Louisville elects not to bring cheer and dance teams to Morgantown
by Mike Rutherford on Nov 1, 2011 9:41 AM EDT
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PrintWord began to circulate yesterday afternoon that Louisville had elected not to bring its cheer team, dance team or mascot to Morgantown for this weekend's game against West Virginia because of safety concerns. There have also been rumors that this will be the only road game of the season where the majority of the administrators from the athletic office will not be making the trip.
It appears that at least the first part of that is true.
West Virginia fans immediately cried foul once that tweet began to circulate, claiming that this was nothing more than Louisville trying to make West Virginia look bad after it was beaten out by the 'Eers for a Big 12 bid. Members of the cheer and dance team responded on Twitter by saying that the last time they made the trip to Morgantown they had bottles thrown at them and actually left the field before the start of the fourth quarter.
Mountaineer fans remained respectful during the debate, of course.
We can laugh all we want, but from a medical standpoint, he's accurate.
As far as the Internet is concerned, yesterday was as contentious a start to a game week as I've ever seen. It's remarkable how incredibly nasty West Virginia fans are when arguing that their fan base is not incredibly nasty. I'm not sure I'm ready for what the rest of the week holds, but I'm not sure I've wanted a win over the Mountaineers this badly since '06.
If you are making the trip to Morgantown, "The Sheriff" over at CardsandCats.com has a detailed breakdown of what you can expect.
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This is what you are getting, Big 12.
Pain in the ass to get to, and the fans are hateful once you do get there.
Truth be told
I haven’t cared that much about this game since 07 (aka the Pat White breaks our heart game…Pt. 2). But now…I really really really want to beat these guys. They are actually making UK fans seem intelligent and respectful.
respectfully disagree.
WV’s fans are absolute idiots what, twice a year, towards us? UK fans are dicks we have to live with 365 days a year.
I went to the UL vs UK game dressed in red
Tailgated just outside the stadium and I got some verbal bashings here and there the typical “go home” but nothing like what you’d experience from WVU fans.
I’m sorry and i don’t like UK fans but for them to be labeled worse or equal to WVU is downright wrong. I never once felt like I was at risk or fearful for my safety at the UK game.
I agree
I hate UK sports as much as the next guy, but I’ve been to several UofL games in Lexington, dressed in red, and have never felt a shred of fear or heard any threats. Sure, I’ve been booed, etc, but what the heck, it’s a rivalry game. It’s fun. Morgantown is not fun. We call UK fans rednecks, and sure there are plenty of UK rednecks, but they are more of the southern country rednecks, not isolated-from-civilization-for-a-century rednecks who would love nothing more than it bean a visitor in the back of the head with a battery
by uoflcard on Nov 1, 2011 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
WVU fans are worse.
Kentucky fans are annoying but they don’t burn couches in the street for fun.
Oh contraire mon frere
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're welcome
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Best part is the 2 fools behind the couch, apparently?, turning circles arm in arm
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the four of you are missing my point. I was speaking, as I indicated in my post, of cumulatively.
The level of violence/abuse during WV/UL games might be much, much, worse but after football/basketball games are over, no one ever speaks of them for the most part the rest of the year. But UK fans are relentless in their ridiculousness. It is year ‘round.
Or maybe, you guys just have ’nice’ UK fans for friends, family members and co-workers. I don’t have that luxury.
It’s because no one gives a shit about WV and I think most of us enjoy the rivalry between UK. I know some very obnoxious UK fans, but I would much rather deal with that than worry about my safety going to a game.
-Dustin
Good point.
but an easy remedy to that is to simply not go to a WV game on the road. try avoiding UK fans who bask in every little setback the Cards have year around in the city of Louisville.
And all I'm saying to don't go. You take that out of the mix and the the foolishness UK fans present trumps WV.
Look, I’ve been to about a dozen UL/WV games in both football and basketball over the years and haven’t seen or read about this much publicized craziness as indicated in this thread. I’m not saying it’s not happening but my original point was simply UK fans trump because of the entirety of what they represent…the. whole. year. round.
