Whatever
So.....that sucked. I'm kinda over it though. For a couple reasons:
1) Stepping back, Georgetown has lost 2 straight and they are still a Top 10 team. It's not like we lost to Seton Hall or Charlotte.
2) We missed a lot of short shots in the second half, including a number of challenged shots Samardo could have easily gotten fouls called on. They blow the whistle once or twice there, who knows.
3) Freeman shot out of his mind - 9/12, 5/6 and I think all of those misses were in the first half. Kinda like Scottie Reynolds, I mean, when a good player is making all of his shots, you've got to keep pace.
4) We looked awesome in the first half. So, it's not like we can't put together a solid 20 minutes anymore. Ugh.
5) I doubt many of the 14 or so NBA scouts in attendance were climbing over Sam and his camera to whisper in Samardo's ear. So it seems more likely he'll be taking the opening tip in the new arena. Amazing what a difference a week makes. Last week, Samardo was the Player He Was Promised To Be and Edgar was getting booed in the first half. Tonight, I yelled that Pitino needed to put Sosa back in, and then yelled to get Samardo out of there!
So, now we have to win at Marquette and at UConn, or win at home against a top 10 team that hasn't lost on the road all season and who we have already beat this season.
Whatever.
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I didn't necessarily
think we would win, but I thought we had a good chance too. We played well in first half and defense was actually not bad throughout. But G-town played tough and starting hitting 3s too. Samuels didn’t perform as well as he should obviously, but he was taking shots and they just weren’t falling tonight. Thought we should have held it closer though, but we couldn’t hit a side of a barn there for a while. Delk had a nice first half and really Sosa was the player who showed up and made things happen throughout the game. Disappointed, but not in the dumps about his. G-town was in a funk and this was there game out of it. We need to win one on the road and then beat ‘Cuse at home. Tall order, but I think that’s how it need to happen.
Go Cards.
Maddie in Portland, Oregon
Georgetown's best player(s) stepped up in the 2nd half
Our best players did not.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 24, 2010 2:14 AM EST reply actions
But neither did anyone else
Nothing from jerry or pk or siva. I half want to write this off, and am half worried. I know we have the talent but we don’t put it all together. It makes us frustrating because it’s all there, but we rarely take it
by cardscott5 on Feb 24, 2010 2:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Our best players = box of chocolates
Unfortunately they played like the Russel Stover’s box in the 2nd half after a Godiva 1st half.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 24, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
You are the king of using
=, <, and >. You some kind of math genius or something?
Maddie in Portland, Oregon
by kentuckybred on Feb 24, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Me = Applied Comm genius or something
>75% of my friends in real life are engineers/math geniuses
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 24, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Samuels didn't use enough strength
He is a huge huge man and extremely strong. He didn’t put enough strength into defense or his shots, most of which just clanked off the front of the rim. All this means is that the next game he is going to step it up and have another big game……hopefully.
"John Wall Sucks!" Terrence Williams
He looked timid like he did against Cousins.
But I like the fact about him returning because the NBA scouts doubtfully are sold on him.
by CtotheAtotheRtotheDtotheS on Feb 24, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Play TJ
Once again, Jennings has a decent first half but doesn’t get much of a chance in the second.
Jennings was getting beat off the dribble as well though.
Especially letting someone go baseline and pull a reverse. I know coaches hate it when players leave the baseline drive open without cutting it off, so that may have been RPs reason.
It’s strange though. It seems like with every other player, RP is quick to take them out if they make a defensive mistake (6/7 subs in a 2 minute span). Yet with Samardo, he gets beat often and stays in. Not very consistent.
by CtotheAtotheRtotheDtotheS on Feb 24, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I hate it when
our offense devolves into “dump it in to samardo and pray he makes it.”
It’s like a football coach who runs the ball 45 times a game. You gotta throw the ball ocassionally to keep them honest.
Pitino, needs to develop some offense to get someone else a shot. It’s like if the alley-oop/backdoor from the top of the key isn’t there, the offense reverts back to a weave until you can pass it into samardo.
When Samardo is on, like against ND thats fine, but against a bigger, quicker, better front line like GTown we’re in big trouble. Everyone else just stands around when he has the ball and we end up getting very stagnant
Half court offense
That’s been the problem since Pitino’s been here. If the press isn’t working or we’re not hitting threes, we have very little half court offense we can rely on. I don’t see why any team would play anything other than man-to-man against a Pitino-coached team. Our half-court offense this year has been either to dump it into Samardo or run a high screen and roll. That’s pretty much it.
Sosa was forcing a lot of inside shots that he didn't need to be, but
that was only because no one else could get anything going against Gtown. IMO this was one of his best games.
