Open Thread: Louisville vs. Notre Dame
by Mike Rutherford on Jan 12, 2009 6:07 PM EST
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PrintNotre Dame Fighting Irish at Louisville Cardinals, Jan 12, 2009 7:00 PM EST
The first Big Monday of the year and a second top 20 opponent in three days. Don't let us down now, Marques.
Go Cards.
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Bad news early
Jim Burr AND Karl Hess will be patrolling the Freedom Hall sidelines this evening.
Harangody might get 40 from the stripe alone.
by Mike Rutherford on Jan 12, 2009 6:15 PM EST reply actions
Gonna be a physical game
Especially between Harangody and Samuels/Jennings. I’d like to see what Jennings can do against him defensively.
did you hear that?
E5… “right at the crew cut…”
priceless
Highlighter of the week?
I absolutely hate this shit.
by Mike Rutherford on Jan 12, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions
Also, why are they sitll nutswinging off Harangody?
He’s sweating like a stuck pig and T-Will has more points. He’s done not much over the last 6 or 7 minutes, including letting both Samuels and Clark dunk over him. Oh yeah, an Jennings was in the last 5 minutes of the game, and Luke had almost no points.
McAlarney
Apparently we decided defending him wasn’t important after the first 13 minutes.
by Mike Rutherford on Jan 12, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions
Can we play some defense?
It would be nice to see us kind of watch for McAlarney and Harangody… let Zeller try and beat you, for crap’s sake
harongody looks like he's having a seizure every time he shoots
the guy gets more garbage points than oscar the grouch
It occurs to me...
that if we could shoot just a little bit, we’d have a double digit lead. Oh, and if we could realize second-half play has begun, we might stay within striking distance. Good grief guys.
theoldman
Harongody
is a walking testimony to hard work. Much as I hate to say it. And if we’ve fallen in love with the three again, we’re doomed as doomed can be.
theoldman
That's why we should be going at it more.
You can’t get in a shoot-out with ND, because they’ll most likely win. Larney and Gody are shooting like 90% right now.
Not pleased with our shot selection
Make Harangody work on defense and get tired by throwing it in to Samuels. This is not rocket science.
God
Even when they do call the foul on Gody it screws us.
by Mike Rutherford on Jan 12, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions
That's horrible
He doesn’t blow the whistle until he realizes Harangody lost the ball.
by Mike Rutherford on Jan 12, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions
Helacious defense...
Absolutely helacious. Everybody’s playing it, too. McGee’s pressure on the ball is terrific and something I wish Mr. Sosa could do/would do. One more stop and perhaps we can get a little distance…
theoldman
C'mon 'Dre
Really poor job of handling the momentum the right way.
by Mike Rutherford on Jan 12, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions
agree
hit earl cutting down the lane for a dunk…then the house goes crazy
Defense is really good now
But shot selection is starting to wane again…. figures.
Hey, Jennings blocked Gody. That may just be my favorite part of the second half (the Clark dunk over Gody being the favorite first half play).
I sure hope
those two empty trips come back to haunt us. Jennings has really quick feet, by the way, and seems to me to be much quicker off his feet that Samuels. Certainly not as skilled, but still, just an observation.
theoldman
Absolutely correct
He could be a better player than Samuels, but his basketball IQ is low. He’s quicker, taller, longer, and better on defense. He’s got a quicker release on offense too that can really help him on putbacks and nice moves against taller opponents (read: Thabeet). However, he doesn’t get himself in position like Samuels can. Samuels can really work himself around a defender to get the ball in the low post, which Jennings seems a bit apathetic to do. Also, they said that Pitino doesn’t like his off-schedule work ethic, as he doesn’t pay attention to scouting reports or read up on the competition, which could come back to hurt him.
But let’s be honest, to be getting this kind of performance from him defensively is a true asset, especially considering how many fouls Samuels has been/will be getting. He’s good on defense, which is a big help. The offense will come as Pitino works with him, but until then, we’ve got Clark and T-Will to clean up inside. Most of the time.
