March 2008 Me Would Have Loved This Picture, Guessed Wrongly About The Future
by CardsFan922 on Jan 12, 2011 2:23 PM EST
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"Samardo Samuels is the best player on the Cavaliers."
- CardFan922 1/10/11
I am obviously not privy to all the details surrounding DC's departure...
But I still consider it one of the biggest disappointments of Rick’s tenure. Despite some of the flaws in Samardo’s game, a frontcourt of Earl, T-Will, DC/Samardo, and TJ would have been unbelievable.
by cardsinindy2010 on Jan 12, 2011 2:57 PM EST reply actions
I'm not big on DC
he was a drain on the team and almost talked Earl into leaving. Screw him,
BASKETBALL!
by Irememberwheat! on Jan 12, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't know much about those internal dynamics, and I'm sure Rick had good reasons for wanting DC gone.
Because he always had a world of talent. Rick wouldn’t send him packing without some really good reason.
by cardsinindy2010 on Jan 12, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Rick gave DC more chances than he deserved IMO.
He suspended him and then let him back so many times I lost count. But, there’s no doubt about how talented he was. If he would have had his head on straight we might have won at UNC in the elite 8 that year. Instead DP had to go the whole game on Tyler “the-great-white-hack-you-every-dam-time-you-touch-the-DAM-ball-and-don’t-get-called-for-it” Hansbrough. I’ll never forget how Padget’s arms looked as he waled off the floor that night. He had so many red marks and scratches that CSI could have built a Capitol Murder Case against Hansbrough from all ov David’s DNA under his finger nails. BS, I’ll go to my grave saying those refs had it in for us. Anyone remember who worked that game?
by 0nest_Abe on Jan 12, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Padgett
I started to post “Over and under on how long until Padgett is a coach at UofL?”, decided to first wiki him to see where he is these days and saw … he’s the assistant strength coach at UofL.
D’oh.
by Leeroy Jenkins on Jan 12, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
He's always right behind Rick at the games
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
Hansbrough - the master of wildly throwing his body into defender and getting cheap foul calls from bad college refs.
Can’t stand him. Glad he sucks as a pro.
by cardsinindy2010 on Jan 12, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Nothing with regard to our coaches behavior in his personal life, or his track record as coach at U of L, would indicate that it is the coach who does not have his head on straight. It must all be these underacheiving players faults.
by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Goddamn it
That’s all I have to say
by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 12, 2011 3:01 PM EST reply actions
1-21
With the Cavs having only one win in their last 21 games I think any of us could be their best player!
This would have been interesting for sure...
but if DC was still here, I don’t think we would have gotten SamSam. My feeling is that he mainly came to play for the Cards because he would get early playing time and then could jump to the league as soon as possible.
Is Sam awake....?
That same (d’oh..what do I do) look that was on his face every time he took the floor.
DC palming the ball? Samardo playing defense with his eyes closed?
Okay, okay. I’m happy for both of them. Surprised, but happy nonetheless.
Surprised?
Look at the guy on the bench and his track record at U of L. In retrospect not surprising at all.
Just a thought
How about a controlling narcissistic coach who actually can hold back the development of talented players by over coaching them and putting them in his “dog house” when they do not respond well to him. He played Samuals out of postion the entire time he was here. It is not as if we have not seen a whole line of underacheiving players, and the way he criticizes them publicly shows a complete lack of class. Why is this guy still here?
Nothing like...
half of a fan base with their head in the sand. Enjoy your “man” while he is here I guess.
So...
You see UofL letting Pitino go and the media and fans rejoicing? There is no better fit for our program.
No better fit?
What the hell are you basing that on? Louisville is a top 10 for sure, and probably top five job in the nation! VERY FEW coaches would turn it down. How is a coach who was hired to go to Final Fours and compete for the occasional NC, and has basically failed at that for 10 years, and on top of that disgraced the University and its fans with a national sex scandal the best fit for our proud program? Yes…A LOT of fans would rejoice at his leaving. I heard Tony Venntti say the UK fans were deluisonal and arrogant, and the U of L fans have an inferiority complex. I have to agree. It is as if a substantial portion of the fan base does not truly believe that we deserve better. MUCH better. Why are you satified with ONE FF and ONE HUGE national sex scandal in ten years? Are you still caught up in the fantasy of when he got hired? Be sure and keep a big smile in your face when you eat that next shit sandwich he serves up to you.
