Three for your Wednesday morning
1. It has been confirmed that Shabaka Lands, the former high school assistant coach of top U of L recruit Marquis Teague, has been hired by Louisville under the title of "Special Assistant to the Coach."
There's nothing illegal about this, and strategically speaking it's probably a great move for a program that desperately needs a positive story and a big-time commitment, but that doesn't mean it isn't shady and kind of gross.
It's impossible to ignore that this stuff goes on just about everywhere, but it's the reason why I don't think I could ever be too cose to the game - regardless of how much it means to me - in any capacity. Just don't have the stomach for it. I'm too sweet for Rock and Roll.
If anyone else has a pertinent Almost Famous quote handy then by all means throw it out there. Apparently it's all we're doing here this week.
2. Eric Crawford lays out both his readers' and his own list of what it's going to take to satisfy the Cardinal fan base in year three of the Steve Kragthorpe era.
It's a fair, if not comprehensive, list, but I can't say I'm with Eric on his first requirement: "At least five wins, with no embarrassing losses."
Five wins shouldn't be enough to prolong the tenure of a head coach who hasn't tasted the postseason at a program which hadn't missed it in the nine years prior to his arrival. There's no telling what Tom Jurich's list looks like, or even if he has a list, but it should be bowl or bust for Kragthorpe in '09.
3. A very interesting story out of Fayetteville, where it appears the Brohm family was instrumental in convincing former Michigan quarterback Ryan Mallett to come to Arkansas and play for Bobby Petrino.
One name that kept coming up during her son's visit to Arkansas' campus was Brian Brohm, the former Louisville quarterback whom Petrino groomed. Mallett's mother jumped at a chance to find out more about Petrino.
"Debbie said, 'Well, can I talk to Brian Brohm's parents about his situation playing for you?'" Mallett's father said. "And coach Petrino was the one that gave us the phone number."
Debbie Mallett called Brohm's parents and the praise they had for Petrino sold her on the idea of her son playing for the Razorbacks. And it didn't take long for her son to decide that he wanted to come back to his home state and play for the school he had rooted for as a kid.
And speaking of Brohm (it should be three and-a-half for your Wednesday morning) it appears the biggest opportunity of his short NFL career may very well come tomorrow evening in the Packers' final preseason game.
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My criteria would be
7 or more wins…..anything else is a lateral move for the program. Not sure what to think of the Brohm’s influence on the quarterback to Arkansas. Sounds like they aren’t too happy with their treatment from Krag, and I don’t blame them. However, no loyalty to the school? Kinda mixed on this.
Go Cards!
by Red Rage on Sep 2, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont think it has anything to do with loyalty to the school (although the school hasnt exactly been loyal to them in the Krag era). I think it has more do with with the Mallett family wondering whether Petrino was a good coahc for their son to play for. Had UL been an option for Ryan Mallett, maybe then you could call in his loyalty to the school, but there was never a chance of him landing here.
by Ben Go CARDS on Sep 2, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crawford's article
Was very weird this morning. Seriously, 5 wins and no bowl is enough?
I agree with you – Bowl or 2-3 wins. And even 6-6 and a bowl is not exactly something to aspire to. Everyone keeps forgetting – he is rebuilding what he has destroyed.
by CardsFan922 on Sep 2, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Pitino hire brings us closer to creepy, sleazy land.
It sounds like something Calipari would do and I know everybody does it but damn, can’t we have a program that’s above doing what everybody else does? Last year during the season I said “you know, the great thing about our coach is that he never does anything or says anything that would embarrass the university or the program.”
Boy was I wrong.
theoldman
by theoldman on Sep 2, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm really not liking Pitino's performance here lately.
Maybe Jurich needs to start making some calls and telling RP to “start planning his retirement” in a few years.
by CARD_G6 on Sep 2, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're not being sarcastic
then this has to be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read. You want to bash him for the off the court issues, that is understandable. But for the recruiting effort he is making amongst all this? Simply idiotic. Unbelievable what people say around here.
We lose Fab Melo to the Cuse, and are not at the top of the list for any big time players (yet) in 2010, and people are yelling the sky is falling and saying pitino has lost it. Now he makes a big time strategic move to secure what may end up being the best PG to play at UofL if he commits, and he needs to retire. So if we get Teague, Pitino is a sleaze, and if we don’t, then he is no longer any good at what he does. Do I have that right?
by npb1985 on Sep 2, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying the guy's lost it.
I still have every faith in his coaching abilities, and would love for him to stick around. I still think he’s one of the best coaches in the country.
I also happen to think that there are some things (like integrity) that are more important than wins at some point.
by CARD_G6 on Sep 2, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Denny did it
with Darrell Griffith. Better make a post bashing him. Tennesee did it to get Allan Houston. Coaches do it all the time. It’s the same as any type of sale. If you are trying to get someone to buy your product, but they are on the fence or considering a competitior’s offer, sometimes you have to sweeten the deal. As long as it’s legal, that’s fine with me. Although it may be considered bending the rules, it certainly doesn’t break them. Did you know that tax evasion is illegal, but tax avoidance is not? I’m guessing you call all the people using tax avoidance methods to save money bad americans and embarassments to this country, right? Some of the “fans” we have are unreal.
