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Nine questions dominating the Big East basketball offseason

We've officially entered the danger zone for the perilously suicidal college sports fan. Any possible hangover period following the end of March Madness has been sufficiently slept off, and three months until toe meets leather is still far too much time to start assembling tailgating paraphernalia.

The only things we have at times like these are words, alcohol and Jon & Kate Plus 8 reruns on TLC.

We'll go with words today, and tackle the nine biggest questions prevalent during the Big East basketball offseason.

BORING LEAGUE OR BORING CLASSES?

We'll start with the perennial issue of should I stay or should I go, because with the June 16 deadline looming, this is the issue that will be cleared up first. Jerel McNeal's decision to return to Marquette for his senior season means that there are now just two Big East underclassmen still on the fence: Syracuse's Donte Greene, and West Virginia's Joe Alexander.

When he first threw his name out there in early April, Alexander stated that he was doing so just to get a handle on potential opportunities, and added: "As of now, I cannot see myself leaving because it would be very tough for me to miss a year playing with my teammates."

It's safe to say that the tide may be turning.

Mighty Joe was one of only 15 players to receive the elite "physical only" invitation to the NBA Pre-Draft camp in Orlando, and now he's seeing his name pop up as a top ten pick in more and more mock drafts. Regardless of how much he loves college and wants to win a championship at West Virginia, Alexander's draft stock is unlikely to ever be higher than it is right now, and that's a situation he might not be able to afford bypassing.

Thought it probably shouldn't be, Greene's situation appears much more cut-and-dry. The former Syracuse freshman has wanted to go pro since the Orange were bounced from the NIT, and less-than-stellar evaluations and mock draft projections haven't changed that.

While it's almost a certainty that Greene would be a lottery pick  in the 2009 draft (which figures to be much weaker), he's apparently hellbent on pushing his luck this summer. Unless he absolutely bombs in Orlando this week, he's gone.

In the unlikely event that Greene and Alexander both decide to return to school for another year, it would mean that the Big East would have lost zero underclassmen to the NBA Draft. And even if both players do hire agents, the conference losing just two non-seniors after a season where it put eight teams into the NCAA Tournament is pretty remarkable.

WHO'S NUMBER ONE?

This is a topic for discussion that will last us well beyond the summer months.

So many Big East teams losing so little after successful campaigns in '07-'08 means that which squad deserves to be the league's preseason favorite in '08-'09 is a serious point of contention.

A look at the candidates:

CONNECTICUT

UConn's season came to a disappointing end when A.J. Price tore his ACL and the Huskies were upset in the first round of the NCAA Tournament by 13th-seeded San Diego. The silver lining brought up almost immediately following the defeat was that they wouldn't be losing any contributors to graduation. When 7-foot sophomore center Hasheem Thabeet announced that he would not be taking his game to the next level, it meant that Connecticut would be returning its top six scorers.

Reserves Curtis Kelly and Doug Wiggins have since announced their intentions to transfer, but that's mostly because of the stellar freshman class that Jim Calhoun is bringing in, which includes top-15 recruits Ater Majok and Kemba Walker.

If Price's injury heals as it should, you could be looking at the preseason No. 1 in all of America.

LOUISVILLE

U of L had the best postseason of any team in the Big East, advancing all the way to Elite Eight before being knocked out of the tournament by top seed North Carolina. The Cardinals lost the heart and soul of their team - not to mention their leading scorer - when center David Padgett graduated, but his replacement just happens to be USA Today's newly-crowned National Player of the Year, Samardo Samuels.

Forwards Terrence Williams and Earl Clark return after flirtations with the NBA - the latter's more intense than the former's - and the starting backcourt of Andre McGee and Jerry Smith is also back.

In a league this strong, it's possible that Louisville will be rated higher nationally by some preseason publications than they will in their own conference by some others.

NOTRE DAME

It's very possible that a team which lost just one contributor, returns the reigning Big East Player of the Year and another first team All-Conference selection will be ranked lower to start 2008-2009 than it finished 2007-2008 (tied for second).