Not a "TRUE" fan
I LOVE it! LOL! I have no desire to insult or attack any fellow CARD fans, but I just have to say WAKE UP! I’m listening to Lach on WHAS now, and it is nothing but a string of callers saying about the same thing that I am. This is pathetic. I for one am fed up with the BS. Empty promises. Year after year after year. NEXT YEAR he gets his chance to redeem himself. We will see if he does so, or if the players coming in end up like the two pictured above. A lot of Louisville fans are way too nice. We deserve MUCH better. This guy is geting a top 5 salary and he is not producing. PERIOD. Over and above that fact he disgraced us. GREAT!
by scorpiocard on Jan 12, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
We get it. You hate Pitino.
"Screech, you CAN'T elope!"
"Who are you calling a cantaloupe, you melonhead?"
Hate is a strong word
He IS NOT doing the job he was hired and is getting paid to do. PERIOD.
by scorpiocard on Jan 13, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
And by the way, I'm sure you thought this same thing a whole, long, two years ago~
"Enes Kantplay"
-Gorgui Dieng
After I saw Tom Izzo hand him his ass on a platter...
with a less talented team. You bet your ass I did. The guy has never been a good x and o coach. His early years trick of using the three ball and having his team more conditoned is old news. Everybody does it now. He is out of tricks. In ten years he has hardly put any players in the NBA. And two of the ones that ended up there are living examples of his inablitly to be a top 5 coach in todays world. (See picture above).
Sooo
If we put 5 players in the NBA its the best day in the history of UL athletics? Amazing…
"Enes Kantplay"
-Gorgui Dieng
Not something I would say...
What has UK and John Calipari got to do with this? This is about U of L and Rick Pitino. I don’t care about UK other than beating them. If you are going to debate with me, then please keep it intelligent and rational.
by scorpiocard on Jan 14, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
This is the same type fan
Who calls for RP to be dismissed-but always fails to mention who would be a better fit. So enlighten us, and go ahead and apply for Jurichs job while you’re at it.
by twistedwedge on Jan 13, 2011 8:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
OK
I’ll give you two right off the bat that I like. Billy Donovan and Thad Motta. Brad Stevens is another possibility. As you metioned, this is Jurich’s job, not mine. Just because you are not aware of any coaches out there that would be better for U of L does not mean that there are not any. This is the typical attitude I get from Pitino defenders (and if you are paying attention there are fewer and fewer of you everyday). We can’t get anyone better. WHAT THE HELL? What has been so great about his performance at U of L that tells you nobody could do better? We are paying top five salary (at one time top salary) to a coach who claimed he would come in here and compete for NCs. He has not even sniffed the final game (there is no way the 05 team could have won the title). I don’t think being disatisfied with Pitino obligates me to name replacements, but I have given you three possibilties. It is not my fault you have your head in the sand and enjoy getting bent over year after year. Hey! Maybe he will regroup and win a NC at U of L. Its possible, but I would not bet on it.
Alright
Billy Donovan-other than the back to back championships, what has he done? Since then? Brad Stephens is a great up and comer but can he compete in a power conference? Thad Matta to me is a decent coach, but there always seems to be question marks surrounding recruiting etc.
To me-how can you call for Ricks head after what he’s done here? You think Matta or Donovan could have done the same?
I think that what we fail to notice here is Louisville isn’t one of the schools that most would group with the UNC Kansas UK etc of the world. When most people think of prestige those schools come to mind.
Could we attract a Roy Williams? Me thinks not.
by twistedwedge on Jan 13, 2011 12:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES
“Billy Donovan-other than the back to back championships, what has he done? Since then”?
Did you really just say that?!?!?
Yeah…back to back titles…Ho Hum…Yawn
What has he done? He’s stuck at a school, in a conference, who cares nothing about basketball! I’m sure he is comfortable, but he almost left once anyway. If a marquee college job became available to him I am sure he would do VERY well there. He keeps Florida relevant which is no small feat!
Questions about Matta? I’m not sure what you mean. Enlighten me. I know he keeps his team in the top 10 and competing for NCs and is at a football first school. Current ranking…#2 both polls.
Stevens has proved his mettle. Yes I believe he could compete in a power conference with the resourses available to him. I don’t know for sure, but why would you think he could not?
