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Jumbo coaches

Kansas State, Maryland and Toledo football teams all have one thing in common...Jumbo head coaches. These men somehow get away with the "do as I say, not as I do"  approach to coaching/teaching.

 If they can get kids to dedicate themselves to the rigorous conditioning that it takes to play college sports these days, when they themselves do the direct opposite, some would say, "more power to them."

Personally, I like the Rick Pitino approach much better. Coach P stays in shape. So, let's look, for example, at the amazing transformation in a player, Ellis Myles, and a coach, Scottie Davenport.

Most football coaches would not employ a fat, out of shape guy on the coaching staff. Last time I looked (Spring game) our football team had two.

If the head coach complains that players who "someone else recruited" do not have discipline but, at the same time, he doesn't insist that his assistant coaches exemplify discipline, he has no credibility.  I'll bet it's really hard to coach when you don't have credibility.

I'd be interested to know what you think?

 

 

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I don’t know how these huge coaches can command any respect or discipline from their players when they are so physically out of shape. it may seem trivial to some but if personal example weren’t important, Rick P wouldn’t put such emphasis on staying in shape. He’d just pig out at Porcino’s every night…..which I might add, would be oh so lovely. I saw a clip of some of our U of L football players on the news last night and some of them looked more fat than in shape. When Petrino was here ( yadda, yadda, yadda) our guys looked rock solid. It’s all part of conditioning. Again, have you taken a good look at Krag lately?

by Linda on Jun 28, 2008 11:54 AM EDT   0 recs

Charlie Weiss

Hasn’t missed any meals lately either.

by Roz on Jun 29, 2008 8:17 PM EDT   0 recs

I think

...you are mixing up K-state and KU’s coaches. Prince at K-State is no small guy, but Mark Mangino at Kansas is the guy who looks like he could be a sumo wrestler.

by Macadu18 on Jun 30, 2008 3:23 PM EDT   0 recs

Speaking of Coaches/Managers either Jumbo or Otherwise

....isn’t it interesting that baseball seems to be the only major sport where the manager, and coaches as well, all wear uniforms. Yeah, strait on down to the stirrups and the sanitary hose under the bloused pants. Spikes? Of course…just in case 87 year old Casey Stengle got a hankerin’ to slide into second base. I wonder if Tommy Lasorda wore a batting glove? Ever notice all that pine tar on Ozzie Guillen’s hands?
The exception to this sartorial splendor, or course, was the legendary Connie Mack, who coached the Philadelphia A’s (a team which beat the Murderer’s Row Yankee Teams of Ruth and Gehrig THREE years in a row in the 30’s) from the year 1066 until 1950. It always seemed incongruous to see Connie standing in the dugout with the likes of Jimmy Foxx and Lefty Grove, and wearing a tan suit with matching topper…but I never saw him NOT wearing the suit. “Hey Connie, you ain’t gonna slide into home in that suit are ya?”

So we have all other baseball managers wearing the baseball uniform.

But not in football. Can you imagine the boorish Bill Parcels standing on the sidelines, clipboard in hand, big visored helmet squarely on his noggin’, huge shoulder pads stretching the big blue NY Giants uniform totally out of shape, as he argues with a linesman that he didn’t pull the chains tight enough on a first and ten spot?

Or in football. You don’t see Stan Van Gundy strapping it on underneath a pair of baggy shorts, do you? Or Red Auerbach? Did he wear a sweat band as he penciled in Havlicek and KC Jones into the lineup? His jersey doesn’t hang from the Boston Garden rafters does it?

Well, does it, Blunt one?

Speaking of suits….ever see a picture of former baseball commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis? Now that’s a mean looking guy! I think he had a french poodle named “Spike.” Wouldn’t want to hit your wiffle ball into his back yard.

Roz

by Roz on Jun 30, 2008 5:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Woody Hayes was a lttle portly,

but he was in top shape. Hayes was barrel chested and his stomach simply picked up where his chest left off. He ran almost everywhere he went…usually in pursuit of an offensive lineman who missed a block and was in need of …well…consultation.

You mentioned baseball managers wearing uniforms, Roz. Hayes wore football shoes on the sidelines during games with his dress pants, white short sleeve shirt, OSU necktie and grey sport coat. The coat would come off (even in zero degree weather) as soon as OSU failed to get a first down. He’d rip it off, slam it to the ground, and the guys on the field would be afraid to come off the field.

He always wore “cleats” at practice, too. Occasionally he would assume a three point stance with no helmet and no shoulder pads to demonstrate to an errant student athlete the concept of the proper blocking or tackling procedure. Woody would seize the opportunity to relate to the young man the devastatiing impact of being hit head-on by a semi tractor trailer.

Ah yes….he was a lovely man.

by MrBlunt on Jun 30, 2008 8:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Too bad

Wayne Woodrow Hayes snapped on the sidelines of that bowl game that night.
I think we can safely say that he was “old school.” There’s a great DVD about the Ten Years War with Michigan and Bo….I cut my hand in front of the Agora Club on High Street after drinking four hundred and eleven 3.2 beers after we beat the Maise And Blue in 1970.

Conservatively I think UofM cost Ohio State four #1’s, four National Championships in the late seventies and eighties, particularly when the Buckeye coach was Cooper. I think Cooper was something like 1W 10L 1T against Michigan.

And if you check the all time record against Michigan, the Maise are still way ahead. Nobody could beat them until Hayes got there in the early 1950’s.

Both are in my all time top ten collegiate programs, along with Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, Notre Dame, Penn State, Alabama, Texas, and for the last twenty five years of the last century, FSU.

by Roz on Jun 30, 2008 10:52 PM EDT   0 recs

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