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Samardo Samuels officially throws his name into the NBA Draft discussion

First off, here's the statement that Rick Pitino issued yesterday:

"After lengthy conversations with Samardo and his family, they would like to have him test the waters with the NBA draft. He will not hire an agent and I will orchestrate his NBA visits from my office. I have reviewed the status where Samardo stands at this time and all aspects of the process with his family. I respect his family's wishes to test the waters and support them 100 percent."

And now, here's Mike Rutherford's statement:

"I'm not sure what the hell Samardo is doing."

The odds of Samuels not returning to Louisville for his junior season are minimal, but I don't think that's the issue here. It's easy to brush this off and say well why wouldn't you "test the waters" if you're a potential NBA prospect who could easily return to school should things not go well over the summer, but a guy whose maturity has been questioned ad nauseum over the past two seasons believing he has a realistic shot at being drafted this summer and throwing his name into the mix against the wishes (or knowledge, apparently) of his head coach is something I find troubling. 

Samardo needs to get better, a lot better, but first I think he needs to get it through his head that he's never going to dominate the game the way he did when he was 17. He isn't that guy anymore and he's never going to be that guy again. Perhaps being humbled at camps over the next eight weeks will do the trick, but it's worrisome that having nothing more than a third team All Big East plaque after two years of top-shelf D-1 college basketball hasn't already. 

In terms of the prospects of the season that lies ahead, this is as important a summer for Louisville basketball as I can remember. I don't think there's any way this group can compete for a Big East or national title, but unless a lot of these guys with comparable skills put in considerable work and start distinguishing themselves from the folks they're competing for PT with, this is going to be another year where we don't get to toast a tournament victory. 

The fact that the player who should be the leader and go-to-guy of the 2011-2012 Cards is making a choice like this in late April isn't exactly a great start. 

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I would have to disagree

with your assessment that this team won’t compete for a Big East or NCAA title. Although we have a few flaws, I think we’ll make the improvements needed to compete. I for one think this is a sweet 16 team or better next year.

"You win some, You lose some but you never stop trying to do your best" Denny Crum

by DANCARD on Apr 21, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

We have potential

if Samardo leaves, which he won’t (there were times last year against lesser competition he looked lost and undisciplined), we will have to give Terrence Jennings a few games to get used to being the guy in the middle. I like TJ’s defensive effort much more the SS anyways.

by cards4life1 on Apr 21, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree Dan

If we don’t lose smardo I think we’ll be a better team this year. Siva might not play as well in his 2nd year as sosa did in his 4th, but i think the difference will be negligible.
Next years big question will be the same as this years, do we have a leader? Quite honestly I never counted on Smardo to fill that role, as immature as he’s been thus far. It’s going to have to be a Preston or a Siva, I can’t see anyone else doing it.

Maybe Jennings puts it together in the off season and becomes a dedicated and vocal part of the team. Maybe Swop finds his voice (and a cheeseburger) and becomes that guy. I dunno, but I still feel like the biggest problem last year was total lack of leadership.

by dlpfis79 on Apr 21, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not so sure Samardo really wants to go pro now.

Pitino’s comments make it sound like his family is really pushing him to go. Can’t necessarily blame them for wanting their son to make money in the NBA, but I am a little bit surprised that they apparently don’t follow much of the draft talk, as I can’t recall anyone saying anything about SS getting drafted this year.

I do like that Pitino is going to make everything go through his office, as should eliminate the chance for SS to make a stupid mistake and then become ineligible.

by CardinalDude on Apr 21, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

There's an air of unreality to all of this

Has Samardo watched the tapes of his games the past two years? Has he watched himself disappear against talented opponents? Has he seen daylight beneath his feet when he tries to jump? I could go on and on, but the point is this: If he’s dealing with truth and reality, he realizes there’s no way he can make a paycheck in the NBA. Certainly not now; perhaps not ever. Hard work would help and maybe that sudden dose of reality this summer’s NBA flirtations will bring will produce a willingness to get back to into the gym.

