winning records BAM: BCS National Title Game.
by James Sutherland on Dec 6, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
That would work except ...
… we wouldn’t have that pretty Kirk Herbstreit whoring for us all season long.
Possible divisions
East – UConn, Rutgers, Navy, USF, UCF, Temple
West – Louisville, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Boise, SD St.
maybe not the best set up for us tho
Louisville and UC get boned pretty hard if that's the case.
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Dec 6, 2011 1:26 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Temple?
Now that we have commitments from the west, it is a LOT more likely that we get Air Force in football (and join the western division). Meaning, Temple to the east is not going to happen and Cinci will slide back over to the East.
We are the Mafia Boss in this new BE. None of these new schools, and certainly not UC, UConn, or Rutgers has the athletic department to push us around.
Our misfortune is the only thing that held this league together. We will get something more favorable than this I’m guessing.
by James Sutherland on Dec 6, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Road trip to America's Finest City? I'm in.
If only UNLV wasn’t so bad . . . .
That said, I can’t figure out why they’re considering BSU and SDSU travel partners. Only 950 miles between the cities.
No doubt, that would be fun for both sports. Half of us would never make it back from Vegas. I always like UNLV except when they beat us.
But they seriously blow at football.
by James Sutherland on Dec 6, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
We are time zone partners...
lots of room out here where a few hundred miles is just down the road. On the travel part for you guys, the cost really isn’t that much more. Its a charter flight whether one hour or three. Fuel costs are the only real delta. At least your volleyball team doesn’t have to make the trip.
Sounds like you guys want us to try and bring the Las Vegas Maaco Bowl tie-in? :)
Don’t stress over the blue field – its decades old now and we hand out blue-green filtered glasses for first timers.
travel partners doesn't matter
if they are football only, we don’t need travel partners. its other sports where you need travel partners. the tennis team might play at St. Johns and Rutgers on the same trip. but with football you only play one game per week, so travel partners aren’t necessary.
i would assume to offset the price of travel expenses that east coast schools will only travel to SD or Boise once each year, instead of playing both on the road in the same year.
I think we took SDSU because they are an FBS school that plays in a NFL stadium, and quite frankly that is more than any member of the MAC or Sun Belt has to offer.
most importantly
is chicken coming to the bucket. there’s going to have to be a whole new t-shirt for this
"You can sum this sport up into two words: 'You never know.'"
too many equine mascots if you ask me
our city already brings in enough horses. >crawls back into hole<
What's the over/under on number of "Aztec" jokes?
eleventy billion?
How many SD State fans can fit into a Pontiac?
Depends on how many are surfing.
God I hope we are going to the Big 12 soon.
I can’t stand Boise’s blue field. Houston, SMU, and UCF don’t excite me at all.
-Dustin
Insert B12 Cardinal here...
…riding all the aztecs, broncos, cougars, mustangs and knights to a bcs bid.
This is it. Don't get scared now.
It hurts basketball alot, but football get better dramatically. Boise St and Houston > than Pitt, Syracuse, West Virginia. Also if they do away with AQ all together than no one will go to major bowl except SEC, Big 12, and PAC-12, Big 12. Any other conference including big East and ACC are out. So still hoping for Big 12 bid, but this was best case scenario for what was left after mega conference moves.
by cards4life1 on Dec 6, 2011 1:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
meant Big 10, not two Big 12
and if they do away with AQ they big bowls will be able to choose whoever they want and whichever fanbase travels best will get the bid, so a 6-6 Notre Dame team would get the bid over any ACC team. You are right about Miami, but when was the last time they were good. Virginia Tech got the bid this year because there weren’t many great teams in the BCS leagues beyond the LSU and Alabama. It all comes down to money and is a broken system.
Get the F out!!!!
That pretty much sums it up. RUN!
by 5-0card on Dec 6, 2011 2:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Paves way to B12
I think this paves the way for UL and Cincy to get the B12 invite and UCONN to the ACC. Neither conference wanted to “kill” the BE but now that the BE has added all of these teams the league could survive. Plus the B12 will be the only conference w/o a championship game and you know that wont last long. I think in a few years we will have an experienced Sr. QB and skill positions taking on the B12 school and winning the league on our way to a BCS championship. Collision course!
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Go Cards!
it is what it is
You kno I could be complaining that we should be in a better football league that we don’t compete or deserve to be in, like Kentucky,,but at the end of the day, we are now top dog in a currently bcs qualifying conference, a conference that competitively we deserve, but not too far above us or below us,,its a good easy conference for the meantime, so while we are waiting to be invited to a better league, we can stay ranked, build our facilities and build our program,,just wish they could have done more for basketball, because football may drive the bus, but in the big east, basketball is and always has been the foundation
by weallbleedredeventually on Dec 6, 2011 3:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Tired of all this realignment stuff
And this is the consolation prize I didn’t really want us to get. Ugh.