Buckles had some inspired minutes as well.
I know this team is a “box of chocolates”, but Pitino never even gave some guys a chance. I know we need Jerry for his defense, but the press only created maybe one turnover and it sure as hell didn’t tire out their guards or speed up the game with the press, so why not put in somebody who is going to shoot the ball? Jerry threw in a prayer for a three near the end and had one sweet drive for an and 1, but other than that, I can’t remember any good shots (there was an airball in there too). Marra does a good job of creating outside shots, yet saw no minutes.
And also i’m not sure why we went with the man-to-man. Freeman was getting wide open looks all night.
So in other words, Georgetown is as good as advertised.
DocCardsFan
The 'Ville, KY
Agreed
In most of the games we win we hold them to around 60 points. Last night, that would have bought us into overtime. However, GT tacked on an extra 10 points we don’t usually let teams get with some tricky fucking offense plays in the paint that left us holding our nuts while Freeman knocked down 3s. It’s hard to defend against a dynamic offense like that. GT is good. If our offense had played a little bit better we might have been able to keep up, but some night the shots just won’t fall.
by REALISTICCARDSFAN on Feb 24, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Georgetown was due for a good night and had one, and they are a very good team.
They are patient offensively, and they execute. And they have plenty of talent; Monroe is so skilled and athletic. I was impressed with the way they dissected our defense with good passing. And defensively, they made it very difficult for anyone to get an open look in the second half.
All that said, if we had played two good halves, we probably would have won. We could still get 2 of the next 3; hell, we could get all 3. But the pressure is back on now.
by cardsinindy2010 on Feb 24, 2010 10:48 AM EST reply actions
Monroe had 16, 14, and 5 (assists)
Pitino should show that to Samuels and let him know that’s why Monroe will be going pro this year, and that’s why Samuels is likely a 4 yr player.
And for as much hype as our bench got before the game, we were outscored 12-4, although our bench played 53 minutes to their 33.
Freeman's first 6 points in 2nd Half
TJ never rotated on Defense and allowed Freeman to get good looks to start the Hoyas’ opening 2nd half run. To regurgitate a tired story, this is why TJ doesn’t play in tandem with Samardo, he’s a great defender at the 5 and a liability at the 4.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 24, 2010 11:08 AM EST reply actions
This team is such an emotionally challenged bunch.
They can’t handle prosperity or adversity. I feel like I’m watching really tall, athletic 12-year olds. They take a ride on the Happy-Sad-Happy-Sad-Happy-Sad roller coaster, all in the span of 1 minute of play. IMHO this is sign of a deficiency in Senior leadership. I said it at that start of the season and still believe we don’t have emotionally mature Seniors. This just makes the immature Freshmen and Sophomores that much more erratic. No one is there to calm them down. No one is there to show them how it’s done. Hard to watch, and even harder to coach.
Kinda harsh assessment
after losing to a team like GT who was playing lights out last night. I didn’t notice a lot of emotional problems last night. Maybe Sam Sam being a bit sluggish, but that’s about it.
by REALISTICCARDSFAN on Feb 24, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
You're right it is a little harsh...
…but I stand by my assessment. The college game has become a lot more tense in the last 20-25 years. More teams, better players, higher paid coaches, etc. A player needs grow up fast and learn to deal with the ups and downs. This is where Senior leadership has to step up. I haven’t seen it this year.
Senior leadership is not a single game statistic...
…it is a mind set. David Padgett had it, T-Will had it, Rodney McCray, Dejuan Wheat, and Darrell Griffith had it, Edgar does not. No offense to Edgar, or Jerry Smith, but they are not leaders.
Thoughts
Started posting something last night but was so upset that I just deleted everything. Felt slightly better, though, after venting to my monitor.
Jennings should have either replaced or at least played with Samardo after ‘Mardo missed that string of consecutive shots. Heard TJ injured his ankle in the first half, which is probably why he didn’t get the playing time he deserved.
When we are shooting that bad and it’s obvious our defense isn’t working, why not at least try Mike Marra. I’m probably more upset about him not being played than any of my other points of contention.
So… our press was not very good.
Call me a heathen, but Preston did not play well last night. He made some bad decisions with the ball and became an offensive liability. But hey, even God took a day off…
Sosa probably played his best consecutive 10 minutes of his career to start the game. After that, he didn’t play any worse than the rest of his teammates. I think he deserves a lot of credit.
Who would have thouht a year ago that Jerry would become (one of) the best on-ball defender(s) on the team? He still gets beat off the dribble way too often, but at least he hustles to get back into position. As my roommate pointed out, he isn’t shooting well, so he might as well be good at something.
