Cincinnati 69, Louisville 66
by Mike Rutherford on Mar 11, 2010 3:21 PM EST
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PrintI've never followed a team less capable of handling any type of success. In order to play near their potential, these guys need constant visual reminders (scoreboards) that they aren't that good.
When a Louisville lead is built, strange things start happening. People begin taking shots they wouldn't normally take (Jennings) because, you know, it's a big lead, I've earned it. People stop chasing after rebounds (Swop, Samardo) because, you know, someone else will go get it if I put a body on someone near me. People stop playing defense (Sosa) because, you know, I'm scoring a lot of points and we're winning, two facts that couldn't possibly be altered by my defensive performance.
This is the type of stuff you'd expect to deal with if you're coaching or following a 6th grade "C" team, not a program coming off of dual Big East championships.
It's insanely frustrating and it's the reason a part of me (a very small part) is ready to welcome the calm and sport-less month of April with open arms.
Grab a goddamn rebound.
I'm leaving for a weekend in Las Vegas one week from today. If Preston Knowles' ankle is injured and he has to miss the NCAA Tournament, I won't go out of protest. I'm not sure what I'd be protesting (ankles?), but it feels like the right thing to do.
If we're down five at halftime of our tournament game and I'm at a Sports Book that offers second half betting, well then I hope you'll enjoy attending games inside "Mike Rutherford Presents: Preston Knowles and Art Carmody Rule Cardinal Arena."
I'll also put a stipulation in my contract that says the name can never be abbreviated. SIDs will learn to deal.
Performance put aside for the moment, I cannot stand the way Samardo Samuels walks everywhere on the floor. It's one thing if you're an NBA All-Star center (it's still annoying, but at least you can't be accused of carrying an undeserved sense of accomplishment around), but it's another if you're a former national high school player of the year whose crowning collegiate achievement after two seasons is a questionable third team all-conference selection.
Samardo needs to quickly understand that he's 6-9, not 7-2. It doesn't matter how much his offensive skills improve this offseason, no one in the NBA is going to draft someone his size who appears as unwilling to rebound or play defense as Samuels does. A drastic increase in attitude and effort is his only ticket into the league at this point.
In terms of seeding, if I knew for a fact that we would have lost to West Virginia tonight, last night's loss would have been a lot easier to stomach because I think we played ourselves out of the 8/9 death game and probably into a 10 or 11 (please) situation. A win over Cincy followed by a loss to the Mountaineers and we're probably still an eight, which is basically identical to being a nine and not as good as being a ten.
But in terms of psyche, I think the loss was awful. Louisville's first round opponent is going to be better than Cincinnati, and now the Cardinals head into that game with their most recent performance being a lackluster one against a sloppy opponent. Losing to a good team and coming off of a game that featured a higher quality of play would have been much better for this team's mentality.
We really miss Andre McGee's defensive intensity, but less talked about was his ability to get the ball in the hands of the right guy in the right place at the right time.
Last night, down by two and with the game on the line, Edgar Sosa had a wide-open Reggie Delk - in the midst of a monster RRG (Random Reggie Game) - in the corner for three, but instead opted to give the ball to an equally wide-open Jared Swopshire, poised to take a baseline jumper no one outside of his former AAU coach had any faith in.
Lance Stephenson ripping the ball away from Swop so viciously that it knocked him to the ground coupled by the ensuing stare down was as proper a microcosm for a game as I've ever seen.
Not sure if it's his defense or just his overall aura, but this team is f---ing awful when Jerry Smith doesn't suit up.
The following is the bulk of The New York Time's postgame write-up.
Time has passed, and Sosa still has his maddening moments. For all the 3-pointers he knocked down and his explosive dribbling through Cincinnati’s press, Sosa’s decision-making — both on defense and offense — is still suspect at times, as it was Wednesday in Louisville’s 69-66 defeat to Cincinnati in the second round of the Big East tournament.
Several times Wednesday night, Pitino could be heard in an otherwise quiet Garden asking his point guard, "What are you doing?" What Louisville was not doing was winning, and as a result Cincinnati will play No. 3 West Virginia Thursday night in the quarterfinals.