It was the fourth of July about 5 years ago (no sports-dead period) and I almost get into a fist fight when a friend and I are talking about the movie where the Marshall football team gets killed in that plane crash. A (former) UK friend walks up and says, “That movie would have had a happy ending if it were UL football players on the plane.” And laughed at his own joke.
Yeah, I’ll take WV twice a year.
I should not have to worry about my safety when I want to go watch my football team play. That’s the problem I have with it. Their leadership and admin should have enough control on their people to want to make opposing fan bases want to come visit and help the local economy grow. Right or wrong, I don’t ever plan on spending a dime in west virginia.
-Dustin
The scary thing is, their lunatic fans aren't just in West Virginia
I live 600 miles from Morgantown. My Jeep has never been outside of Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and Connecticut. I have a Cardinal bird head sticker on the tailgate. One day a couple years back, someone scratched a giant X mark and the WV logo into the back window. Truly psychotic individuals.
"We are on a collision course with the national championship; the only variable is time"
Don’t blame UL fans for hating us the same way we hated Miami, VT & BC when they left. That opened the door for UL to the Big East. PITTiful and Syracuse started this round. Most of the fans I know still wish the Big East could work. But if it wasn’t WV … UL would have jumped ship. I’ve never seen bad behavior by WVU fans. Whenever something gets thrown in our section 500 people are pointing them out to police to be removed.
I’ve been to 30+ stadiums and have seen the same behavior everywhere including 2 trips to UL. Couple idiots for every 500 fans wanting them thrown out.
I hope UL doesn’t burn bridges with WVU. It’s common knowledge West Virginia wants UL and another Big East team to make 12 teams in the Big12.
by Live4WVU on Nov 1, 2011 10:12 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Ugh, please go away
and take your calm, levelheaded comments with you. We can’t lob broad sweeping accusations disparaging an entire fan base with people like you trolling our boards. You’re taking all the fun out of our dire need to vent any and all frustrations of being left behind in a crumbling Big East.
by JohnTongEchoesinmyhead on Nov 1, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
excellent response
just the right amount of facetiousness
Peace. Love. Cards.
by quiet cardinal on Nov 1, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
You can try the "everybody does it" defense, but it won't wash
Nowhere else but Morgantown do our cheerleaders and dance team fear for their safety.
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
I realize that the vast majority of WVU fans are fun and reasonable, but ...
Whenever something gets thrown in our section 500 people are pointing them out to police to be removed.
how often does that happen? I’ve never seen anyone throw anything at a UofL game, just for the sake of comparison. I am sure it happens, but it’s a rare sight I think.
And I enjoy the rivalry with WVU, and hope we join you in the Big 12. Nor do I think that WVU is doing anything UofL wouldn’t do, although we might handle it differently. But I’m not worried about burning bridges with WVU, because you will have no influence on whether we get invited or not.
I've seen two objects thrown at PJCS this year
Both were foam balls. One from the student section into the visiting bench, the other from the upper deck onto the sideline, almost the field. Never seen anything dangerous thrown. And I don’t think ever ever seen a visiting fan threatened or hasseled beyond the typical “go home”, “it’s a long drive back to ______”, etc. And, not exaggerating, by far the worst behavior I’ve seen at PJCS were by, you guessed it, Moutaineer fans. There is a video on YouTube of a WVU fan harassing UofL fans before the 2006 game wearing a shirt that says “fags wear black” (since we had a blackout). I didn’t see that guy but I got a big “F*** YOU!!!” walking to my seats for that game. I laughed at the time thinking “damn, never thought I’d be heckled in my own stadium”
by uoflcard on Nov 1, 2011 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cool Story, bro.
You’re right WVU is just like every other tailgate experience. Everyone just hates on WVU because you’re so awesome.
That LSU fan had a broken nose, fractured eye socket, fractured frontal lobe.
What does that mean? That means he was beaten severely around the head and face. As in blunt force trauma, as in hospitalized in front of his pregnant wife who also sustained minor injuries when she was thrown to the ground.
Sick.
Tell me, just how many times does something like this have to happen before the negative reputation is “earned?”