Speaking of defense, Siva just doesn’t seem to be the frantic and harassing defender he was at the start of the season. My hopes of seeing a Siva/Preston! defensive combo rivaling McGee/Preston! is fading fast.
Samardo needs to learn to plant his foot and spin inside toward the basket. I counted at least 3 possessions where Monroe was guarding the outside spin and Samardo spun right into him (hence his poor shooting).
Thought our freethrow shooting was still much improved over what we saw earlier in the season.
spot on about Preston last night and Jerry lately.
Siva, IMO, isn’t taking as many chances as did early on, which is a good thing. My buddy doesn’t understand why we don’t play much man-to-man, and I told him that’s by design. When you play M2M defense, you need to learn much more about your opponent’s offensive scheme. When you play zone, you force the other team to develop an offensive gameplan to attack the zone – i.e. force them to try something new. But for our zone to be effective, you can’t keep getting beat off the dribble, because when the next man steps up, you better be damn good at rotating or there will be easy buckets. Last year we were tremendous at rotating, and if not, we had the length of E5 and T-will to bail us out and get into the passing lanes.
I told my buddy last night that we really need an explosive 3 player. Normally this year we hold our own at the 1 and 5 spot. We definitely get beat at the 4, and most nights at the 2. But the 3 spot is big for us. We either need a big defensive stopper, or a huge scorer. We don’t really have one or the other. We got killed at the 3 spot last night (Delk, while a good shooting game, didn’t have the game that Freeman did).
Hopefully Coleman can come in and be the scoring 3 that we needed this year. I expect us to continue to hold our own at the 1 and 5 spot, and I’ll generally concede the 2 (I love Preston, but I don’t see him stepping up and averaging 14pts/game). What we need however is for Swop and Rock to continue to develop an offense for the 4.
I think part of the siva defense
Is that he started getting called for every bump once comference play started. If you are a foul magnet, I think that would temper aggression.
I’m willing to write this one off as Georgetown playing like an elite team for a half. Hopefully we put another beating on Connecticut
by cardscott5 on Feb 24, 2010 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
agreed on preston, awful entry passes, never seen him play that poorly
also think it doesn’t help siva when he doesn’t come in til the 4-minute mark, at which point he’s ice cold. i know sosa is playing well and wants to put the team on his back, but siva needs to get in some kind of rhythm, as far as minutes are concerned, to be effective.
by doctorofdunk on Feb 24, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Why is it
one player from the opposing team ALWAYS has a career game against us? I guess I’ll take it as flattery, since playing the Ville is always a big deal to the other team.
Go Cards!
you know who didn't have a career game?
Chris Wright. And then I was going to try to draw a don’t count your chickens before they’ve hatched, tweeting, twitter comparison joke there.
It's true...
…been happening since the early 80s. I can’t count the number of players who either had a career or season high against us. Many times I have witnessed some player doing something they never did before, like a center hitting 4 3s in a row, or a guard getting a double double in rebounds and assists, or a player making 16-16 free throws. Seems liek we do bring out the A game in our opponents.
I take full responsibility
During the first half of the game I had on my Sam Sam Jersey, but during halftime I took it off. I tried to put it back on but the magic was lost. I take full responsibility for the loss and vow to never listen to my gf when she says how much she hates it. Sorry guys and gals
by bjack357 on Feb 24, 2010 2:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
you better
sleep with you eyes open
by itsALLintheCARDS on Feb 24, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Offensive Plays
I’ve seen a play used a number of times by other teams but I don’t know if it is generally planned. It seems like it would be easy to set up and likely often result in either a foul, a shooting foul, or a 3. It also seems like it would work particularly well with our boys. Here’s the play:
A guard set up screen for the defender on the PG, PG takes a step behind the screen, losing the defender to the screen and then PG fires a 3 off over top the screen (who is ducking and staying out of the way).
This will work well for our boys (with practice) because we have a number of shorter guards (Siva is 6’0) to act as screens that should be easy to shoot over and we have a number of perimeter shooters.
I would also like to see Jenning or Sam nail a 3 as they are consistently left wide open on the perimeter (for good reason). I’m guessing they’re not capable, but I can dream.
by REALISTICCARDSFAN on Feb 24, 2010 3:20 PM EST reply actions
Haven't we had enough big guys in the pitino era shoot 3s when they have no business shooting them?
I just wish we wouldn’t become so one-dimensional, as other have alluded to, when we get it down to Samardo. If he could pass out of the double teams in the paint, we’d have a lot of open looks, and maybe we could’ve started our rally earlier last night.
by doctorofdunk on Feb 24, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I know you were kidding
but nobody should kid with these clowns. TJ absolutely thinks he can make threes. NO THREES, TJ.
by doctorofdunk on Feb 24, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
In the aftermath of last night's game, we're in a terrible position.