While the Irish's dismal performance against Washington State was as disappointing as any in the tournament, it shouldn't completely cancel out a season that saw them win 25 games and average 80 ppg.

MARQUETTE

The Golden Eagles will be another team fighting to carry the "no respect" banner into next season.

The sensational guard trio of Dominic James, Wesley Matthews and Jerel McNeal return for their senior seasons, as does much improved junior-to-be Lazar Hayward. Lack of an inside game will again be the point of attack for naysayers, but a healthy Trevor Mbakwe as well as incoming freshman center Chris Otule will look to make MU more formidable in the post.

But the biggest story surrounding Marquette all year will be the maiden season of head coach Buzz Williams, who steps in for Hoosier head man Tom Crean.

PITTSBURGH

What about the reigning tournament champs? Co-Freshman of the Year DeJuan Blair is back, as is 2008 breakout star Sam Young. The departure of sharpshooters Ronald Ramon and Keith Benjamin is a blow, but the healthy return of senior point guard/captain Levance Fields is at worst an even trade. If swingman Mike Cook is granted a sixth-year of eligibility by the NCAA, then this team has a legitimate claim to be the league's preseason No. 1.

SYRACUSE

Another team being widely overlooked is the Orange, which brings back co-Freshman of the Year Jonny Flynn, the rejuvenated Paul Harris, and the backcourt duo of Eric Devendorf and Andy Rautins, who both missed last season with knee injuries. If big man Arizne Onuaku continues to develop, and freshman Mookie Jones can contribute as much as some are anticipating, then this squad has the potential to surprise everyone and capture the regular season title.

GEORGETOWN

No team was hit harder by graduation than the two-time defending league champs, who lost starters Roy Hibbert and Jonathan Wallace as well as the league's best sixth man, Patrick Ewing Jr., to graduation. The good news is that JT III is bringing in one of the nation's top big men in Greg Monroe, and two more blue chip freshmen in center Henry Sims and guard Jason Clark. Georgetown also has a pair of former McDonald's All-Americans returning in Austin Freeman and Chris Wright, as well as Jeff Green clone DaJuan Summers.

The fall for the Hoyas isn't going to be nearly as steep as some in the league would like.

WEST VIRGINIA

With Devin Ebanks, Kevin Jones and Roscoe Davis, Bob Huggins may have very well reeled in the best recruiting class Morgantown has ever seen. If Alexander does return for one more year, then this squad has a legitimate gripe to be the league's preseaon No. 1.

VILLANOVA

Jay Wright and the Wildcats lost absolutely nothing from their Sweet 16 team of a season ago.


There it is. Nine teams, more than half the conference, factor into the discussion of who the preseason favorite should be for the '08-'09 season.

This can't start soon enough.

JUST TEN?

I was asked the other night (by myself) to name the ten players I thought should make up the preseason All-Conference team. After I reeled off ten names I was pretty comfortable with, I immediately thought of three more that had to be included.

If you think this is a task you can handle, then here's a list of 25 candidates and you choose the ten players you think stand out above the others:

Luke Harangody, Notre Dame
Kyle McAlarney, Notre Dame
Earl Clark, Louisville
Terrence Williams, Louisville
Samardo Samuels, Louisville
A.J. Price, Connecticut
Hasheem Thabeet, Connecticut
Jeff Adrien, Connecticut
Jonny Flynn, Syracuse
Eric Devendorf, Syracuse
Paul Harris, Syracuse
DeJuan Blair, Pittsburgh
Sam Young, Pittsburgh
Levance Fields, Pittsburgh
Dominic James, Marquette
Jerel McNeal, Marquette
Lazar Hayward, Marquette
Eugene Harvey, Seton Hall
Scottie Reynolds, Villanova
Greg Monroe, Georgetown
DaJuan Summers, Georgetown
Deonta Vaughn, Cincinnati
Dominique Jones, South Florida
Geoff McDermott, Providence
Anthony Mason Jr, St. John's

Again, this can't start soon enough.