Sosa finished with 28 points, shooting 10 of 16 from the field, including 5 of 6 from 3-point range. Forever looking to impress the Garden crowd, Sosa watched fellow New Yorker Lance Stephenson (12 points) seal a Bearcat win for the second straight night. Stephenson, once thought go be bound for the N.B.A. after one season, said he still had room to grow and would be back next season.
Fair or unfair, I think Sosa's Louisville legacy is already cemented. The only thing that could change it at this point would be if he spearheaded a miracle run to the Elite Eight or Final Four.
Lots of people are saying today that Louisville "needs to be scoreboard watching." I don't buy it, but I can't say that it doesn't make me more nervous than I'd be if those same people were saying that we're a lock.
Peyton Siva was tremendous during his first half stint, totaling four assists in six minutes.
Box score:
S MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 2PA 2PA 2P% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OR DR REB AST STL BLK TO PF
Y. Gates
*
36
16
6
13
46.2
6
13
46.1
0
0
4
4
100.0
1
4
5
1
0
0
1
3
L. Stephenson
*
29
12
4
11
36.4
4
10
40.0
0
1
0.0
4
6
66.7
1
3
4
3
0
0
3
2
D. Vaughn
*
28
10
2
9
22.2
0
4
0.0
2
5
40.0
4
4
100.0
0
4
4
1
2
0
2
2
J. Parker
*
28
8
3
5
60.0
3
4
75.0
0
1
0.0
2
3
66.7
7
2
9
3
2
0
1
2
I. Thomas
*
17
8
4
10
40.0
4
8
50.0
0
2
0.0
0
0
3
5
8
0
1
0
2
4
D. Wilks
24
12
5
11
45.5
3
7
42.8
2
4
50.0
0
1
0.0
5
2
7
1
0
1
0
1
C. Wright
20
3
1
6
16.7
1
4
25.0
0
2
0.0
1
4
25.0
2
3
5
2
0
0
2
3
L. Davis
9
0
0
2
0.0
0
1
0.0
0
1
0.0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
D. Dixon
5
0
0
2
0.0
0
0
0.0
0
2
0.0
0
0
1
2
3
0
0
0
0
1
S. Toyloy
2
0
0
2
0.0
0
2
0.0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
A. McClain
2
0
0
1
0.0
0
1
0.0
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
0
0
0
0
0
CINC
200
69
25
72
34.7
21
54
38.8
4
18
22.2
15
22
68.2
28
26
54
12
5
1
12
18
S
MIN
PTS
FGM
FGA
FG%
2PA
2PA
2P%
3PM
3PA
3P%
FTM
FTA
FT%
OR
DR
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
UL
200
66
24
55
43.6
14
37
37.8
10
18
55.6
8
14
57.1
9
24
33
17
6
3
12
19
P. Knowles
*
35
3
1
12
8.3
0
6
0.0
1
6
16.7
0
0
0
1
1
3
2
0
0
3
E. Sosa
*
32
28
10
16
62.5
5
10
50.0
5
6
83.3
3
8
37.5
1
5
6
3
0
0
2
4
S. Samuels
*
31
13
5
9
55.6
5
9
55.5
0
0
3
4
75.0
2
2
4
0
0
0
4
3
R. Delk
*
30
16
5
5
100.0
1
1
100.0
4
4
100.0
2
2
100.0
0
4
4
3
0
1
1
1
T. Jennings
*
16
4
2
6
33.3
2
6
33.3
0
0
0
0
3
2
5
2
0
2
1
2
J. Swopshire
24
0
0
4
0.0
0
3
0.0
0
1
0.0
0
0
0
5
5
1
1
0
1
3
K. Kuric
15
0
0
1
0.0
0
0
0.0
0
1
0.0
0
0
0
0
0
0
2
0
0
2
R. Buckles
9
2
1
1
100.0
1
1
100.0
0
0
0
0
2
0
2
1
0
0
1
1
P. Siva
8
0
0
1
0.0
0
1
0.0
0
0
0
0
0
1
1
4
1
0
2
0
M. Marra
0
0
0
0
0
0
0.0
0
0
0
0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
0
S
MIN
PTS
FGM
FGA
FG%
2PA
2PA
2P%
3PM
3PA
3P%
FTM
FTA
FT%
OR
DR
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
There was a stretch during Cincinnati's second half run where Lance Stephenson killed us on four or five straight possessions with right-handed drives. Not making him prove that he's capable of doing the same thing with his off-hand is mind-blowing.