HOWEVER
Boise is a 7 hour drive from Portland which means I get to experience UofL football in person every other friggin’ year!
WOO HOO!
"To win the game is great. To play the game is greater. But to love the game is greatest of all."
by kentuckybred on Dec 6, 2011 3:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Welcome to the New BIG EAST (Now with slightly more of a western feel)
Home of Elite College Football !!!!!!111
Where new LEGENDS are built upon the ashes of LOSERS and HAS-BEENS!
See for yourself:
Soon we will be instating Martial Law with the help our countries armed services academies
…if only they were allowed to play football with their side arms (and with sniper support).
by sarasota-card on Dec 6, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
OK. This isn't ideal, but....
perhaps we can enjoy a couple of years as the biggest dog in the pound, providing the Big East keeps its AQ status. That said, the appeal of the Big 12 is lost on me — I know, I know, the football is way better, but I’m still mourning what is soon to be the destruction of the best college basketball league in the history of the damn game. And I’ll forever miss the Big East tournament in the Garden if and when we say goodbye to this conference. Playing football at Oklahoma and Texas won’t replace that for this old man.
theoldman
by theoldman on Dec 6, 2011 4:01 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I just hope we don't lose the BET in MSG
I’ve been to the BET each of the last 4 years, and it seems like the crowd is predominantly Syracuse, UConn, and Pitt — in that order. Two of those fan bases are leaving, and taking their ticket sales with them. MSG may not be happy about that.
As long as we’re in the BE, I want to go to the Garden in March.
by JohnTongEchoesinmyhead on Dec 6, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget the ACC
Their commissioner babbled about having their tournament there on a rotating basis. How can the ACC and BE have tournaments there the same week?
Boise State's statement should be something close to this:
“We are very excited to finally be joining an AQ conference. It’ll be nice to finish in the top 10 in the BCS and actually get into one of its bowls. Yes, the Big East is at the kids table, but it’s completely worth joining a league on the other side of the country to avoid staring through the window. We realize that this will all be pointless since we know conferences will probably shuffle some more, and now that we’re joining an AQ conference, it’s pretty much a lock the BCS will move to only organizing the championship game, if only to throw a big fat middle finger in our direction. So we’re doing this for now, and we look forward to winning the first FBS playoff championship in 2015.”
by CardinalDude on Dec 6, 2011 5:56 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Road trips to San Diego
Makes Scorpiocard HAPPY
:D
Do you mind if I troll a bit? I have a legitimate question.
What is the feeling of your board of regents when the Big 12 sends you an invite?
I have no inside information on this, but I heard from a friend who has friend, etc. etc.
And you ARE going to get an invite – and soon (so I hear). Your invite partner will probably be Rutgers, but Cincy is still hanging in there.
You really didn’t think the Big 12 would add a geographically remote school like WVU without adding schools to fill out a potential Big 12 Eastern division, did you?
I can see the Big East is scrambling to solidify itself and I don’t blame them (although I really don’t understand Boise).
Anyway, whether Louisville accepts the invite or not, I believe it is coming and decisions will have to be made.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Can't speak for the board of regents but most of the folks here seem to be in favor of a Big 12 invite
Thought I hit reply. Oh well, you get the idea.
by Carolina Cardinal on Dec 6, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Since we had one of the highest ranking members of the US Senate hold up the WVU invite
to lobby for UofL’s inclusion, I would imagine the Louisville board is in full support of a move and won’t be able to accept an invitation fast enough.
Actually, I can't understand Houston even more
Generally speaking, they average about 25,000 fans at their home games – their away games about 1/4th of that. What is their appeal?
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
And that goes double for Boise State
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
It actually doesn't feel bad as I though it would.
The nice thing is the league will now have footholds in Florida, Ohio, NY/NJ, California and Texas and even the Northwest a bit. Can’t hurt recruiting. Not saying we’ll be grabbing them by the boatloads in CA and TX but it definitely won’t hurt us if we can grab a few three stars between them. Maybe we can finally recruit the right way from the West Coast and Southwest, unlike Kragthorpe’s failed attempts. This also adds some extra presence in Florida which is very good for our program.
I’ll still take the Big 12 over the Big Wherever, but at least I don’t feel like screaming “SELL! SELL! SELL!” every time the league is mentioned now. Only time will tell, but this league may be better than what we currently have.
I'm happy about Boise St, although I don't see how their situation changes by joining
Being in the Big East isn’t going to change the annual struggle for respect and claim to a shot at the national title.
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