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Pittsburgh Panthers at Louisville Cardinals, Jan 17, 2009 6:00 PM EST


The nervous pre-game calls are out of the way and now I'm in focus mode.

Let's get this, Marques.

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Go Cards.

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An hour and a half to go

….I feel like “Dutch” is about to tape my hands for a heavyweight championship fight.

Let’s win this one!

by Roz on Jan 17, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

To kill a little time before tip-off...

Cantwell is looking pretty sharp at the East-West Shrine game on ESPN

by DerbyCityDiva on Jan 17, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This always pisses me off

Here I am, an old man, paying more than I should for friggin’ satellite TV and they, with all their technical wizardry, can’t switch this part of the country to the RIGHT DAMN GAME!
By God I wish Uncle Ed Kallay was still around. He’d help. Or maybe Randy and Cactus. (See, told you I was old. Only frankpos knows what I’m talking about and he’s at the damn game. I bet.)

theoldman

by theoldman on Jan 17, 2009 6:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

T-bar-V ranch time!

and yep, I was at the Hall !!

by frankpos on Jan 17, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no joke

no espn360 for me, this could take forever.

it’s not like we’re waiting to watch the start of a home game against the undefeated no. 1 team or anything.

by doctorofdunk on Jan 17, 2009 6:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Enough with the Big Ten

If this goes to OT, I will riot.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 6:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gonna be a long nite

Looks like we are going to get embarrassed on Nat’l TV

Go Cards!

by Red Rage on Jan 17, 2009 6:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You know

If we lose this game because Pitt shoots us out of the building, well then I can deal with that.

by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 17, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

whatever

how about defense?

Go Cards!

by Red Rage on Jan 17, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't know

just got switched over from the Michigan State game

by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 17, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good Edgar

Drawing good fouls.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it seems

that with us being in the zone, and the way pitt is moving the ball, part of the reason we get smoked on the boards is because we’re out of position when the shot goes up.

by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 17, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is looking like a bad shooting night

Our record not so good on bad shooting nights.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 6:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What the hell

Terrence wasn’t even looking at the rim. I dunno, i don’t like the idea of the no-look alley oop. Annoying, that could have been a big play.

by bartenpa on Jan 17, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

true that

Syracuse looked pretty damn good today

by Schmucky on Jan 17, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Indeed they did.

One of the best teams in the nation from what I’ve seen.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

rautins is huge for them

that is the big difference for them from this season to last

by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 17, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fouls was BS

Should have been 10 sec

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Missed the travel

But called the BS foul. Good news.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jerry McGee?

That sounds like a U of L super guard, not a pitt center

by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 17, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nostrils!

anybody notice the nostrils on Wanamaker #22 for pitt?

WHOAAAAAAA baby!

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 17, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Paclife

needs some new commercials… i don’t give a shit about a whale, it tells me nothing

by Schmucky on Jan 17, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this is by far

the most physical team we’ve played…

glad they are letting them play… if this was NOVA samuels already would be gone

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 17, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hightower

lay off the humiliating pointing

by Schmucky on Jan 17, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm worried we don't have the lead...

We’re undefeated when we’re leading at halftime.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 7:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Some good news...

…only three of their players have fewer than 2 fouls. That’s three total, not just starters. We really need to pound it inside with SS, Jennings, and T-Will/Sosa drives to draw fouls. Take the playmakers out of the game.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anybody know

why Terrance Williams spent so much time on the bench at the end of the half? Does he have two fouls?

theoldman

by theoldman on Jan 17, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So Pitt's happy with the score because Blair and Young sat most of the half

And I’m happy with the rebounding because T-Will sat most of the half. Could be happier with the score, but we just need to keep creating turnovers and getting more opportunities. We can still score more points with poor % (we’re shooting 30.3% right now FYI) if we can get a lot more shooting opportunities. I would rather us just have a UK shooting night though.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hope it doesn't come back and bite us

but i can’t understand why we wouldn’t keep samuels in at the end there with blair and young out…with all the momentum at home and their best players in foul trouble, it was basically a big break for them to go in with the lead. didn’t keep track, did samardo have two as well?

by doctorofdunk on Jan 17, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We're lucky

to be this close, I suppose. Also thought bad Edgar reared his head in that first half. Oh, and somebody make sure Clark wakes from the nap he appeared to need during the halftime.

theoldman

by theoldman on Jan 17, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not that time

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 17, 2009 7:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

really need to get big men in the action…

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 17, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

clark looks unhappy could take a few plays off here…

lets see

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 17, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Clark

needs to come out

This season is gonna shave ten points off my life.

by Irememberwheat! on Jan 17, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jaime Dixon's half time speech:

“We need them to get more fouls. Every single time somebody bumps you fall down. You’ll draw a foul, whether or not it’s valid.”