Does someone actually need to be killed instead of hospitalized before the hooliganism is owned by the rest of the fans who are “the good ones?”
Because that’s really the only way it’s going to stop. When the fans who are the “good ones” finally say enough is enough and force the administration to do something about it.
IE: Fine them heavily, throw them in jail, prosecute them to the full extent of the law, expel them from school, ban them from games, ect,ect,ect…
I’m sure there are plenty of wonderful WVU fans who go to games to have a good time and don’t engage in random acts of thuggery, but there are enough of them that make it prevalent enough that this is the reputation the entire fan base has.
When people are legitimately scared to come to your town for a sporting event then there’s a problem. Shouldn’t be that way. You should want people to come to your town, stay in your hotels, eat at your restaurants, spend their money on your economy. That’s just not the case in Morgantown.
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I was being sarcastic btw.
I 100% agree with you I hate WVU fans and would never go to that crap hole.
I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to the WVU fan
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate to break it to you, but this has been a problem long before this.
I’d put money you could go back years on this board or search on Google and find accounts of your fan base out of control. Stop acting like we are trying to only now bring up the piss poor WVU fan base. And I agree every fan base has a couple bad apples but you all take the cake. YOU can be delusional but the rest of the world sees your fan base for who they really are.
My Soapbox: Only reason I care that WVU left the Big East is because Pitt and Cuse are gone. If they were still in the Big East then I wouldn’t give two shits.
-Dustin
You've never seen bad behavior by WVU fans?
Then you are literally blind or have never been to a WVU game. I’ve seen plenty of idiot Louisville fans that deserve to get thrown out of games and whatnot.
However, I picture the apocalypse being something akin to saturday’s in Morgantown.
by AllHailUofL on Nov 1, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
two years ago
I got shoved really hard twice. I am 67 and 5’8". Both guys who purposely banged into me were 20-25, over 6" and 200 pounds plus.
This May I drove through WV to the Greenbrier. I hadn’t gotten even to Charleston and had three different people see my UofL plate and give me the finger.
That’s what we are talking about.
Never happened!
Links or you’re lying. No way I will EVER believe any of this propaganda BS! Morgantown is only full of NICE, CORDIAL, FRIENDLY, DOWN TO EARTH people and nothing else, so “F’ YOU A HOLE!”
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by Carolina Cardinal on Nov 3, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
My roommate and I will be making the trip
So we’ll be sure to let you guys know our experience. I’m excited to see our defense stuff geno and Teddy continue to do his thing!
by Cardiknowles on Nov 1, 2011 10:16 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Yes
Please post a full report. Godspeed.
by Mike Rutherford on Nov 1, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've been there twice
Once in 1990 when we won, and again in 2005 when we got screwed by the refs on the on-side-kick no call.
I would say there was an unusual amount of verbal abuse, most of it not all that vulgar, but very spirited. This was more true the second time than the first.
I would not say I was “afraid” either time (I was a little worried my truck would get vandalized the second time…didn’t happen), but I did watch my back, and I stayed aware of my surroundings.
I rarely travel to away games alone, but I was alone both of these trips. The first because I traveled down from NY. The second I could not find anybody I knew who could, or wanted to go. Some mentioned because of being afraid.
I was thinking about posting on the Verbal Abuse.
I have been to WVU games (I’m an Alumni) with my Friends who have been from the opposing team, and been worried for my friends by some of the verbal taunts, only to have my friend, who is wearing ECU gear talk it right back to the WVU fan and end up drinking beers together. I’ve had the same sort of experience as Baltimore Ravens fan at the Titans’ stadium during the playoffs a few years ago. We’re getting harassed..alot. And I’m keeping my mouth shut, hoping for the best, and my friends start talking it right back to the Titans’ fans. All of the sudden it’s ok, and it’s all in Fun.
I don’t know. Part of the problem is that the Visiting Section enters the Stadium through the same gates as the Students. I sit on the Other side of the Stadium and have only a couple of times seen WVU fans get nasty. They are generally the people who fit the stereotype…older, huge guts, drunk, wild ass hair and beards.