The worst part about all of this is that I don't get to enjoy basketball for the next three days (momentum, potential seed and the effect on actual players be damned). No making fun of other teams' awful performances, no getting excited about the next game, no wondering if we might play a certain team in another couple of days. It sucks.
Also, no AnVillen. OK, that's the worst part about all of this.
We've still got Sunday, we just have to wait a lot longer than anyone wanted.
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Mike, I take serious offense here...
I just got done volunteer coaching a 6th grade “C” basketball team a couple weeks ago and your characterization of those fine young men is deplorable. Even they would be apalled to see the Cards’ incredible lack of a sense of urgency with a mere 7-10 point lead.
Among other things Wednesday night, we had no desire whatsover to come up with crucial rebounds when it mattered most and it made me physically ill to watch.
he's already been reprimanded twice for it
It won’t happen again…..until we lose in a similar fashion in the big dance
DocCardsFan
The 'Ville, KY
This team
has collective ADD. Is Adderall a banned performance enhancer? because these guys definitely need it! Starting with Samardo. Last nights game was like one of those horrible running dreams… where you feel like you’re running and running but never seem to get anywhere. The second half was a slow motion train wreck.
Off season assignments should include lots and lots of passing drills. pitching catching and holding on to the damn ball! At least once last night, Samardo let a pass hit him in the face!
I think you're right
about the team not being focused when Jerry doesn’t suit up. He has always been a very good vocal leader. I just don’t think there is anyone else who can step up and take that away from Jerry. We NEED Jerry Smith back!!!
Hate life
I still can’t even talk about how ridiculous it is that Pitino kept Swop in and took Rock out when Rock was the ONLY person rebounding for us. And I’m glad Kuric has more offense now (supposedly), but where the hell did his offensive rebounding ability go??
I’m excited about Siva next year too, but him driving in the lane, getting nudged (at most) and coughing up the ball for a Stephenson dunk basically ended the game for us and gave UC all the momentum.
The only good news is that if UL had played well in the BET, they would have gotten cocky and lost in the first round of the NCAA tournament. But now, we will be the underdogs and have our backs against the wall, which is when we play our best….sometimes
Agreed 1,000x on the Buckles thing
He rebounded, he assisted on a 3, he got a put back. Swop got a few rebounds, but he looked intimidated. Thomas, and Stephenson were in his head. Same with Wilks for some reason.
Mike didn’t mention the 1 play that I thought summarized the game, and also turned it. It would be when Wilks airballed the 3 from the left wing, and Parker manhandled the rebound from Kuric, scored and was fouled. That really swung the game their way. Also Edgar Sosa had a great shooting game, except for the free throws. 3-8 doesn’t cut it. Especially when the one with 1:30 left out of the media break half the people in the game thread knew he would miss.
Pitino said on his post-game show
that Sosa might be happy with his game, but shouldn’t be. I’ll paraphrase, but I think he said something to the effect that “sure, you scored 28 but we lost. Game before, you had 10 assists and we won. He was terrible tonight.” Which might be a little harsh, but for the most part was on the money.
theoldman
Buckles def should've played more
by UL is my hot hot sex on Mar 11, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
He's fearless
and usually was pretty efficient back when I did eff stats.
by REALISTICCARDSFAN on Mar 11, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Can we get a proper recap from the Freedom Hall Finale?
I know it’s late and everyone’s moved on, but that was the highlight of the year by far. I feel like that game deserves more attention (because it will keep me from crying). Perhaps, a proper “Louisville 78, Syracuse 68” recap would make everyone feel better before Sunday? What do ya say, Mike?
"Louisville could be the surprise snub of Selection Sunday" — Andy Glocknar
Good grief. I know most say we’re a lock, but I had being in the position of having to worry about stuff like this.
theoldman
Same here
We should be fine, but I’m pulling like hell for other bubble teams to lose. When he listed our Big East wins, and none besides Syracuse were great, I got nervous. I hope we are in the first bracket, because I don’t want to sit through 20 minutes of hell.