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pitino's comments... pregame

Pitt is not a good shooting team with Ramon gone….

cant tell

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 17, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

CATCH the ball sam sam

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 17, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ESPN

I love the pitt worship show

This season is gonna shave ten years off my life.

by Irememberwheat! on Jan 17, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BETTER BETTER BETTER...

clark attacking now

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 17, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Earl!

How the hell can you miss a putback from 2 feet? Never understood that, because I’ve never been that close to the b asket.

theoldman

by theoldman on Jan 17, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

FUCKING SOSA!

keep your eye on ball!

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 17, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

God

4 on 1 rebounding, and we lose every time.

Go Cards!

by Red Rage on Jan 17, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just imagine if Blair were in there.

Honestly, we’re still winning the boards. If we were shooting better than 29, we would be fine. We’re only mildly OK because they’re shooting 40.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Huge swing

They have one guy to our three going into rebound, and he gets two boards.

by Mike Rutherford on Jan 17, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one who can't stand

The music for this Pacific Life commercial?

This season is gonna shave ten years off my life.

by Irememberwheat! on Jan 17, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i can't stand the commmercial, period

paclife has been rocking the whale for ages… time for a new marketing campaign

by Schmucky on Jan 17, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sosa is never going to get it,

whatever it is. And Clark loves to watch; so there’s that. And obvioulsy you can’t get outrebounded when you’re at a 3-1 advantage. Give a good team three possessions on one trip and boy, you’re in trouble.

Boy, we’re in trouble.

theoldman

by theoldman on Jan 17, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh my God Sosa

Maybe the worst Bad Edgar moment of all-time.

by Mike Rutherford on Jan 17, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dear Sosa...

…sit the fuck down.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 7:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Earl and Sosa

Seriously, that the fuck are you all doing?

by Mike Rutherford on Jan 17, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Getting Schooled

Embarassed…humiliated…bunch of immature brats on our team….

Go Cards!

by Red Rage on Jan 17, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No need for that.

It’s still only a 9 point game.

WKU was a humiliation.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok...

Good guys are playing heads up. Thank God.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i wish

fran would stop announcing with his head up his ass. i hate him for no reason.

by cardscott5 on Jan 17, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Commercials

I think we need more of them

This season is gonna shave ten years off my life.

by Irememberwheat! on Jan 17, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If that three would have gone in

It would have been the worst break ever. We should harass the shit out of Wanamaker.

by Mike Rutherford on Jan 17, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fuck these refs...

First they kill McGee, then they let SS get mugged, then they fuck Knowles. Great. Potential 6 point swing.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SS!

Not good when the announcers are amazed when your point guard gets an assist….

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

to edgar's credit

that was a great pass between players

by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 17, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

He’s had two good possessions in a row. I’m just saying, it’s kind of sad that he can’t bring this intensity all the time. If he were playing like that consistently, he and T-Will would be racking up the assists.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it also helps

when your bigs are moving… and not posted up on same side

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Jan 18, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if you are going to rip sosa for mistakes

you should give him some props for a good play, that was a great play

by Ben Go CARDS on Jan 17, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's how you tie it up!

This season is gonna shave ten years off my life.

by Irememberwheat! on Jan 17, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Worried about the close game?

It’s pretty much par for the course at this point.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sosa is confounding

in that the same guy who made the terrific look to Samuels for the tie made two of the lazliest passes of the year that resulted in scores at the other end. Coach Fran said something with which I agree (a first, by the way) Sosa’s the type of player who keeps both teams in the game.

theoldman

by theoldman on Jan 17, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow

we got bailed out there

by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 17, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

The hand to the face was def a foul. Just not one that gets called in the Big East often, for good reason.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

just play smart here

by Ben Go CARDS on Jan 17, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ok, still ok

gotta play defense though

by Ben Go CARDS on Jan 17, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

edgar

does not want us to relax for a second

by cardscott5 on Jan 17, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!!!!!!!!

Happy fucking birthday Earl Clark!

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching this with a UK fan

needless to say…history need not repeat itself

by Chris Redman is my hero on Jan 17, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Come on, SS.