At least go incognito and wear yellow over your Cards Gear on your way in and out of the game.
You can get yellow T-Shirts at Walgreens, the Dollar Store, and probably Walmart for next to nothing once you arrive in Morgantown.
Wouldn’t be a bad idea to either take a cab to the stadium or, remove your license plate and lock it in your trunk once you park. I heard there were a lot of people who had theirs stolen 2 years ago.
You’re a braver soul than I….
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Forget wearing yellow into the game! Wear your Cards gear, and bring a fricking camera and record all the BS you go through.
Put it up on CC for all to see. Hell, send a copy of it to the Big12. We’ll visit you in the hospital…suck it up!
You know,...if I thought that would make the Big12 reconsider I'd say do it. But it won't, and even though I'd love to see it....
getting your head kicked in with the soundtrack to dueling banjos playing in the background isn’t worth it.
#Incognito
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Youre
braver than I. But knowing me if I wore my UofL gear proudly going into the ‘terrordome’ and an idiotic WVU fan threw something/spit on me/or whatever Id end up in jail for beating a redneck idiot which is why i am staying at home cause I cant afford bail..
by rockchickpeg on Nov 1, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You might indeed make a canoe out of the first one's lip, but the rest of them would get you in the rush.
Can’t fight the numbers bruh, no matter who you are
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I love the Tombstone reference.
by cardcorefan on Nov 1, 2011 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I knew someone would get it;-)
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So jealous.
Send my kisses to the boys.
by GOCARDSATTITUDE on Nov 1, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Deal...
Although I’m still questioning how they’ll respond
Haha
Cardi knowles. That’s some funny shit.
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by James Sutherland on Nov 1, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Will you be posting this review from the Emergency Room?
be sure to use your iphone app. Does Morgantown even have 3G?
What's the West Virginia definition of a virgin?
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
A girl with no brothers?
"...and the present, for us, is something that we really look forward to."
- Rick Pitino
Any girl who can outrun her brothers
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
How do you castrate a man from West Virginia?
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
Dam it, I'm only 31 so they're not that old to me!
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm only 2 years older than you, guess I've been hearing them since I was 13
which seems about right
I may have said this before on here
But I went to the blackout game in 2006, and even visiting mountaineers are horrendous. They’re absolute lunatics. I was 16 or 17 years old and it was my first college football game, and as we were leaving a WV fan punched me in the back of the head.
I was a teenage kid with my dad, and I was not talking a word of smack or anything, they’re just fucking sociopaths, and they argue on the internet and show their ass bu deep down they relish being known for this stuff and that is what’s even crazier.
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by James Sutherland on Nov 1, 2011 10:58 AM EDT reply actions
I know not ALL WVU fans are that bad
But there are enough bad ones that the “worst fans in the nation” title applies.
Stories of vandalized cars. Stolen liscense plates. The volleyball team being called the C word. Bottles thrown. Over the top offensive shirts.
The fact that the travel authority is advising people to not go to WVU says a lot. I’ve never felt unsafe going to Lexington or Cincinnati and the horror stories I’ve heard aren’t nearly as bad or happen to as many people.
We aren’t even their #1 rival. What do these people do when they play Pitt?
#TransferChickenToTheBucket.
2 years ago, they were the only group of fans who could be heard clearly chanting Karen Sypher on ESPN when we played them there in basketball.
I can remember slowing it down with my DVR when the chant was going on and you could clearly see old ladies joining in.
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Went to a Louisville/ Kentucky game in freedom hall when I was 16, we won.
I wore a hoody and there were 2 UK fans sitting behind us. One of them kept smoking ciggeretts and blowing the smoke down on me the whole game. Was sitting with my uncles friend who was a total puss and wouldn’t say anything about it.
I went and got security, when I got home I had like 5-6 burn holes in my hoody.
They’re not much better
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions
Search "West Virginia Fans" in Google
Your first three results all concern the bad behavior of WVU fans:
Updated: LSU fans victims of assault after WVU game …
West Virginia fans disrespect the game
Foul-mouthed West Virginia Mountaineers student section under fire …
Search Kentucky fans..... LMAO!!!
