Louisville is a stepping stone job
The search for the next Louisville football coach is in full swing and the pros and cons of seemingly every man who has ever picked up a clipboard are being weighed by the fan base as I type this. One thing I keep hearing and have to address here is that Tom Jurich needs to avoid hiring someone who is going to treat being the front man for Cardinal football as a "stepping stone" job.
Here's the thing: the head football coach position at the University of Louisville is absolutely a stepping stone job.
Here's another thing: 95% of the head coaching positions in college football are stepping stone jobs.
Let's look at the very definition of a "stepping stone"; it's a momentary resting place a person uses to gather his or her self before making another move that will hopefully bring them that much closer to their desired destination.
Now it may come to be that over time a person realizes that the stone where they currently reside is actually more comfortable and suitable to their needs than the haven they'd initially set out for, or a person may stay on a stone for such a long time that they become too old to make the leap anywhere else, but this doesn't change the fact that it was never their intention to end up where they did.
If asked at the beginning of their career, every single man or woman with the desire to coach college football at the Division I level could tell you the one head coaching job they desire above all others. For many, that job is in South Bend. Love or hate the Irish, the head gig at Notre Dame is the most high-profile coaching job there is in football, at any level There's a reason there have been rumors surrounding the possibility of Bob Stoops and Urban Meyer leaving powerhouses Oklahoma and Florida, respectively, to take another job, and there's a reason those rumors weren't automatically rejected as ridiculous.
Of course there are certainly other individuals whose final landing pad lies outside the state of Indiana, but the list of dream jobs is short. Michigan, Ohio State, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Penn State and Nebraska are all places where a person with a particular affinity for the program or an elevated appreciation for the history of college football could coach forever and be happy. But still, lately we've seen the eyes of coaches at even these programs of the highest stature wandering when an equally attractive cousin shot them a glance (hi Les, hi Nick).
The point I'm trying to make is that Louisville is one of the vast, vast majority of college football programs that can't afford to waste time looking for the guy who says he wants to be here forever and is willing to take a polygraph test to prove it. This sport, even more so than its basketball counterpart, is one driven by money and power (see: postseason) and every member of its coaching family is fully aware of that.
If you're not Notre Dame, if you're not Michigan, if you're not Ohio State, your coach is using you with the hope that one day he'll have one of those jobs or be that much closer to having one of those jobs. If he says otherwise, he's lying. Accept it now and the betrayal will be that much easier to stomach.
It's time to shelve the illusions of bringing in some young offensive genius who's going to dress himself, his kids and his pretty wife in Cardinal red every day for the rest of his life, walk in the Derby Parade every year and show up at every home game to a standing ovation when he's 85 and retired with a pair of national titles under his belt. This isn't basketball and it isn't 1960.
We all know how much the Petrino ordeal hurt, but the best thing the powers that be at Louisville can do right now is hire the man whom they believe is best suited to win football games right away and get this program back where it was three years ago. And if in four or five years that man has won so much here that he decides he'd love the opportunity to try and win somewhere where he's going to get a little bit more attention and a little bit more money, then you do the exact same thing all over again.
It's not what anyone wants to believe, it's just the way it is.
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This might be the best thing you've written for the site
And I have a lot of respect for most of the content you put on this site duder. Well done.
Who says we want a guy that wants to stay here?
Look at how well that turned out with the coach of whom I no longer speak.
I don't understand why coaches are looked at differently than the rest of us
Who here doesn’t want a better job? If you do, you’re fortunate, and probably in the latter stages of your career. Everyone would take a better job, bigger paycheck, even if they really like what they’re doing currently. I think I’m the only card fan who doesn’t hate Bobby Petrino. Yeah he lied, but he had to. Fans make it so a coach has to lie in order to keep his position in the community.
Never hated Bobby
Like you mentioned, it’s gotten to the point where a coach virtually has no other option than to lie. The sooner we detach emotion from the situation and realize this ain’t 1960 and this ain’t south bend, the better. It’s bigger than loyalty with coaches, there are families, ambitions and personal reasons in play that drive our own lives and careers.
A coach will feed the mob because it’s the only way to survive. It’s a game that most of us will never have to play in our chosen careers.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Couldn’t agree with you more. I am still puzzled how some fans are still so bitter that Petrino left for a better job. It should have been obvious from the first year that Petrino’s career ambition was not to be at Louisville for the rest of his career regardless of what he stated at press conferences. Everyone wanted Petrino to be the next Denny Crum. Come to Louisville, fall in love with the city & university, stay for your career, win a few national championships. Petrino worked his butt off while he was here and we enjoyed the success that went with his efforts. I would be fine with another ambitious coach who can do like Petrino did and if he leaves in 4-5 years it will be because he was a great success which we will have benefited. There is always the chance that the coach will fall in love with Louisville, but don’t expect it or require it. Just let him do his job.
I don't think its that Petrino left.
But how he left that makes people dislike him. Hell I dislike him more for what he did to the players in Atlanta than anything.