McGee, please
Sosa obviously isn’t much interested in defending tonight. I mean, for gosh sakes, McAlarney is slower than I am. Well, anyway he’s slow. We ought to be able to keep him out of the lane.
theoldman
May have been
But McAlarney’s gotten into the lane twice, and once off a simple screen at the top that involved Smith and Sosa.
theoldman
I would almost rather have Jennings in right now.
Offense would suffer a bit, but he’s proven much more effective at stopping Harangody.
In the half court
we can’t score enough to hang with these guys. Helter skelter we do just fine. Running stuff for Clark ends up, if he misses, with no one on the off side to rebound for some reason. This is one we might piss away, I’m afraid. But a long time yet.
theoldman
i just love
how earl attacks the glass for rebounds this season. when he truly wants it, ain’t nobody else getting that rock
Don't you just love it
when Notre Dame has a trip and doesn’t let Harongody touch it? Hope they keep that up, and yep, go back into Samuels and let’s foul this sucker out.
theoldman
Great possession
Now we’ve got to make free throws, make free throws, make free throws.
theoldman
Luckily TJ has fouls to give.
I think we’ll be seeing Samardo come in now on offense to take it at Gody.
Okay, Mr. Pitino
go against history and tradition and draw something up that works. How about Mr. Samuels on the low block?
theoldman
that was our last timeout?
seems kind of silly, but I guess necessary to get samardo in there?
Why was Clark not attacking Gody?
I almost think get a quick foul here so we can have last possession.
Damn!
Just got home from work and I missed all this? G’damn.
I love the smell of commerce in the morning
I would not call it up for Will Scott.
Although I love him.
you think it's easier on the older guys?
we’re going lose a few before it’s over with
but they’ll go happy
Somebody please tell me
how these morons in the stripped shirts came up with two-tenths? Looking at the replay there was at least a second on the clock. But what the hell, it was Burr right? He just guessed. It’s what he does most of the time.
theoldman
Hate to say it, but this might be great for us if Larney is out the rest of the game.
I hope he’s ok, though.
Damn
You could see that Hilesland play coming from 3/4 court. Stop the ball, Earl.
theoldman
Holy Moly!
We’re showing some basketball smarts!
theoldman
Even 83fan knows to throw the ball to
the C who’s being guarded by a scrawny G.
the guy was draped around samrdo's legs, for god's sake and we
still didn’t get him the ball that play
TERRANCE JENNINGS!
And for that matter, TERRANCE WILLIAMS! What a game these guys are playing. What a game. McGee’s pressure on the ball in amazing and important, too. (Gotta stick up for the little guys.)
theoldman
"How tall was Ellison"
2nd best line of the night behind:
“Someone needs to call a Timeout … so I can watch the Earl Clark dunk again”
I wasn't much of a fan last season.
He seemed to be still holding a grudge over the ‘86 championship, and was down on Louisville a lot. But his analysis is usually spot on, and he’s pretty truthful about us this season, and sees the potential.
But yes, the “how tall was Ellison” comment was funny. I also liked the “I helped hang that 86 championship banner in this building.” I remember a game last year where he was talking about Louisville and said that Ellison was so hard to guard and there just wasn’t anything he could do.
was that Boeheim?
in the shot for a second at the end of the game?
What a win, what a win
The pressure we put on the ball from beginning to end just took the legs right from under a very good team. Best win of the year — Jennings, McGee, the incomperable T-Will. Thanks to Bilas who said, time and time again tonight, that Terrance Williams was the best player on the floor. He was right.
theoldman
Yeah, we had a few lapses
But even when ND was scoring, they were hitting some pretty amazing shots.
I think a lot of people will point to the fact that ND has been weak on the road this year, and forever at Freedom Hall.
But this wasn’t a bad night for them. They were scoring tons of points, contested or not. Harangody had 28 points, Larney had like 5 threes. But you can see where the depth of Louisville payed off. We didn’t have to have any players play a full 45 minutes like Larney and almost Gody.
The contrast in the defense in our game
and what’s going on with OU v. Texas is amazing.