Samardo needs to work hard at getting better. That’s the only way his dreams will ever come true.

theoldman

by theoldman on Apr 21, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

The question I have is

What’s Samardo Thinking? Something tells me that he doesn’t want to play for Pitino. I think in his mind Pitino is holding him back. You could tell a couple of times last year that Samardo was zoning Coach out and wasn’t listening to him. He may be just another spoiled know it all McDonalds AA and thinks he didn’t need coaching or development, just exposure. Now he sees players like Daniel Orton going to the draft averaging 3pts and 2rbs and he thinks why not him. He was expecting to come in and dominate for a year or two and go to the NBA. He hasn’t realized that the Big East exposed his weaknesses and there are quite a few. If he had gone to a smaller school where they may not have been very good but he would been given full reigns to do whatever he wants on the floor he would be in the NBA right now. I’m only guessing as to what he’s thinking but it kind of makes sense.

"You win some, You lose some but you never stop trying to do your best" Denny Crum

by DANCARD on Apr 21, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Why Not?

Obviously I’m a UK fan but I have no idea why you guys are being so hard on Samuels. I don’t think he is ready for the NBA but putting your name in the draft can be beneficial as long as he doesn’t hire an agent. This way he can talk to scouts and find out what he needs to work on. Then he can come back next year, work on those things the NBA scouts told him, and hopefully be a better player for UL. I honestly so no way this hurts UL as long as he doesn’t stay in the draft.

by UKAndrew on Apr 21, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it's hard for us to understand.

Maybe it’s like being close to finishing a pre-med degree and telling your friends, family, profs that you are going to start applying for doctor positions at various hospitals across town.

Is this too much of a stretch? Analogies anyone?

by CtotheAtotheRtotheDtotheS on Apr 21, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well with a pre-med degree, you couldn’t be a doctor. Maybe having a just barely passing your driver’s test, getting in a bunch of wrecks, and amassing alot of speeding tickets and thinking hey i can drive and pretty fast, i want to race NASCAR.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on Apr 21, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If his family needs the money

and are scared of the lockout, I see where they are coming from. With the deadline being May 8, we really won’t have to wait too long to find out if he stays in the draft.

by cardscott5 on Apr 21, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

We're definitely going to be competing for a Big east title next year.

I see lots of good things for this team. More floor time for the guys who were losing space to the seniors last season will let them develop more quickly. Siva is better than Sosa. Sorry, he is. I know that when someone goes four and shows heart we want to gold plate their career, but Sosa was a spotty guy. Like Bilas said – he kept both teams in every game.
I do think that we need samardo back, and I think he’s going to stay. I can’t imagine where in a field of 60 players he thinks he’s going to get drafted. He’ll do the workouts, he’ll get some good indications of where he needs to improve (dramatically) and hopefully he comes back next year totally focused on being the kind of player that is a lottery pick. If he does that, then we’re going to be really good.
Buckles is going to be tough next year and I think we’re going to get good minutes out of Kuric and Marra, and for that senior leadership who would you rather have then Preston!?

I can’t wait for next season.

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by ericdedwar on Apr 21, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Personally I think the decision is mostly his family pushing him

so he can’t even possibly flirt with a Senior Season. You can only put you name in twice so Samardo must go pro after his Junior season.

For Rick, it’s a bit of an ego thing. He knows (just like everyone else) that SS isn’t ready and he made sure to point it all out to the media as well. I think this offended SS’s family and they want to make sure that SS goes after next season.

Lastly all this talk about how crappy of a big man coach Rick is…(as Ocho would say) child please. Samuels wouldn’t have went pro after his freshman or soph. years no matter what school he attended. (or TJ or DC for that matter) The guy hasn’t listened to what aspects of his game he needs to work on from CRP. I’ll guarentee the NBA scouts will tell Samuels the same things Pitino has already pointed out and hopefully that’ll encourage him to really work at his rebounding, face the basket and mid-range game.

by Remote Cardinal on Apr 21, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I should clarify...

the NCAA will only let you withdraw from the NBA Draft once and return to college. The NBA will allow you to withdraw twice.

by Remote Cardinal on Apr 21, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Thomas at ND

declared after his soph season, and came back. He didn’t do so hot that junior year, so he came back for his senior year. But the point remains, you can’t declare twice for the NBA draft without forfeiting your NCAA eligibility. Speaking of, has there been a final determination on Patrick Patterson?

by irish2705 on Apr 21, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

From those close to SS

I’ve heard that he actually doesn’t like it here all that much. Sure, he enjoys playing ball, and he gets along with his teammates (especially Chris Smith) but I’ve heard that his heart was set on UNC, but he wasn’t going to be eligible to play there. Louisville presented itself as a good opportunity, so he took it.