It’s how recruiting works. There is no pleasing some of you crybabies out there. Pitino makes a smart move to help land a guard we really need, and does it within the rules, shady or not. I think some of these posters just assume Pitino can do nothing right anymore. Unbelievable. If Marquis commits, I am assuming you will not cheer for Louisville anymore.
So sorry if UofL basketball “embarasses” you by staying on top of recruiting at a time when it is most needed. If you didn’t know all big time programs did this, you are either a complete idiot, completely naive, or both. You don’t want to follow a program who recruits the best players and puts a great team on the floor year after year for our enjoyment and benefit? Go cheer for Murray State.
by npb1985 on Sep 2, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This post (and below it) was meant to be a reply
to both you and CARD_G6, actually.
by npb1985 on Sep 2, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a matter of fact, I do have a problem with people that use tax avoidance methods.
Why should I get penalized by paying more tax money for being responsible?
by CARD_G6 on Sep 3, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing
If Pitino had offered a scholly to….say…..an low rated three stars whose only offers were from MAC type schools (and not really a big east caliber player), but was best friends with Marquis Teague, would you be bashing Pitino then? This is essentially the same thing as a package deal. Some people just live to complain. I don’t even want to imagine how you treat waiters at restaurants.
by npb1985 on Sep 2, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
football?
When you said “low rated three stars whose only offers were from MAC type schools (and not really a big east caliber player)” I had to refocus. I was so sure you were talking about Kragthorpe’s recruits. Oh wait, many of them are two star.
by cbcard on Sep 2, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tip very well, thank you very much.
20-50%. You don’t know me, so don’t pretend to try, and don’t try to make me feel bad for having standards. It won’t work, jackass.
by CARD_G6 on Sep 3, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tip waiters
by stepping on their feet and pushing them over.
They lose their balance every time
ThreadKiller
by mclade01 on Sep 3, 2009 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe thats....
exactly Pitino’s thinking…if he hires him, then that means Calipari cant
by whitacreky on Sep 2, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh...and
is anyone else having trouble with the link for Brohm;s “biggest opportunity” ?
by whitacreky on Sep 2, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three items
1) I’m surprised at this headline, but I think we’re going to see a new and aggressive Coach Rick Pitino. He won’t cheat, I know that about him, but he will do everything in his power to win another ring, which is his absolution with the Cardinal faithful and his own legacy in the sport.
2) Eric is wrong. Mike called it…bowl or bust. How could you see it any other way?
3) If Mallett’s presence at Hogville is due, at least in part, because of influence from the Brohms, that’s not surprising. Coach Bobby Petrino is one of the best coaches in college football, and if he was better at the business side of his affairs, he’d be at Michigan, Notre Dame, some SEC school or whomever else that is considered ‘football royalty’. It is not, however, Tom Jurich’s fault that Bobby wasn’t content/happy here at Louisville.
by BR7 on Sep 2, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
'He is no longer any good at what he does. Do I have that right?'
No, you don’t.
He’s not a sleaze for recruiting a player — but it seems pretty sleazy to create a job for that player’s coach. Does anyone remember what was said when Memphis hired Milt Wagner? Creating a strawman argument doesn’t make your point.
theoldman
by theoldman on Sep 2, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, Dajuan Wagner was the first thing I thought of when I read this…I remember how pissed I was at the time that Calipari had hired his dad. Never like feeling that our program is pulling a page out of the coach cal playbook…
by nyc27 on Sep 2, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is exactly my point.
It’s not OK when Calipari does it, but it is when Pitino does it? What are we here, UK fans?
I’m not. I have standards that I like to think apply to everyone. I don’t try to sit on my delusional high horse and think that everything my university (and it’s employees) do is justified. You combine things like this with the Karen Sypher incident, and RP is starting to really tarnish this university’s reputation in the long run. He hasn’t done it yet, and I don’t know that he will, but I’m not liking the direction he’s been heading the past few months here. I’m not saying he should be fired, nor am I trying to bash him; what he’s done for this program has been outstanding. All I’m saying is that if he continues down this path of shady doings (both on and off the court), he could hurt the university, and maybe Jurich needs to give him a couple more years before politely asking Pitino to take an early retirement. You’ve got to nip it in the bud if you want to save the university’s reputation.
by CARD_G6 on Sep 2, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like this hire by Pitino...doeswn't feel right
remind me —who did Denny hire for Griff? i’m clueless on that comment
by frankpos on Sep 2, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wade Houston.......
…….who was his coach at Male. And turned out to be a great recruiter. When Bill Olsen became AD and Wade left for UT that was the end of Denny because he never could replace either of them as recruiters much less both of them.
by cbcard on Sep 2, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the guy's referring to Bobby Turner,
theoldman
by theoldman on Sep 2, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute
That posted before I was ready. What I was trying to say was maybe the guy was referring to Turner, who was a recruiting catch in his own right. Or perhaps to Wade Houston, but to be honest I don’t remember if Houston came to U of L with that pair. Whatever, the point he’s trying to make, I guess, is everybody does it so it’s okay.
But it’s not.
theoldman
by theoldman on Sep 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm on drugs!
www.theovertimeshow.blogspot.com
by adam10001 on Sep 2, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Pitino was
tired of bringing a knife to a gunfight.
Think about it, it’s the Chicago Way
ThreadKiller
by mclade01 on Sep 2, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Geographically challenged.
Cal is from Pittsburgh.
by cbcard on Sep 2, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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