I don’t know how old you are, but U of L was at one time considered just a tick below the programs you mention. We are the #1 most profitable program in the nation, and we have ranked in the top FIVE in the nation in attendance for 29 straight years! Denny’s last years drug us down a little, but Quicky was hired specifically to get us back to that level. He claimed he would! He is getting paid a salary that is consistant with preforming at that level. THAT IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE!
Your post is a perfect example of the inferiority complex I mentioned, that way too many Cardinal fans have. That we some how do not deserve to be at the top…even though we hired a coach with the specific responsibility assigned to him to get us there, and are paying him to do a job he is not getting done. We absolutely without a doubt have the resourses and fan support and tradition that we should be a perennial top 10 program.
Do I think Donovan or Matta could have done the same? WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT???? They have both done MORE with LESS to work with! WAKE UP! ONE FF and ONE underacheiving #1 seed year! YOU THINK THAT IS GOOD?!?!?!?!?!?
While we are at it, lets throw another name in the mix. Jay Wright. In the top 10 and competing to get in the FF year in and year out at a little Catholic school (that admittedly has tradition, but not as much as U of L), and plays most home games in a cracker box gym.
We could not attrack Roy Williams himself, but could we attrack “A” Roy Williams? (Tops in profit and now a lock for #3 in attendanc) YES! Me KNOWS we can. Me thinks you have an inferiority complex (as a fan) and set the bar WAY to low for what it should be set at U of L.
Than again, like the emperor’s new clothes, maybe I am just to stupid and not worthy enough to see the brilliance of Quicky’s tenure here. Or maybe you and a lot of other fans (a rapidly decreasing number I will say) are just like the people in that story…you see what you want to see.
by scorpiocard on Jan 14, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry
Attract, not attrack. Duh…same typo twice
by scorpiocard on Jan 14, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES part 2
You mention that you think we could not get “a” Roy Williams. How quickly we forget, that when Quicky was hired here he was considered the hottest property in college coaching. HE WAS HIRED TO BE OUR ROY WILLIAMS. And he CLAIMED he would be. He was and is being paid to be. At one time #1 salary in the nation. Considering his overall performance he has us failed so far. Considering his sex scandal he has us FAILED MISERABLY!
It is amazing to me that it is so easy for so many here to sweep under the rug the fact that a 50 year old man in the postion of stature and responsibilty that he is, and is out getting drunk and having unprotected sex in a closed restaurant with a strange woman he met all of 2-3 hours prior has an OBVIOUS problem. I used to own an establishment near Porcinis that Quicky also frequented. I know Tim Coury. I am not saying Tim told me this, but if you think that this is the only time it happend and she is the only star fucking bimbo in his life, I have a bridge I would like to sell you. Do you and the rest of his defenders not realize that feeding a sick habit/habits can and does effect one’s job performance?
I do not dispute what you say about those top three (or four with UCLA thrown in) programs, but lets look at the title count in 1986.
KY 5
U L 2
UNC 2
Kan 1
10 years later when Quicky won UK’s 6th it was still
KY 6
UNC 3
UL 2
KAN 2
Open your eyes!
by scorpiocard on Jan 14, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry again...
FAILED US! I added us in the wrong place. I’m done for now.
by scorpiocard on Jan 14, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Larry O'Bannon quote (approixmate, not exact)
I never could really dunk well when I was at U of L. Now I can dunk great. My legs were always too tired when I was at U of L.
He over conditions and wares players out. They routinely get hurt in practice. If you cannot see this then it is simply you inabilty to pick up on it. Have you ever wondered why we always have so many players hurt every year? He brings in talented froshmen and breaks them down and teaches them the “Pitino way”, and his overly controlling ways basically saps them of their will. He yanks players from the game at the slightest mistake, instead of giving them a chance to play through it. It is a well know fact that he is a bear if anybody questions him about anything. Add to this the well known, and now proven fact that he never has matured beyond the level of a drunken frat boy with his sexual behaviors, and it is apparent that the guy has issues.
Yeah, Padgett definitely got hurt while he was here
A few times.
by Mike Rutherford on Jan 13, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Just saying that a practice style is a fantabulous reason to fire a coach...
"Enes Kantplay"
-Gorgui Dieng
Who said that was the ONLY reason?
Hey! He gets his chance next year. If he lays an egg he needs to go.
by scorpiocard on Jan 14, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
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