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Oddly enough:
<a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=kentucky%20fans&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aseaofblue.com%2F&ei=SiWwTridBcjaggfrx6m2AQ&usg=AFQjCNEtldBEnSipXIOMJ5cPVc4l0PK9AQ" >
<a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=kentucky%20fans&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CF0QFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cardchronicle.com%2F2011%2F10%2F6%2F2473481%2Fkentucky-fans&ei=SiWwTridBcjaggfrx6m2AQ&usg=AFQjCNFNQUKNqg299et0t21QdOzYXFUPTA" >
<a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=kentucky%20fans&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CGQQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.courier-journal.com%2Farticle%2F20111024%2FSPORTS03%2F310240104%2FKentucky-fans-patience-rewarded-Big-Blue-All-Stars-vs-Villains&ei=SiWwTridBcjaggfrx6m2AQ&usg=AFQjCNH9OfmKxP2lo-AJMYjPMFNvhGgCeA" >
… I don’t think that middle one is appropriate.
by OnceYouGoStrong on Nov 1, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I also don't think those links came out appropriately..
Sea of Blue, followed by Card Chronicle, and then some crap story about UK Villains vs. UK.
by OnceYouGoStrong on Nov 1, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with the Tweet: WVU should be embarrassed
Something tells me the Big 12 isn’t gonna put up with this sh!t the way the Big East has.
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A buddy of mine married a girl from West Virginia and had tickets in the WVU section last year from his father in law...
We went to our seats and were harassed the entire game. Not fun, light-hearted trash talk that you’d expect with most fans. No. We were repeatedly told to get out of the WVU section or we were going to get our asses kicked. I drunkenly replied “get the fuck out of our stadium or you’ll get your asses kicked.” Some 80ish year old couple had to hold back some mullet sporting redneck from coming down to our seats and “beating my ass” or so he claimed. The old couple then apologized to me and told me that I was okay to sit there. I told them thanks and that I figured as much considering a) I was in my actual seat… b) I was a season ticket holder for several years… c) I figured that my tuition dollars and alumni donations put my access to the stadium over their 40 dollars they paid to get in….
Kind of ridiculous. Even the “nice” WVU fans told me it was okay for me to have a seat in my own teams stadium, like they’re the Goddamn authority over where ever they travel. I understand getting rowdy in your own stadium to a degree, but they’re just completely disrespectful and tasteless where ever they are. I even saw one guy try to fight an usher for telling him that he couldn’t smoke. No joke.
This would be a good time to delete the two WV blog links on the left of the top screen.
They haven’t been updated in over a year anyway.
I went to a Boston College @ WVU game in Morgantown when I was a young'n, maybe 2001 (Dad's a BC alum)
and I recall my dad holding his hands over my younger sister’s ears as we walked into the stadium, and a copious amount of thrown debris landing just feet away from us. I can also vividly remember seeing a BC fan pelted with a full, but open, beer can thrown from a passing truck. I can remember thinking that not only did it appear to hurt, but now this poor guy is covered in beer and probably some disgusting cretin’s piss, for the duration of the game. We flew in, and still had to drive quite some time to get to the stadium. The student section didn’t treat us any better. Nobody had a good time.
The point is: even a decade ago, my Dad spent probably $700 on this trip.. and the bulk of it was absolutely ruined by an inconsiderate and intolerable fanbase.
Enjoy, Big 12. Enjoy.
by OnceYouGoStrong on Nov 1, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
Went to Morgantown when Schnelly took his undefeated team there
We lost. We were in the UL section so I didn’t have to hear too much from the fans, until a group of them decided to stroll over and stand along the bottom wall to block our view as much as possible. they weren’t even facing the game, they were facing us, giving us the finger, swearing spitting, for easily the entire 4th quarter and probably some of the third. The only time they turned around was to spit on our cheer leaders down on the field.
To this day, and I’ve been to a bunch of road games in both bball and fball, I’ve never encountered a fan base like them, not even Kentuckys. Kentuckys fans big problem is arrogance, WVU’s fans big problem is everything.