Big 12 isn't usually very big on defense...
See: 30 point Oklahoma blowout by UofL in the tourney last season. Then again, we also blew out Tennessee right after that, but everybody sees just how tough the SEC really is this year…
Did you see the first half?
There wasn’t a ton of defense in the first half of our game, either… but not as bad as the Texas D right now.
Yes, but I thought our D
was pretty solid in the first half. Almost every Gody basket was me saying, “you can’t stop that one.” And Mac was hitting 25 footers.
I agree
While press was harder in the second half, especially from Dre, I thought the first half was pretty solid. Jennings especially had a good defensive game. I think we have proven now that Jennings is more of a defensive power than Samuels, but his offense is not quite as strong. If he could just learn to get himself into position stronger and quicker, he could be right up there, and the two would be nearly interchangeable.
But let’s face it, while about half of Harangody’s and McAlarney’s shots in the first half were far too open, the other half were well contested. But there’s no doubt that it was downright suffocating in the second half. Just look at the box score. Had our shot selection been better down the stretch, we would have won the game handily.
Clark's dunk?
Can someone describe or post a youtube clip for those of us who could only catch the last few minutes + Overtime?
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 12, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions
Just watch SC top ten plays if you can't see it on youtube, cause I'm sure it will be there.
But I’ll describe it to you. Clark started at the high post, right side (facing the basket). He had Gody and the other F (Hillesland or w/e his name is) in front of him, as well as Larney I believe. He drove down the left low post past all of them and dunked over Gody while Gody clearly fouled him (his forearm hit Clark in the face), but it wasn’t called. It was a really strong two-handed dunk over Gody in the air, which was followed by the signature Clark mad face.
My description:
Clark taking his usual glide to the left side of the basket and preparing to take his usual floating bank. And then all of a sudden it was dunk. And hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz-K22XdbVU&fea%20ture=channel_page
by Mike Rutherford on Jan 12, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Mike....You give and you give and you give....
Incidentally, that play was exactly how 83fan described it. Clark strolling through the lane to throw up a ho-hum floater off the square and then he channeled Alvin Sims with the two-handed crewcut facial.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 12, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
if we keep having games
like this all year, half the board is going to be in the hospital or dead by the big east tourney. at least we get a relaxing game with the undefeated number 1 team in the nation saturday
just got back from Freedom Hall
When twill made that “game winning” dunk I definitely grabbed the old man stranger sitting to my right and starting jumping up and down. true story. What a game!
Def should have been the game winning dunk.
Replay showed clearly that Williams touched the ball first.
Either way, had we won that way, we wouldn’t have had the satisfaction of killing them 16-2 in OT and seeing Harangody foul out about 20 minutes later than he should have.
OMG
I’ve never heard Freedom Hall as loud as when TWill hit that dunk. For those watching at home, should it have counted? I thought they stopped the clock before he dunked, so that if he had gone free he would have not gotten the dunk off in time?
Anyway, Earl’s dunk was unreal. I really wish I could have heard Bilas and Raftery talking about that afterwards.
What a game. When SS got his 4th foul, putting them in the bonus, and we were down like 3-4 points, I thought it was over. We couldn’t rely on 3 point shooting and they were going to spend the rest of the game at the line, is what I thought.
Then Pitino switched to man-to-man, Knowles prevented McA from getting any more shots off, McGee ate up Jackson, and the rest is history.
What a game. Wow.
would not have counted
He touched the ball with between 0.8 and 1.0 seconds on the clock, then took about 5 steps and dunked. If the refs viewed the play as T-Will touching it first, then they should’ve called him for a travel prior to/as the clock ran out. If they viewed it as T-Will touching it first AND ignored the travel, there’s no way he would’ve got it off before the horn/red backboard thingy.
Would’ve been a f’in sweet way to win a basketball game though, especially a hard fought game like this one, particularly by Terrence Williams.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 12, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Surely you DVRed it so you can see.
I think TWill beat Gody to the ball, and I think he might have put it down in time. Would have had about 1.0 seconds.
unfortunately....