WHEN DOES THE BIG EAST TOURNAMENT START?

I'm still amazed that there are people against the tournament expanding to include all 16 teams, because the mere thought of three straight days of four Big East Tournament games, followed by the semifinals and finals on Friday and Saturday gets me sexually aroused. Seriously. It's not something I'm proud of, nor is it something I'm particularly comfortable talking about, but I've always prided myself on my Internet honesty.

WHAT EXACTLY IS FRED HILL UP TO?

The last thing this conference needs right now is another contender, a fact that doesn't seem to concern Rutgers head coach Fred Hill. Life hasn't been especially kind to the Scarlet Knights in the post-Quincy Douby era, and Hill is doing everything he can to change all that.

The first step was signing highly regarded freshmen guards Mike Coburn and Corey Chandler, both of whom performed admirably in their first collegiate season. Hill then upped the anti by signing the school's first McDonald's All-American in Mike Rosario, as well as the No. 13 player in the class of 2009, Greg Echenique (who will be eligible to play next season), and by bringing in Florida transfer Jonathan Mitchell.

The top tier teams in the Big East need at least two or three guaranteed wins every season, but it's looking more and more like Rutgers isn't going to be one of the squads providing that service for at least the next few years.

WHICH BIG EAST FRESHMAN WILL MAKE THE BIGGEST SPLASH?

This conversation begins with Louisville's Samardo Samuels, the USA Today National Player of the Year who will attempt to fill the void left in the middle by the departed David Padgett. While a healthy contribution from Samuels is necessary for the Cardinals to reach their ceiling in '08-'09, it might not translate into individual accolades for the big man, as he'll likely be serving mainly as an accent to established scorers like Earl Clark, Terrence Williams and Jerry Smith in his first season under Rick Pitino.

Focus next shifts to Georgetown's Greg Monroe, the player who perhaps possesses the best combination of size and skill in the class of 2008. While the transfer of Vernon Macklin has basically left Monroe as the uncontested starter in the paint, it generally takes newcomers - regardless of skill - a while to get a grasp of John Thompson III's system, and thus expecting a head-turning season from any Hoya freshman is probably foolish.

West Virginia's Devin Ebanks, Syracuse's Mookie Jones and Uconn's Kemba Walker and Ater Majok are all exceptionally gifted, but in a season like this where so many teams have so much returning, it might be best to look at a freshman joining a squad that finished in the bottom half of the standings the year before as possibly having the biggest impact on the league.

Enter Cincinnati's Yancy Gates.

The 6-8 Gates is the most versatile player to come to the Queen City since the Bearcats made the jump to the Big East. He's strong, he's athletic, he can defend, and he can shoot from the outside. Deonta Vaughn, your help has arrived.

More contenders:

Mike Rosario, Rutgers
Terrence Jennings, Louisville
Jason Clark, Georgetown
Kevin Jones, West Virginia
Kris Joseph, Syracuse
Nasir Robinson, Pittsburgh

16 OR 18?

The move to an 18-game conference schedule deserves at least partial credit for the Big East getting a record-tying eight teams into the field of 64, but there are still several coaches who see it as an unfair challenge, and that's unlikely to change heading into this season. The gripe that most fans have with it is that it doesn't honor pre-existing rivalries enough. Why should Syracuse play South Florida more than - or as many times - as it plays Connecticut, and why is Louisville getting mirror games with Rutgers but not Cincinnati?

Proponents of the scheduling system will argue that the Big East had the most exciting regular season of any conference in 2007-2008, and that it got more teams into the NCAA Tournament than it would have playing a 16-game slate. It's an argument that will almost assuredly keep the system in place for the foreseeable future.

HOW GOOD CAN PROVIDENCE BE WITH KENO?