"Kentuckys fans big problem is arrogance, WVU’s fans big problem is everything."
I think this about sums up everything I have been trying to say in this thread. Very well put.
-Dustin
All this talk kinda makes me want to go see this spectacle called Mountaineer Fan.
I might just stroll into the local “official” WVU bar here in Baltimore decked out in red Cards gear, Patrick Swazey style.
ROADHOUSE!
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by Red Rage06 on Nov 1, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lol
That Mullett was glorious
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by Chick-Stratino'sUrDaddy on Nov 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
As a Mountaineer fan...
…I have a lot of respect for Louisville and I want to remain conference partners. That being said, WVU isn’t the only school with rowdy fans.
In the 2006 game where U of L beat WVU in Louisville, I travelled there with the Mountaineer Maniacs. I was 18 years old and it was my first away game ever.
In the 3rd quarter or so I left to go to the bathroom and on my way back I bumped into a passing fan, which then caused me to pump into a fan standing in front of his seat. I didn’t knock him down or even unbalance him, and I did apologize, but he didn’t care. He wanted to fight me. He cussed me. So you’re probably thinking I egged him on; I didn’t.
I am not a big guy. 5’8" and about 165lbs. I’m not a confrontational guy. I tried to apologize to him, genuinely, and when I tried to continue on, he stepped in front of my path and grabbed my jersey.
He would have gone on with it had another fan not intervened and literally thrown him down 3 or 4 stairs. Yes, it was another Louisville fan, a BIG BIG guy, appalled at the way his schools fan was treating an opposing fan. This happens EVERYWHERE people.
I’m not attacking or even saying Louisville is as bad as WVU fans, though that wasn’t the only incident that occured that night, it was the only one I was personally involved in, though I saw other L’ville fans throwing things and cussing at Mountaineer fans, and I’m sure Mounties returned the favor sometimes.
West Virginia is a rowdy place to play, and if what the dance team says is true, then I am truely regretful out our fans’ actions. But why is it that we’re just now hearing about this? Any other team anything remotely similar happens it’s all over the local papers, if not ESPN. It’s kind of convenient for this to come up now. I’m not saying it didn’t happen, I have no way of knowing, but I am skeptical.
Regardless, I look forward to the game. I’ll be there. I have a lot of respect for the Louisville program and HCCS. Hope I see some of you guys there.
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Nov 1, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions
I'm going to use a WV Fan's quote from your board
Link(s) or it didn’t happen.
We all know stuff like this happens. Were you physically harmed? NO! Did a UofL Fan step in to stop it? Yes. Would the same have happened if the stadiums were reversed and a UofL fan was in your shoes? We’ll never know, but we try to police ourselves up – in here too. I’ve not heard too many stories of y’all policing your own.
And on the story of the beating of the LSU fans, I’m going to go with a meme that was on your board too IRT that: “It was just a random act of violence – and not football fan related” – to use someone’s words from there, I find that argument “convenient”, especially given the circumstances. I remember reading that article too and from what I remember (it’s been a few weeks), the perception was that they were targeted for being LSU fans.
GO! CARDS!
BEAT!
PURDUE!
I wasn't
attacking Louisville. You made my point for me. EVERY fanbase has their good guys and their douches. Was a physically harmed? He ripped my jersey, his intent was to physically harm me, but another good guy fan stepped in and stopped it. I can’t exactly give you a link to something that happened to me personally. If I was trying to villify U of L, I would have left out the fan that saved my ass.
And if you’d have read the article, the victim’s family is openly acknowledging that they had nothing to insinuate that they were LSU fans and acknowledged that it was a "random act of violence.
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Nov 1, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Also must consider that if you bump into certain dumb(expletive edited)s anywhere
no matter how much you apologize or whatever, they’re still going to act a fool – regardless of fan/university affiliation – even fans of the same team. No excuse for his actions, but you have no idea what was going through his head either. You did bump him and I’m not calling you a punk or anything of the sort, but there were plenty of PUNKs in my HS that would have “accidentally” bumped into someone and given a sarcastic “sorry” or “excuse me”.