Doesn’t necessarily make him any more/less likely to return, just throwing out that info

by irish2705 on Apr 21, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

If that's true

then I’d be fine with him leaving.

"You win some, You lose some but you never stop trying to do your best" Denny Crum

by DANCARD on Apr 21, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Samardo catches too much flak for his deficiencies, and if he returns, he is crucial to our success next year. But if he isn’t interested in the college game generally or Louisville specifically, then I would rather have somebody who is hungry to prove himself here.

by cardsinindy2010 on Apr 21, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what i’ve heard as well, atleast about his joy of being here.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on Apr 21, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Silver Lining

Maybe I’ve just been drinking the Kool-Aid for too long, but maybe this is the best thing that could happen for us.

Point #1: Samardo will be shown that he’s not ready for the NBA (nor will he ever be at the rate he’s progressing) and will hopefully have a renewed vigour to work on the weaker points of his game. Maybe Samardo will realize that CRP isn’t full of crap when he tells Samuels to work on his rebounding, defense, and hustle.

Point #2: Chandler and Dieng will see that Samardo intends to enter the draft ASAP, therefore opening up what promises to be a considerable amount of playing time during the 2011-2012 season.

So not only might it help our immediate situation next year with Samardo being motivated to increase his draft stock, but it could also have a positive impact on recruiting.

by SpeedStudent on Apr 21, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't hate you for being positive but far too many ifs

Right now, this is a very negative situation IMO. Just as there’s a chance that this situation could introduce all these silver lining scenarios that you mention, it could just as easily cause a very bad domino effect with recruiting, Samardo’s absence, etc…

by UL is my hot hot sex on Apr 21, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been told Samardo does not like Coach Pitino at all and that had an effect on his decision.

They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best

About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback

by Villeslgr on Apr 21, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

this surprises me

Why would be pick UL in the first place? I can see him not liking the city and campus due to him only visiting once or twice, and students might not have been around, but I would have thought he’d have a pretty good idea what Coach P was all about

by irish2705 on Apr 21, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides, if he didn't like Pitino...

why didn’t he transfer after his freshman season? I’ll guarantee Pitino was just as hard if not harder on him that freshman year as last season.

This is all really simple guys. Samuels isn’t going pro. The scouts will tell him so. He’ll return and it’s up to him whether he wants to improve his game or not.

Based on the interviews I’ve seen him in, where Samardo Samuels himself is speaking, I think he’ll put in the work required to improve. Too many people put way too much emphasis on Samuels’ pouty face like this picture.

He’s a kid that shows emotions and can’t hide them. He’s the kind of guy you know when you are in his head. You’ll always know when he’s happy or sad or upset or lying. He’d make a horrible poker player. Under that annoyed and pouty face is a lot of heart and I think he’ll show it in the offseason and next year…for our beloved Cardinals.

by Remote Cardinal on Apr 21, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Echo the same info

Have heard from some very good sources that Mardo does not like Pitino and feels that he rides him unfairly. He didn’t transfer after his freshman year because he didn’t want to sit out a year AND he thought he would be able to go pro now. He wanted to be one and done but decided to wait two. He NEVER expected to be here 3 years and I guarantee he will be gone after next season no matter what.

Mardo is pretty immature and really has a hard time seeing his deficits. His family knows he is unhappy and trying to help in their own way. I suspect that Mardo didn’t feel he could tell Pitino he wanted to test the waters (afraid of his reaction) so he told his parents and they went the the National team coach from last summer (where he played well).

He needs another season for sure but it will be interesting to see how Pitino takes this backhanded way of getting information.

by cardhoopfan on Apr 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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