Make these, and it should be good to go.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and one

mother fucker. come on

by cardscott5 on Jan 17, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Where was the foul?

Besides when he pushed Clark.

Fuck fuck fuck.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

reach on the pass the on the floor

by Ben Go CARDS on Jan 17, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

was a cheap foul, but either on the floor or no call

by Ben Go CARDS on Jan 17, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Come on.

Make these Sosa. Probably should have inbounded to SS.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OMG...

These are refs are still pulling for Pitt.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no crap

it was effing blatant once they called that travel with 5 seconds to go. they can suck a sausage.

by davidson07 on Jan 17, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't it seem like about a week ago

when the Cards were down 20-7 to start this game? YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

by CardsFanTX on Jan 17, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it's amazing what 5 can do when his head is in the game

and i want someone to do that shot fake in front of sam young at some point, so he can see how obnoxious and pointless it is—a providence win gives us the only unbeaten record in the best conference in america. not bad, fellas.

by doctorofdunk on Jan 17, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YEEEEAAAAH!

WHAT A GAME, WHAT A TEAM. GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This season is gonna shave ten years off my life.

by Irememberwheat! on Jan 17, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What a game....

can’t believe we won as poorly as we shot but fantastic defense (MOST of the game anyway….) Wasn’t it Denny who said Defense Wins Games….go CARDS!!!! Happy Birthday E5 !!! ,o)

by Linda on Jan 17, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i saw it

did he slap pitino on th ass as he was walking away?

by doctorofdunk on Jan 17, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, it was amazing to see our fans rush the floor

After that unbelievable victory over the unstoppable Pitt Panthers…

by bartenpa on Jan 17, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

did we reallyrush the court? i hope now, we’ve been there before, we should act like it

by Ben Go CARDS on Jan 17, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, it was a joke.

Pitt fans were convinced that we would rush the court after beating the almighty Pitt Panthers. It was the biggest win in history, you know.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i was hoping so

i didnt think our fans would rush the court over that, we’ve beating #1 teams before

by Ben Go CARDS on Jan 17, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, should have been clearer

There was an article last week where some Pittsburgh sportswriter was having some very serious delusions of grandeur, assuming we would rush the floor if we beat Pitt.

by bartenpa on Jan 17, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think there was like 5-6..

people that made it on court. Doesnt define “rushing the court” in my opinion. Eat that Pitt.

by twistedwedge on Jan 17, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so

we held blair to 10 boards and 9 points, fields to 8 points (he did have 8 assists) plus some TO’s, and young to 14 points on 6-20 shooting. after that hot start for them and our terrible start, i love how we played excellent defense to get back in the game and eventually win out. Very happy. Keep it up though, there is no letting up in the Big East

by Ben Go CARDS on Jan 17, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!

Oh man, oh man, oh man!!!

Grog

"There is no OFF position to the genius switch" - D. Letterman

by GrogInOhio on Jan 17, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I woulda called you a homer

if you predicted a 4-0 BE start a couple weeks ago. Now you just look really really smart.

by CardsFanTX on Jan 17, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Seriously though, it was looking like a sad 0-4 start for us before the UK game. Who would’ve thought?

In other news, I can’t wait for Mike’s post-game analysis. I almost wish it were already up.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

THAT JUST HAPPENED

I have a huge* boner and lots of beer, gonna be a great night.

*small

by sam34gtr on Jan 17, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Wow. Regression to the mean is an important thing. We shoot 1/9 from 3 in the first half, they shoot 7/10.

And if Earl shoots that shot (where he dribbles right, doesn’t realize the shot clock is about to expire, takes a fading shot from just inside the 3 point line) 10 times in 10 games, how many times does he swish it like that? 1? 2?

What a game. I can’t believe we won. We basically shut down Blair. Sam Young is good but I didn’t realize he only shot 6-20. Two of those were sick dunks so he really shot 4-18 on jumpers. I’ll take it.

Fields had 6 TOs. Wow.

Earl played terrible for the first 30 minutes, then did everything he needed to do to get the win.

We tried (with the refs help) to make it close at the end, with the foul on the rebound on our free throws, a random loose ball and-1 by Blair, “walk” where both of our players get the rebound, T-Will skying for a rebound, getting hit by two guys, falling, and getting a travel call, and then everyone’s favorite, the sosa turnover.