The Georgetown at home game was one we really had to have. Win that, and perhaps you steal one at Marquette or UCONN. Now we’re faced with winning two of three and the odds would say we’re screwed. UCONN is playing the best they’ve played all season, and Marquette has been almost as good recently. A betting man would not put a lot of money on our chances.
theoldman
When did UConn become '72 UCLA?
They’re playing well, sure, but Jesus people, we can beat them. Mike had said we’d always struggled at UConn, here are our games against them, on the road, since we joined the Big East:
2006: L, 84-80
2007: W, 76-67
2008: L, 69-67
So yes, we’re 1-2, but those losses were by a total of six points, to what I think we can all agree were more talented Husky teams. If we hit some open 3s and get Samardo to a.) make those bunnies and b.) pass out of the double teams for open 3s, we can absolutely win this game. Have a little faith.
by doctorofdunk on Feb 24, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
Although @ UConn looked like the most formidable game of the final four to me on paper, I also think it is very winnable. I just hope it’s not one of those “BE home team shoots a gazillion free throws” games; we definitely didn’t get that sort of zebra love in the Georgetown game.
by cardsinindy2010 on Feb 24, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
On the bright side.
Someone I think mentioned this somewhere, but Delk has to be one of the best fast break defenders in the BE. How many times has be blocked or stripped what would have otherwise been an easy layup?
And not on the bright side: If I was an opposing team game planning for us, I would make sure that my players know to collapse whenever Samuels gets the ball. At least always double him and lots of tripling, as looking from film it must be obvious that he NEVER passes back out, regardless of whether or not he makes a lot of his shots.
Something that made me feel better about last night - watching the last 5 minutes and overtime of the '05 WVU game.
It is hard to imagine being amazed by something when you already know the outcome, but with all the Pittsnoggle daggers in the closing minutes of regulations (including the real kicker at under 2 minutes when we had closed to within one point), it just seemed like there was no way we could pull that one out. Just amazing.
Another thing that struck me about the ’05 team was the crisp ball movement — the ball hardly ever touched the floor, and when dribbling occurred, it was with purpose. I cannot imagine loving a Louisville team more than I did that group — they did not overwhelm you with talent, but their execution, intelligence, and poise were overwhelming.
by cardsinindy2010 on Feb 24, 2010 5:14 PM EST reply actions
I was watching the UNC game from 08...
and was somehow nervous watching it. Also, Jerry Smith was 7 of 10 in that game—man.
Agreed on the 05 team, with all due respect to T-Will, it is ridiculous that he got an “All Freedom Hall” team nod over Cisco. Cisco was the most important player to our program in the 00s.
It’s so fun to watch random games on that thing—was watching Jameer Nelson vs. Chris Paul from 2004, great battle, loved that St. Joe’s team as much as any non-Cards team in the 00s.
by doctorofdunk on Feb 24, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Not totally sure that this is exactly right, but as I recall from the game...
1st team
Griffith
Unseld
Tyra
Ellison
McCray
2nd team
Wagner
Wheat
Bridgeman
T-Will
D. Smith
Does that sound right to anyone who was there?
by doctorofdunk on Feb 24, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
That is correct.
Btw, did anyone else notice they used the same Dean’s Milk Jr. Announcer that we had for the Nova game where we looked good in the first half only to lose it. Although cute, we should not have him do that again.
GD Jr. Announcer
I’ve got a joke for you, kid…
by Mike Rutherford on Feb 25, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Cisco > T-Will
I can’t comment on anyone else besides Wheat, not old enough.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 24, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
If true, that would be unfortunate
Dude had legit selfless reasons (brother was killed, family living in bad area, etc…) to enter the NBA early and was backed by Pitino.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 24, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I don't mean that the school penalized him
but him going pro kept him from being a legend. T-Will stayed all 4 years and became a gigantic fan favorite.
I assume that's Rodney McCray
although Scooter was an incredible passer before he went down to injury.
Scooter = friend of the extended hot hot family
I overheard someone saying (while pointing at Scooter) “hey isn’t that Rodney McCray’s brother?” within earshot of him…once he stopped staring we changed pants laughed.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Feb 25, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
consistency
We have to realize that this team has a lot of weaknesses. One near the top of the list is there is not a single player who we can depend on to exhibit consistency. Whether it is a starter or a sub not one of them can put together three good back to back games much less be a steady go to guy on either offence or defense. No clue what the reason(s) is but that is they way it is and why our season resembles a high speed elevator.

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