-Dustin
The fans in Atlanta, especially the players, have every reason to hate the coward.
But I don’t see what that has to do with Louisville. What about how he left makes you dislike him? I don’t understand how him shopping around and lying about it makes him any different than 98% of college coaches.
Well the falcons deal is my main reason.
How he left Atlanta was a VERY childish and cowardly way to leave a job/team.
I don’t like how he left Louisville either. It’s one thing for a coach to stretch the truth “I plan on being at Louisville for…” compared to blatantly lieing “I want to be at Louisville for….”. Petrino was always saying he WANTED to be with us, but behind everyone’s back he was interviewing for jobs.
The way he left the Falcons just cemented that fact of what I thought his character was, but that he IS a coward.
If he didn’t leave the Falcons the way he did, I would probably agree 100% with you and face the fact that he was just shopping around.
-Dustin
Thank you Captain Bringdown
But I agree 100%.
I’ll take 100 years of the Bobby Petrino’s of the world for 3-4 years if that means we don’t have a Krags who wants to stay forever and destroy our program.
Something to be said for sticking with a program
I absolutely agree that we are a stepping stone program…history easily shows that. But you have to believe that it must cross a coaches mind that he could build a dynasty in his name at a particular program. Imagine if Kelly stayed at Cincinnati for the rest of his career no doubt he would be labeled as the Legend of their program in the long run, one would think he could someday make it to the big game and possibly win. He would most likely have statues of him and buildings named after him some day on campus….Who wouldnt want that.
Of course he could also turn out to be like Greg Schiano, who probably should have taken the next step when he was riding high
Risk/Reward
Most of the time a coach should take the money and set up his family for generations to come. Very risky strategy to think one could maintain success in this sport at one school for longer than 10 yrs and become a legend.
Gary Patterson comes to mind; just signed an extension through 2016 at TCU last night. But he’s a rare breed at a non-BCS school; he likes the BCS despite the fact the system is designed so that programs like his will never have a fair shot at a national championship. Most coaches who work as hard as he does to maintain success at a place like TCU wouldn’t accept that plight.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 12:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
college jobs are not higher profile than pro jobs
" Love or hate the Irish, the head gig at Notre Dame is the most high-profile coaching job there is in football, at any level"
any level of college football.
Because of the money
The NFL is more popular than college football and its coaches are better paid, but no one position receives as much national attention as the head coach at Notre Dame. Bill Belichick might be the biggest name in football coaching, but head coach of the New England Patriots is a title that’s nowhere near as heralded as head coach of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish.
by Mike Rutherford on Dec 2, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I should hit refresh more often
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 1:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
just as a footnote: i think it’s worth adding that head coach of ND is a title that is fading from glory fast.
No kidding
Notre Dame is not a dream job at all unless they were brought up worshiping Notre Dame. They cannot compete at a national level anymore because of their out of touch academic requirements and crappy location.
Are you going to tell a 5 star prospect that he has to come to South Bend, IN and study his butt off to play football when he could just as easily go to USC for an easy ride in beautiful sunny California around the hottest Co-eds in the country. No contest. The recruit picks USC nine times out of ten.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
Different recruits have different interests
Religion, proximity to home, coaching staff, playing time, coaching strategy…all of these are typically higher on a 5-star recruit’s preference list than weather and girls. Most know at that point the NFL is taking notice and what better place to get noticed than at Notre Dame.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The only thing Notre Dame has going for it
these days is it’s TV contract. That doesn’t even do much for them anymore as most major schools are shown on television every Saturday these days. Who was the last high profile Notre Dame player to succeed in the NFL. Brady Quinn? No. Ryan Grant? Maybe. Maurice Stovall? No.
Weis’ expertise and offensive proficiency failed to make them elite again. It is a no win situation for a coach to go there. They can meet the lofty expectations with what they are given to work with.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
**They cannot meet the lofty expectations**
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
Your opinion, line of thought is sound
The TV contract is huge and legitimizes many of the other factors mentioned in this thread that point to why Notre Dame will always be a high profile destination.
It’s my belief that when Notre Dame gets a new coach, the hype that surrounds Notre Dame will re-surface as strong it always has and recruits will buy into it. I don’t think weather and girls will be major factors if USC and Notre Dame are the top 2 choices and I respectfully disagree that 9 out of 10 times, the recruit would select USC. The laundry list of great NFL players who’ve attended Notre Dame still speaks loudly, recent successes or not. (I would also contend that the academic standards thing is overplayed but that’s a different argument.)
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
The TV money is also why Notre Dame
can afford to pay so much for their coaches. If they make one BCS appearance they will pay for their entire contract, since Notre Dame doesn’t have to share the money with an entire conference.
Personally I would like to see ND join the Big East. It would put us right up there with the Big Ten and Big 12, although we would still be the SEC’s little brother.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
It would be nice.