Unfortunately, Mike
There’s only a couple sportsbooks that will allow more than a $3K wager for a 1st/2nd Half bet. But maybe you can purchase your own “Preston and Art Carmody Rule” parking spot at the new arena?
On a related note, with Louisville up 9 at halftime, Cinci was getting 1.5 points for the 2nd Half last night. Thanks, oddsmakers.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Mar 11, 2010 3:56 PM EST reply actions
I'm pretty much done with Sosa
His play last night was the last straw (have given him too many). His winking at the crowd, pulling up ridiculous shots, making bad passing decisions, trying to impress his homies in the crowd, etc. He can stay in New York and continue to play that terrible NYC streetball style and then go home and watch He Got Game over and over every night. At this point we have to live through maybe another game or so with him as “point guard” and then look for the future of the young guys, new recruits, the downtown arena, and the distance hope of that 2011 class.
Maddie in Portland, Oregon
You said it, man
Don’t F—k with da Jesus.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Mar 11, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
no slight intended at all
Can just see how the film (and actual basketball sequences-all basically one-on-one in a playground setting) can be misconstrued by many a young player a la Sosa.
Great film. Especially the Walter McCarty and Denny Crum cameos.
Maddie in Portland, Oregon
by kentuckybred on Mar 11, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Comparison
I’ve never followed a team less capable of handling any type of success.
This year’s football team? Or are you saying a team has to have some type of success in order to then handle it?
by Chris Redman is my hero on Mar 11, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions
Last night completed my journey to ambivalence toward this team.
Obviously, this group just doesn’t have the senior leadership that it needs. I’m sorry that things haven’t worked out better for Edgar, but he needed to grow up at some point. He has had a decent career here, but it could have been so much better.
And re: Samardo — Mike is right that he needs a complete attitude makeover. I wish he spent half the energy trying to get defensive rebounds that he expends swinging on the rim and posturing after a dunk. I would take Ellis Myles over him any day of the week.
by cardsinindy2010 on Mar 11, 2010 5:05 PM EST reply actions
Addendum -- I cannot wait to see Siva run the team next year.
He is lightning quick, his decision-making is (mostly) good, and he is unselfish. I think we will be in much better hands as he grows into the position next year. If Coleman a legit 4.5 star, we should be a better team by the end of next year.
That seems so far away now.
by cardsinindy2010 on Mar 11, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
We're just not a road team this year
I know we beat Cuse at the Carrier Dome, but we just have that team’s number. Pitino knows Boeheim’s system inside and out. We have a great chance at beating them anywhere.
Other than flashes of execution here and there, we have consistently shown we do not know how to play Pitino-ball once we’re outside of Freedom Hall. Cards fall asleep at the wheel and blow games to teams we should be mopping the court with.
I’ll be amazed if we survive the first weekend of the NCAA.
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We stunk up Freedom Hall on occasion
I think it has less to do with where we play than with how we approach the game. If we go in expecting to win – especially if we start out hot – we get cocky. Overconfidence quickly turns to panic when the other team makes a run, and then we fold lik e a cheap suit.
Mercifully, it’s almost over.
"Needs to be scoreboard watching" ...pffff!
If there’s one thing I’ve learned about March Madness, it’s that Digger Phelps and Doug Gottlieb have no freaking clue who is going to be in the tournament.
Also, at some point, I plan to go back and see what UofL’s record is in games where they lead 5-0. The last two (Marquette and Cincy) are losses.
Knowles
I love the guy but funny how everyone rips Edgar and knowles shoots 1-12?? If he doesnt steal the late one he would be worse in my book. He is and should stay a career sixth man.
I think this is the worst team basketball seen in years. When we get down everyone, mainly Edgar or Samardo, tries to get the team back in the game on their own. Jerry by virtue of his inability to shoot this season doesn’t mind passing, which was unseen in the second half.
by bradlm on Mar 11, 2010 7:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't think the Selection Committee will take 9 Big East teams.