Perhaps no offseason firing was more warranted than Tim Welsh getting the ax at Providence. Welsh guided a team that began the season with victories over A-10 champion Temple and SEC runner-up Arkansas, and which possessed more than enough talent to be an NCAA Tournament team to a 15-16 overall record and a 6-12 mark in the league.

The decision was an easy one for Friar AD Bob Driscoll, who gave Welsh his walking papers and brought in National Coach of the Year Keno Davis from Drake.

Davis inherits a team that still possesses more than enough talent to be a factor in this loaded conference. Manhattan transfer Jeff Xavier is a pure scorer, shooting guard Weyinmi Efejuku is as athletic as any player in the league, and power forward Geoff McDermott has the type of raw talent that keeps coaches awake at night. All this, and he gets scoring point guard Sharaud Curry back from injury. He also pulled off a major coup earlier this month when he added Rhode Island assistant Pat Skerry to his staff. Skerry is known as a relentless recruiter and was named as the No. 1 mid-major assistant coach in the country  in a survey conducted by Jeff Goodman.

With Davis at the helm, this is yet another squad that demands preseason attention.

HOW LONG UNTIL THE SEASON STARTS?

Too long.

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Wow

Awesome write-up, best of the off-season. don’t strain a tendon in your typing hand(s) during a “pick-up blog post”, but seriously this was great to read.

Anyway, the big east is going to be sick. UofL could be ranked in the top 5 preseason—behind two other big east teams! Now Rutgers has all these superstar frosh playing with no pressure? Huggins has an awesome recruiting class? Providence has a good coach? ZOMG!!!!

Will make football season much more palatable, that’s for sure!

by CardsFan922 on May 28, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Historic

It’s impossible to grade college basketball from era to era. Memories always seem to amplify the abilities of those of the past; perceptions blend into hyperbole for those of the present. For instance, people my age and older sometimes fall into the trap of talking about All-American Ralph Beard from my alma mater (Male High) and yes, he did play somewhere down the road for a pretty good squad. I’ve heard time and time again what a great shooter Beard was — and he was for the time. But if I’m not mistaken, he shot less than 40 percent from the field for his career at UK. His quickness and ball-handling were remarkable, especially when you consider that the hand had to be on top of the ball, the way the rules say, all the time. Guard play today is vastly different because you and get away with all but the most obvious palming, and the guards are bigger and more athletic, to the comparing of eras gets complicated.

So what’s my long-winded point? That this season’s Big East Conference basketball teams may represent the strongest conference from top to bottom in the history of college basketball. Whoa, big fellow (or little fellow as the case actually is)? What about those great ACC leagues in the late 60s and mid-nineties?

Not as many teams, I don’t think. And not as many top players. I could be waaaay off here, but Mike’s pre-season notions about the league make me think this may be the most competitive conference season ever. Anywhere. Anytime. Any conference.

theoldman

by theoldman on May 29, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

My memory banks are fading a bit

but, oldman, I think you’re on target with your comment, too

by frankpos on May 29, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top To Bottom

Hey oldman, good point about the ACC in the 60’s. Now that was a league. Go 23-2 in the regular season, get nipped at the buzzer by Wake in the first round of the tournament, and pack up your bags and go back to Chapel Hill, or Durham, or College Park. No at large picks at all. Moreover, the reason we are not the best league of all time is one that you have already suspected: We’ve got too many teams!

by Roz on May 30, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey Roz.....

you’ve been quiet and we are wondering if all is ok – good to read your comments but miss your Seinfeld-type articles…... did you watch the Cards get their collective behinds whipped in baseball last night? I hope they can rally this afternoon.

by Linda on May 31, 2008 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hi Linda

Nice portrait of you and Tom….and thanks for missing me…I wrote my gluts off on those Seinfeld scenes, one globe for each scene, and I’ve gotta tell ya, I expected somebody to at least say something, maybe that they hated them (Hey, it’s still not too late), but it was another sequoia falling in the forest with nobody around. I asked my sister (who lives out there) if I had done something wrong, or if maybe The ‘Ville didn’t get The Ed Sullivan Show until Tuesday night(!) She said that people from different parts of the country had different senses of humor. I guess my humor is an acquired taste, but nobody has “acquired” it yet. When you’re a sensitive artist like me, you can be awfully touchy (smiley emoticon would go here if I knew how to do one).