But don’t hold your breath. Notre Dame has a contract with NBC for several more years, and by that time they could easily be back on top and in a prime position to do whatever they want. They would probably pack up their basketball team and move to another conference that wouldn’t touch football before they join the Big East. Part of the Notre Dame mystique is being able to play the other top teams that year freely, something a set Big East schedule would really hinder.
by CARD_G6 on Dec 2, 2009 5:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Weather and girls would not be the sole determining factor
but USC’s pipeline to the NFL would most likely be the biggest factor.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
can't argue with that
but USC looks prime for a downturn while Notre Dame is due for an upswing
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
CNN Ticker Rule
When Weis got fired it made the main ticker on CNN and on it’s top 5 links on CNN.com.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
when belichick was caught filming other teams signals, it was talked about for months on every news channel.
Subjective
Belichick is the high profile person he is because he is a successful coach not because he was hired by the Patriots. New England’s head coach prestige, in and of itself, had nothing to do with that particular story catching legs. Success in the NFL is cyclical like college but coaches create their own profile and they don’t attract better players or press because of the tradition of their team.
Nationally, nobody cares about you when you suck in the NFL. Perhaps only the Cowboys could come close to touching what Notre Dame has in this department.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed.
Let’s get back on the road to success. There will always be winning coaches out there when our winner leaves (or our loser is fired).
Honestly, who here at Louisville wouldn’t be content with a BCS bowl every 3 years and a legitimate shot at the national championship once a decade?
by Remote Cardinal on Dec 2, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions
I never understood the thinking that U of L FBall was one of the very few premier coaching spots
BBall yes, FBall— no. And it’s really only 5-10 premier coaching spots in either sport.
Hell—whether, sports or big business—even in corporate America, there are very few premier spots. And a lot of changing at the top spots.
There’s always a lot of pressure to produce at the highest levels of coaching or mgmt — and a lot of attrition.
Always has been, and always will be
Oh, no.
ESPN insider is saying our next coach will be Phil Fulmer. Sure hope this isn’t accurate.
theoldman
A source close to Kenny Klein just texted me
Appareny, a Cardinal fan just booed Fulmer as he was ordering a Big Mac because he didn’t go for 2. Jurich is upset and the courier-journal is already working the story.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It just says that he met with Jurich on Tuesday
He hasn’t been offered anything.
Jurich hasn’t talked to Strong and won’t until after the SEC title game. There’s no way we name a head coach before the next work week starts.
by Mike Rutherford on Dec 2, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
First college football news sayS
Strong is our top choice
by sam34gtr on Dec 2, 2009 2:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Interesting article...
…hope he’s hired soon after the SEC championship game.
I also gaze the comments, and on many comments, I wonder why most people outside the state of Kentucky think Louisville actually has “hillbillies” and “non-progressive” fans. Don’t they know that’s 70 miles east of here. :)
Great Article Mike
Just a great piece of writing, that as a Louisville fan, is about as unbiased as you could be. That’s why I continue to read this site. It always makes me think. That having been said, I do hope we get someone here who can at least see themselves staying here for awhile. They don’t have to commit to be here for forever, and this should NOT be a criteria for hiring someone (see Kragthorpe, Steve) but it would be a nice bonus.
by Chris Redman is my hero on Dec 2, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions
Well-written and spot on.
Somebody who wants a better job is somebody who wants to be a raging success in his current one.
ESPN radio on Strong
On the radio version of SportsCenter 5 min ago, the 2nd story was that Louisville is expected to contact Strong immediately following the SEC championship game.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Dec 2, 2009 3:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Louisville Making a Strong Push for a New Coach
Louisville May Be Down, But Plans to Come Up Strong
Will Charlie Be Strong Enough to Lift the Cards Back to the Top?
by sarasota-card on Dec 2, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Is he Strong enough to be our man?
Sheryl Crow is hot.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
Nice save.
That almost sounded gay there for a second.
by sarasota-card on Dec 2, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Re: Post as a whole
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by Sohl on Dec 2, 2009 5:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Great article and spot on.
Here’s the thing: Louisville will never be a top program until we start winning. We could never be a dream job for a big time coach because we weren’t BCS. now that we’re BCS, we have to start winning. It will take many years, lots of wins, and several “stepping stone” coaches for us toget to a point where some kid who loved Louisville football growing up decides that he wants to make this his home. And that’s still a big maybe.
Just because we had a little success four plus years ago does not mean we are a premier job. We’ve got great things going for us (lots of money, great boosters, good fans, and top notch facilities), but so do the Floridas, Notre Dames, and USCs of the world. Plus they have the name and history to go with it.
by CARD_G6 on Dec 2, 2009 5:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Bowden
At some point you’d think coaches would realize that staying somewhere and owning the program is a long-term better strategy than climbing higher and higher. Look at someone like Spurrier or Beamer and the all-time example, Bobby Bowden.
Although, needing a new challenge, getting more money and being in the SEC are all understandable goals.
Great post, I hope Charlie Strong reads it.
by CardsFan922 on Dec 2, 2009 6:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just wondering...
If anyone else heard Card Chronicle’s own Mike Rutherford, and this post in particular, mentioned by Big EZ on the EZ and Bo Show today?

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