I won’t be home for a few months so I couldn’t DVR it, but the 6 replays they showed were pretty obvious—TWill took 4-5 steps w/o dribbling and touched it with between .08 and 1.0 left on the clock. So even if they ignored the travel, I’m not sure it’s possible to go 26 feet and dunk in less than a second.
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 12, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Don't call me Shirley
Didn’t TIVO this one. The replay is on tomorrow on ESPNU at 2:30, so I will record that and watch 10-12 times in slo-mo until my wife takes away the remote.
by CardsFan922 on Jan 12, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
You mean the ND player who threw the ball across the court at the basket before the buzzer?
Or did you shoot a shot during halftime break? If it’s the latter, then no, as ESPN does halftime coverage in the studio.
jdm_nodoubt
Haven’t been on there in forever, though. I only have like 200 posts, even though I’ve been a member for like 4 years. I just like to browse, don’t comment much, so you probably aren’t aware of my existence. I just remember seeing your IS300 and how nice it was. I wanted to get an IS300 when I was car shopping, but the budget didn’t permit, and I couldn’t find a decent one with a 5spd.
Amen to that.....
for TWill to play for 43 minutes at that pace – wow. He must be in fantastic shape. We just got home from the game and I am exhausted from screaming my head off. Bad call taking away TWill’s dunk/points with :06 to go in regulation play but that seem to ignite the team. I haven’t see that kind of defense since Denny was coach – awesome, awesome, awesome. There was a yUK fan sitting behind me and she was all giggly especially when ND went up. During the OT when we started our run, she left…..huh! What a surprise and what a great win for our program. I sure hope Pitt doesn’t look past SF and comes in here Saturday as No. 1. I can’t see SF being able to play with them much less beat them but you never know. If Pitt comes in here No. 1, Freedom Hall will rock again. If we play as well as we played tonight, we can play with ANYBODY in the country. Whew, What a game. Go CARDS!
What a game and what a crowd!
And what an overtime! That just eclipsed the most points we had ever scored in an overtime—the Dream Game OT massacre of UK!
Piss on Pitt
We have just beaten UK and the 18th and 12th ranked teams in the country.
I thought if we won 2 of these 3 BE games, the Cards should be very happy.
We have nothing to lose!
happy, yes...
…but if we lose to Pitt by 24 and TWill is 0-7 from 3, it’ll be a bad hangover…
by UL is my hot hot sex on Jan 12, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly though
A Louisville team hasn’t lost by 20+ since the 2003-04 season vs. TCU. We lost 71-46.
TCU?
No, We've just won 3 huge games in a row
It would be bad if we lost, but not awful at this stage—just a chance to size them up for later…
Dammit, Act like a man!
I Promise You One Thing. A Lot Of Good Will Come Outta This.
You Will Never See Anyone Type On The Message Boards As Much As I Will For The Rest of This Season .
You Will Never See Anyone Push and Root For His Team As Hard As I Will For The Rest of This Season.
And You Will Never See Another Team Fight Tougher and Harder Than Louisville Will In the Big East For The Rest of This Season.
God Bless.
by AllinWithMyCards on Jan 12, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSS
I knew it would
I Promise You One Thing. A Lot Of Good Will Come Outta This.
You Will Never See Anyone Type On The Message Boards As Much As I Will For The Rest of This Season .
You Will Never See Anyone Push and Root For His Team As Hard As I Will For The Rest of This Season.
And You Will Never See Another Team Fight Tougher and Harder Than Louisville Will In the Big East For The Rest of This Season.
God Bless.
by AllinWithMyCards on Jan 13, 2009 12:24 AM EST reply actions
Marques Maybin does it again!
I have no voice at work today. Also, the chances of my catching a communicable disease from the 100 people I high fived last night is highly likely. GO CARDS!!!!
Leigh
Road to redemption
Is paved with pictures of Norte Dame’s golden boy getting dunked on by Earl, and my dad’s screaming at Earl
by Irememberwheat! on Jan 13, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions
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