GO! CARDS!
BEAT!
PURDUE!
Obviously I can't prove it
but I wasn’t sarcastic about it. I’m a pretty quiet guy. Not confrontational. Definitely not the kind of guy who goes looking for fights; I’m not fond of getting my ass kicked, I’m a pretty small dude.
That being said I agree with you. I’m not really trying to start a fight with you, either, I just hate that a few fans have given this reputation to our university.
Anyway, I’ll be at the game Saturday, so I hope I see some of you there, and if I do see some assholes giving Louisville fans a hard time (beyond the occasional jawing) I will step in. Good luck Saturday, gents!
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Nov 2, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Right the Perception.
The images of Blue and Gold clad WVU fans standing over a LSU fan wearing purple are simply false. What happened was an altercation. The victim was apparently in Morgantown supporting LSU (even though they had no visible indicators on their vehicle or persons that they were LSU fans, according to the victims mother). They somehow got into it with some people. There have been no reports that indicated that the perpetrators were wearing WVU gold and blue. So to say that LSU fans were attacked by WVU fans is ridiculous and dishonest.
Here is a link to a reputable news source quoting the victim as saying the incident wasn’t football related:
Imagine if there was a road rage incident in Louisville, after a football game, in which some Kentucky fans were injured. Is it honest or fair or right to post a news Article “Kentucky fans attacked after Louisville game”
The people attacked were actually from Pittsburgh. Should we label every altercation between folks that live in Pittsburgh and folks that live in Morgantown, as an artifact of the Pitt-WVU rivalry.
Come on now.
I don’t even deny that we have a bad reputation. I know we do. I used to burn couches whenever possible as a student. But WVU is not an inherently unsafe place for opposing fans. If it was why do people keep coming back? Why does the Big East, not say to us “Don’t let the door hit your a$$ on the way out?” Why is the visiting section going to be filled with Cards on Saturday?
How many articles need to be written about the WV fanbase before you all beleive?
Should every event be reported by the media, otherwise it is not true? Someone on the outside looking in base on past actions has no reason NOT to believe what the dance team and university said happen last year. Yeah we have bad fans, but like your story, we have many more fans that are willing to stand up for their school and protect our image (i.e. the guy that grabbed the fan harassing you). In the recent story about the couple that was nearly beaten to death, NO ONE STOPPED THEM. There had to be hundreds of people that witnessed this as they were waiting in traffic to leave the game.
I think the main reason all this is being brought up now is because we have poured a whole semi of gasoline on the rivalry and alot of people think it will be nasty, including myself.
-Dustin
disclaimer
I have no problems with you or Jotorious, you both seem like level headed people and I think alot of this is healthy discussion.
-Dustin
Agreed.
It’s easy for us, as the average normal fan, to get a little offended in this discussion, and it’s not because you guys are wrong, because you’re not completely, but it’s because this is an institution we love and have devoted a lot of our time to and it hurts a little for us to see it be attacked. I know we’ve earned our reputation, however, and I hope we continue to improve this. WVU is genuinely not an unsafe place for visiting fans. I’ve never witnessed a serious altercation between home and visiting fans. As a matter of fact, I’ve been to MANY home games, and I’ve honestly never even seen a burning couch, even before it was made a felony. lol Not saying it doesn’t happen, I know it does, but it’s not like there’s a burning couch on every corner like the media or others would have you believe.
Good luck on Saturday, guys. I hope I see some of you there.
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Nov 2, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
II'll be there in section 221. Rocking Gold and Blue.
And under no circumstances do any UofL fans need to be worried that I’m gonna threaten or assault them.
wait wait wait
so its mainly the student section that harasses everyone since the opposing team fans enter the stadium with them!! wtf I mean really what self respecting 18-22yr old acts like that!!
groupthink.
(lots of them – depending on who with them, the situation and circumstances surrounding it, reputation, etc.)
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PURDUE!