By the way, Tom’s blog is great, and keeps getting better and better. Mike better watch it!
I’ll post more as we get closer to The Season. I’ve got about 600 stations including the Tupperward Channel, The World of Silly Puddy, The Channel of Channels, and The Wiffle Ball Channel, but can’t seem to find the Cardinal nine on my cable.

Roz

by Roz on Jun 1, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just read Seinfeld Scene

Great stuff ,Roz, puuure Seinfeld. But you’re wondering why no comments. Only thing i can figure is people have little tiny attention spans these days. Text messages and all that. They can’t use their imaginations either and you’re requiring them to visualize the scene. Old radio fans like me can do that but the last couple of generations are lazy. They have to have the audio and video done FOR them.

Now let’s get to the important stuff. Wiffle Ball Channel has potential. I really like it. If I were you I would develop that one. With the crapola that’s on the other 599 stations you might have something there. See if they’ll let you buy in.

Linda and I are buying a franchise in the Fat Nuns Football League. The nuns play in full habits, tucking in that front flap and back flap so they can get down in the three point stance. This is good product for TV. (The nuns in my high school were so mean that Woody used to secretly scrimmage them every year right before the Michigan game.)

Our franchise will be the Louisville Knuckle Busters. Our fullback, Sister Mary Theresa, gained over 1400 yeard in her senior year before the running backs coach found out (or admitted) that she was a female. (He was later promoted to head Coach.) Anyway the Columbus franchise is available if you gotta few extra bucks.

what this country needs is needs cheap gas so we can bring down the cost of shipping …..DRILL ANWR!!!.

by MrBlunt on Jun 2, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Tom

Very nice post, as always. I saw Woody only once on the OSU campus…May 1970 after we were reconvened following the Kent State shootings. People were attracted to him like bees to honey and a small crowd formed quickly. He started talking about civil disobedience not being the answer to the War and it seemed his politics were right down the middle.

By the way, the very first play I saw at Ohio Stadium in 1969 went like this….80 yard pass play from Kern to Yankowski for touchdown against TCU. BUT WAIT, flags down, illegal procedure agains OSU. Very next play (honest) 85 yard touchdown from Kern to Yankowski.

We were like a pro team, even acted that way. Maybe that’s why Michigan kicked our ass in November of that year.

That’s the truth, Tom.

Have a good one.
Roz

GSTK

by Roz on Jun 4, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sister Delores of St Mary of The Snows

She was the principal. Wore the black habit, with the crucifix, and all those chains. I think she had a set of house keys to the Taj Mahal nestled somewhere in the folds of all that material and her prominent thighs. Anyway, you talk about mean, she was so mean that she had a French Poodle Named Spike (Snare drum crash goes here). Anyway, she sure could hit a softball and did during spring recess. Once she even hit one over Skippy Tyler’s Grandmother’s House on the fly then circled the bases, her crucifix, keys, whatever she had DOWN THERE jingling all the way to home plate.
Roz

by Roz on Jun 4, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with a 16-team Big East Tournament...

... if we have to have the thing at all (the Orange have done great things in the BET, but in principle I odn’t like conference tournaments). I’m not fine with the bush-league format. Would it be so tough to find an alternate venue for half of the first round games, stick an off day between the second and third round, and play a standard tournament? We’re not some two-bit league that will only send one or two teams to the NCAAs.

by drothgery on May 29, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Outstanding

Great write up. Its a nice read on a sunny Thursday night with nothing but scripted NBA basketball and early season baseball to watch.

He Hate UK

by orlandocard on May 29, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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