With Marquette beating Nova today and ND up on Pitt right now, I’m feeling more and more nervous about Sunday. This really sucks.
by cardsinindy2010 on Mar 11, 2010 7:23 PM EST reply actions
I think it helps that bubblers
like Memphis, UAB, even like Missouri and Wake, and Georgia Tech are losing. I don’t care if we are a reputation bid, I just want in.
Zero killer instinct
I don’t think this team likes to lose, they just don’t HATE losing. There is a difference.
I don’t understand the fascination with Swopshire. When you need a big body to grab rebounds and/or loose balls, where is Jennings?
This game left me not with the type of rage that you are throwing things and cursing non-stop, but the kind where you stay up until 2:30 AM staring at the TV in bottled up anger.
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I think they hate losing, they just don’t know how to win. T Will and to a lesser degree Earl won games for us the past few years. I can’t think of anyone on this team who knows how to win. A perfect example, though i love him and he played awesome when we needed him, is a sophomore bench guy who gets sporadic playing time leading us to victory against Syracuse.
Many of the players don’t have clearly defined roles and those that do either can’t do their jobs or tend to think that they should be doing other things. To me that stems from a lack of leadership. Although the team has struggled all year, the clincher for me was when Samardo went off on Sosa, sorry I forget what game it was, but that told me that for this team to have success it’s going to take a hot streak and not good basketball, because i don’t think we are capable of playing consistently (longer than a half) good basketball.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
Eh....I disagree
If they hated losing, they would do everything possible not to lose. Meaning diving for loose balls and not staring at them while the other team hustles for the rebound and having your seniors make clutch free throws down the stretch. Last night was not the first time this has happened.
Jay Bilas said last night “Louisville is only up 9, but it feels like they should be up 19”. I agree with him. They got caught up in the moment during the first half (Edgar winking at the camera) and didn’t realize they had to do the same thing for another 20 minutes. Or finish the job at West Virginia. Or destroy an inferior team at Seaton Hall.
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There just is no way
Louisville isn’t in the Dance. C’mon. Pretty much everyone agreed they were an 8/9 before the Cincy game. You don’t go from solidly in the middle of the pack to totally out from one close loss in your conf. tourney. We have plenty to worry about with this team. Getting into the Dance ain’t one of them. Seriously.
OK
I can see one not-very-likely scenario where we get left out. If Cincinnati wins the BET we’re screwed. Barring that, no other outcome takes us out of the equation.
Syracuse and Nova both go down in today's early session
and a third double-bye team is trailing with 4 minutes left.
Yeah, it sucks that we lost. But damn, this is one helluva conference. Two potential NCAA Final Four teams don’t make the semifinals of the conference tournament.
And we’ll always have the Syracuse game.
THANK GOD
WVU won! Cincinnati making it to the Finals or even winning it all would possibly keep us out of the Dance. They’ll take 8 BE teams, but not 9. Cincy’s still out, so that’s good for us.
Cincy almost beating WVU makes me want to cry.
How the hell did we not beat Cincy last night? We had a rematch looming with a team that we got completely screwed against the first time around. I effing hate this entire season with the exception of March 6th and a couple of other games.
by cardsinindy2010 on Mar 12, 2010 12:24 AM EST reply actions
I'm going to defend Edgar here
He went 10-16, scored 28 points, had only two TOs, and got 6 boards. Meanwhile, players not named Delk or Sosa went a combined 9-34. That’s 27%. Even if they go a still dismal 14-34, we win that game somewhat comfortably, and Edgar’s stat line is probably 28pts, 6rebs, 5asts, 2TOs. It would be different if the rest of the team shot well, but just didn’t take shots because Edgar wasn’t passing them the ball, but that wasn’t the case. From scoring to rebounding, he was the only one doing anything out there. Outside of a few forced drives, he played extremely well, and his team let him down.