WVU's entrance standards & in-state tuition rates are low while its acceptance rate (86%) is high
Probably a contributing factor
by UL is my hot hot sex on Nov 2, 2011 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't Blame WV
I was born and raised in WV. Nicest people you’ll ever meet. Most of the students from WVU aren’t from WV, they’re from New Jersey. Don’t judge the entire state by the school. I’ve gone to plenty of WVU games and you can always pick out the ones from New Jersey, and for the majority of the time, they’re the ones causing trouble.
Oh God. Don't even start this it's the Out of Staters Nonsense.
It’s amazing. The Good People of WV love their WVU when things are good, but when something bad about WVU fans gets highlighted, somehow the Native WV’ns aren’t part of it. The Stadium holds 60K, the Student section is 14K, subtract out some for visiting team fans, and you have 40-odd thousand fans that aren’t students.
The Majority of Students from whatever state, OH, WV, VA, PA, MD, DE, NY, or NJ are fine. As are the Majority of Fans from wherever they hail.
Yeah, because all the bad press WVU has gotten over the years, is all due to students from NJ? Please, that is more ridiculous than the amount of attention that various blogs and fan based websites are focusing on the this ridiculous notion that Morgantown is unsafe for visiting fans.
Bottom line. There are DBags in every stadium. Avoid ’em, ignore ’em, make friends with ’em, do something, But can everybody quit with these wild generizations, such as all WVU Fans are psychotic, or that all the Troublemakers at WVU are from NJ?
a band i used to be in had a lead singer from west virginia
he’s everything you’d expect from a west virginian. snaggle tooth. cheated on his wife before and during her pregnancy. told me he planned a night where he could get to NYC, kill a prostitue and be back in WV before the sun came up. not to mention the absessed tooth he refused to get cleaned and fixed so his breath ending up smelling like a rotten asshole
notice i said band i used to be in.
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
Oh, fuck you.
West Virginians haven’t done anything to you, and the West Virginians on this board right now are just having a reasonable discussion with you guys. Making stupid comments like this just increases hostilities and are why stupid things happen to begin with. There’s a prick like you on every board, including the Musket, and it makes me think twice before posting on others teams’ boards.
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Nov 2, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAH wtf. WV residents have never done anythign to me? you sir are a fucking idiot. you don't even know me
should i go on to say that said individual owes me close to 8 grand. another 10 grand to the rest of my ex band mates. stole a van from my best friend. walked IN TO my house and stole a guitar from me, all while telling my g/f “you move and i WILL hit you”
umm threw a full beer at the field during the ’07 WVU/UL game b/c he “is just that hardcore of a mountaineer fan”
his 3 bandmates before us all were arrested for pushing a homless man into oncoming traffic in 2001, b/c he asked for money and they were drunk. somewhere near hurricane,WV.
do i also have to mention the wild and wonderful whites of west virginia? “he owed me money so i shot him in the face with a shotgun.”
i could go on with the amount of stupidity and harm i have seen residents of your wonderful state do to my friends and other people. but it’s really ok…its not any better in appalachia anyways.
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
Dude.
Tarheels football and basketball? wtf?
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Nov 3, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
my g/f set this account up. i don't even know wtf half of my profile even says.
good to know someone actually looked at it though…i think
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
oh god yeah...MAN U.....jesus christ. yeah shes got this all fucked up.
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
Well she got City Scoot correct.
How does City Scoot do anyway? Pretty well? Thought of the concept a while back, but then I heard you talk about it and didn’t feel as brilliant. Nothing like it around where I live…. yet.
ALL HAIL
by Cardinal_Pride on Nov 3, 2011 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions
haha its really not that brilliant. everyone has had the idea of a DD service.
My boss just acted on it before anyone else. The business itself has been around for 7 years and has taken home close to 80,000 people. We work with brown dormant and di’aggio to give customer discounts.
up until 3 weeks ago we had gone 7 years without a wreck of any sorts. I was then hit by a drunk driver in a customers car. Thankfully defensive driving
actually does work
Don’t know where you live but many other companies like CS tried to start up but failed
i wanna get chocolate wasted!!!!!
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