The refs? Two very close calls that went our way late – the ball off sosa on their end of the court and they gave it to us and then the fields push-off on sosa on the inbounds. Overall a frustrating game, with some weird calls.

Terrance Jennings stripping Fields at half court and going uncontested for a dunk?!?!? But T-Will and Earl 2-on-1 and they can’t score? If Will Scott and Juan Palacious could score 2-on-1 on Dante Greene (one of Mike’s funniest in-game posts ever, is there a less likely 2-on-1 to score than that?) then how can T-Will and Earl (and Sosa and T-will) not score on 2-on-1s???!?!? So frustrating.

3/4 from 3 from T-Will and Preston 3/5 from 3 (all in the second half).

And finally, the defense.

I can’t believe we won that game.

by CardsFan922 on Jan 17, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Believe it.

That just happened

This season is gonna shave ten years off my life.

by Irememberwheat! on Jan 17, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Officiating was not so great

Not just for us either. Pitt got some bad calls as well. Of course, reading the ESPN boards, PItt fans are thoroughly convinced that Pitt was robbed by the refs, but whatever.

But uneven officiating seems to be a trend this season in the Big East. It’s something we’re just going to have deal with.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Marques

good job

This season is gonna shave ten years off my life.

by Irememberwheat! on Jan 17, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Mike, if you ever let go of this Marques picture, I will riot.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AWESOME

just plain friggin AWESOME. That was THE loudest Ive heard the fans in the Hall to date. Great game, great win…GO CARDS!!

by twistedwedge on Jan 17, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

In other news...

…I’m enjoying watching UNC lose at home to a very mediocre Miami team. Maybe this team is not all they thought they were. If they lose this game and continue to play poorly, they may just be the biggest disappointment of the season.

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the miami coach

actually said that one of the problems of the first half was that they weren’t getting calls. i didn’t think coaches could be honest when doing halftime interviews? carolina seems a little off this year. they don’t seem that much better than last year.

by cardscott5 on Jan 17, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Our D and , amazingly, our rebounding did it. We did a damn good job

on the boards.

And Samardo got Blair in foul trouble—just like Harangody the other night. Samardo is learning to draw the fouls from the other team’s big guys—which is huge.

I don’t know if the Hall was any louder tonight than for UK or Notre Dame—they were all awesomely LOUD games with the fans standing and screaming and urging the team on.

Just an amazing string of close wins over top -notch teams….

I am now pantless and drinking bourbon.

by frankpos on Jan 17, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good analysis

I however, have kept my pants on, and am drinking Pepsi. I may go for a beer here in a few, though.
Cheers!

by CARD_G6 on Jan 17, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a terrific win,

especially when you consider that, really, we played pretty poorly in a lot of ways on the offensive end. Sosa? Good grief. But really, we may be the best damn defensive team in the whole wide world of college basketball. We will flat make you earn the overwhelming majority of your points. And that could take us a long, long way, though it’s still pretty early in a daunting Big East season to go overboard with anything.

We were lucky enough to get Notre Dame and Pitt at home. Syracuse may be the best team in the league right now, says Pitino. But whoo, hooo. Who cares, we’re 4-0.

theoldman

by theoldman on Jan 17, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

1 pt combined from jerry and mcgee

just goes to show you that our depth really does do wonders for us in these kinds of games. we can have some key players have off nights offensively and get away with it, and several of the big east teams we’ve played thus far just can’t say the same (particularly tonight, with blair having a ho-hum outing and young going 6-20). hope the boys don’t look past lowly rutgers.

on an unrelated note, i noticed that michgan was wearing throwback unis (they’re now with adidas) from their 89 title team tonight. what do we need to do to make this happen for us? the thought of our team striding out there in the home jerseys we wore in the 80/86 seasons seems quite nice. who’s with me on this?

by doctorofdunk on Jan 17, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey I'm with you

just like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Germans?

by CardsFanTX on Jan 17, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sam, there was a big reason they had bad night -- US

no, won’t be the same a t their place

but I’ll bet we beat them—again— if we play like last night again

by frankpos on Jan 18, 2009 7:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pitt plays a notch better at MSG

but the key lately has been wearing other teams down with depth inside and out. When opposing guards get winded, presses and halfcourt defense get that much better for our guys. As long as they can hang around until midway thru the 2nd half, it becomes advantage UofL in the late stages. Only foul trouble puts this strategery (as Bush would say) in peril.

by CardsFanTX on Jan 18, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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