He’s not perfect, and the missed FTs were maddening again, but to act like he’s any higher than about 20th on a list of reasons we lost that game is just wrong. I think even mentioning him negatively in this post is just further proof that most of our fans have the mentality that Edgar has made the wrong decision if what he does doesn’t work out. The guy passed it to a wide open teammate, and halfway decent shooter, for an uncontested 6 footer. He created a great opportunity for a teammate, the very thing everyone and their mother is saying he didn’t do all game. What more is he supposed to do? Sadly, in the minds of many of our fans, what Edgar should have done will always be whatever he didn’t do.
by _TheGainesShow_ on Mar 12, 2010 12:43 AM EST reply actions
This wasn't intended to be directed specifically at Mike
I’m just sick of the way Edgar has been treated this year by our fans, and that comment set me off. The unwarranted praise for Siva and the silly comparisons to Andre are too much for me to handle anymore. ‘Dre was a great player. He knew his role and he played it to perfection. But the guy averaged 19 minutes a game and got less than 2 assists a game. His TORate was lower than Edgar’s is, but barely. His assist rate was well less than half of what Edgar’s is this season. He never got the ball to the wrong person because he wasn’t responsible for getting it to anyone. I guess if you want to give him credit for deferring to Williams as playmaker when Edgar wouldn’t then go for it, but that’s hardly valid grounds to compare them this year. McGee didn’t have to make plays, so he rarely made bad plays. Edgar’s got nobody else on this team. It is, quite literally, all on him. Sure, someone might show up here or there, but day in and day out he’s the only player this team has been able to count on this year. And he’s delivered way more often than not.
Meanwhile, we’ve got people freaking out over Peyton’s four assists. Well, first of all, one of those assists should have never been scored that way. Siva lost the ball on that “assist” to Jennings. Terrence just happened to be there to pick it up before the UC defender got to it. If Edgar did that he’d be getting crucified. And, secondly, his assist to Preston isn’t something anyone should be happy about. He, once again, left his feet with nowhere to go and got bailed out by a good cut. PGs are taught practically at birth not jump in the air, especially on the baseline behind the basket, to try and make a pass. It is an absolute no no, and that shit will get picked off way more often than it’s going to be successful. Peyton does it all the time. Not to mention that he turned it over twice in six minutes, with at least one being the direct result of driving out of control into the lane. Again, if Edgar played as wildly out of control as Peyton, turned the ball over that often, or looked for the highlight reel pass as often as he does, he would get killed by our fans. But when Peyton does it we’re supposed to get excited about the future?
I fully expect to be having this same conversation in four years. Just replace Sosa with Siva, and Siva with whomever is the new hotshot guard we have on the bench. It’s a never ending cycle since Wheat left. Siva>Sosa>McGee>Jenkins>Dean. I mean, even Reece was never embraced as a PG because he wasn’t a “true point guard”. I really can’t handle it anymore.
by _TheGainesShow_ on Mar 12, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Just replace Sosa with Siva, and Siva with whomever is the new hotshot guard we have on the bench. It’s a never ending cycle since Wheat left. Siva>Sosa>McGee>Jenkins>Dean. I mean, even Reece was never embraced as a PG because he wasn’t a "true point guard". I really can’t handle it anymore.
I agree with pretty much everything you said except that out of all those guys, Siva is the only point guard on that list. Now that I think about it he’s probably the only point guard we have had since Rick has been here. Reece, Williams and Garcia were points in the manner that Turner became the point for Ohio State. They were such talented players that it was a waste of their talents to not put the ball in their hands. Dean was a 2 who was forced to play point because we had no one else to do so, and because of that his play and the team suffered. Jenkins was a complimentary player and Sosa is a scorer who is still learning to run an offense.
They gone have to stop sleeping on me one day.. I gotta be one of the best
About 3 hours ago by Eric Wright Cleveland Browns – Cornerback
AGREE IN FULL
Without Edgar we lose by 18-25.
That was long, and I apologize.
Jesus. Now I’m talking to myself on the internet. This is what this team has done to me. Thanks, Cards.
by _TheGainesShow_ on Mar 12, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Should have called out a foul on that last play anyway
which would have sent Sosa to the line and at least made the game interesting. The guys hand was digging into Sosa’s stomach. That’s why he lost the ball the way he did. You know that’s what happen because Cronin said he told them to foul after they got past half court. Oh well.
by REALISTICCARDSFAN on Mar 12, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Clearly a foul attempt.
Thought it was odd that nobody talked about this immediately after the game. Just a sign of how frustrating the loss was.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Mar 12, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
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