Kragthorpe: 'I'm here for the long haul'
From Eric Crawford's blog last night:
I asked U of L coach Steve Kragthorpe about his future at U of L, and he said, "I'm here for the long haul."
He added, "If I were going to leave, I'd have left last year."
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This man is playing for keeps
He must really want to be #1 on the coaches hot seat. Since Charlie Weis is sticking around he’ll have to as well.
by Dais on
Dec 5, 2008 9:43 AM EST
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Long haul?
With this moron “sticking around” it will be a long haul indeed. C’mon, TJ. After last nights performance, you are thoroughly justified in firing the guy. Kicking his butt out of town. I know he’s a friend, but he just embarrassed you, your university, its players and all of its fans on national friggin’ TV. Embarrassed them in a way they’ve never been embarrassed before. Sure Cooper was a terrible coach, but he didn’t play on national TV the way this blank-stare, empty-headed, cliche-ridden, mindless maggot of a coach does.
Fire him. Send him back out west. Send him to Division IA or whatever they call it. Do it not or we’ll be decades in recovering from this pompous asshole. Decades.
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by theoldman on
Dec 5, 2008 9:50 AM EST
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I'm still holding out hope...
….that he just said that after the game because he doesn’t have another job lined up. Hopefully his agent is working the crap out of the phones today.
I mean, what’s he going to say? “Ya, I’m probably going to resign but we just can’t announce it yet.” or “I will be making some choices about my future in the next few weeks.”
I mean, both of those would be awesome.
But the team I saw on the field last night looked like a team that knew their coaches were quitting.
by CardsFan922 on
Dec 5, 2008 9:58 AM EST
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The possibility of K's resignation has rested on: Rutgers, recruiting, and
reasonable financial opportunity.
Two down, the toughest one to go….
(No, according to my sources, neither U of L or TJ will not fire K and there is no buy-out in the works , so …)
by frankpos on
Dec 5, 2008 10:15 AM EST
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And another thing while I'm ranting...
“Stay the course” is a phrase always uttered by people who are staring into the face of an unmitigated disaster. War going badly? “Stay the course.” Iceberg up ahead? “Stay the course.” Football program ruined, absolutely ruined, by some self-righteous, stone-faced friend of yours who substitutes a gritty look on his face for alleged determination? “Stay the course.”
When smart people see the disaster ahead, they change the course. And in this case, the disaster isn’t looming, it’s here. It was here last year. It’s been here now for two seasons and anyone, anyone with half a mind, anyone with half a sense of dedication to the U of L program, can see it. Things under Kragthorpe are a disaster.
For the love of the university, Mr. Jurich, change the friggin’ course!
(And sorry for the typo in the first post. Rage got the better of me. It should have said, “do it or we’ll be decades recovering….”)
theoldman
by theoldman on
Dec 5, 2008 10:01 AM EST
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I assumed you had meant to say “do it now or. . .”
by Dais on
Dec 5, 2008 10:05 AM EST
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The ONLY hope I have...
in keeping him for one more year is that rebuilding (firing him and bringing in a new coach) would set us back probably two more years (or at least continue our current, amazing streak of nonbowl appearances). My hope is that we’re SOMEHOW only one more year away from turning the corner (realizing that turning the corner doesn’t mean Orange Bowl it means a decent bowl appearance) even though nothing I’ve seen would lead me to believe that’s the case. If we get rid of him now, we’re for sure going back into rebuilding. 100% chance. If we keep him one more year maybe we can avoid that assured setback. Maybe it’s only a 15% chance that he turns it around. If it doesn’t happen next year, I don’t think anyone could deny that he can’t get it done and a change needs to be made. It’s like taking that 20% chance in avoiding a 100% chance of something you want to avoid. I hate Kragthorpe and have been calling for his head as much as everyone. In this situation, I kind of hope that the administration does what I don’t want it to do (keep him one more year). In keeping with this percentage thing, this may have made 0% sense.
by jbrobe04 on
Dec 5, 2008 10:12 AM EST
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Fire Steve!!!
I never want to see Steve Kragthorpe’s face again. No other AD would accept what Kragthorpe has done to the program. The only reason Kragthorpe survives is due to his friendship with Jurich and the fact Jurich has an ego the size of Texas. I don’t think I’m going overboard by saying Jurich’s butt could be moving onto the hotseat with the fans.
by Whacker77 on
Dec 5, 2008 10:43 AM EST
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oh i've been calling for jurich's head since last year
if he won’t fire krags, jurich has to go to. sorry, but building some pretty buildings doesn’t give him the lifetime free pass with me like he’s gotten with others.
by davidson07 on
Dec 5, 2008 2:32 PM EST
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Same here...
I was roundly chastised by a fellow Card fan when I made the point that if Jurich won’t can Kragthorpe then both should go. I stand by my comment.
"There is no OFF position to the genius switch" - D. Letterman
by GrogInOhio on
Dec 5, 2008 2:42 PM EST
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Recruiting
Bottom line is no matter how good of a coach you are or claim to be you can’t coach players you don’t recruit. AssThorpe doesn’t recruit. 8 commited players for next year, nice. I am sure they are going to fill the 1,000 holes we have. Build a program on JuCo’s, sure, great idea, he must be “wide smokin open.”
Go figure one guy can deflate a fanbase so much. Even if we turn it around and post a respectable 7-5 (did I just say that?) record next year and go to a bowl game, he has soured our mouths with the taste of defeat for too long.
Too many good coaches on the market not to get one. And if we are going to “rebuild” we might as well do it under a respectable man like Ron English. At least he has some fire, and coaches during the game. As much as they showed him on TV last night you would have thought English was the coach.
by Pitino's Pal on
Dec 5, 2008 10:45 AM EST
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Is it too much to ask
for a little emotion? I mean, on the one hand, I understand that you need to give a coach time. I’ve really resisted the urge to call for Kragthorpe’s job before last night because I was holding out hope that he really knew what he was doing and was making the right choices for the “long haul.” But after that piss-poor performance last night, I"ve lost whatever faith I had.
Just watching on the sideline was depressing. At least Ron English was pissed, shaking his head, and had something to say to Schiano besides “he’s a class act.” He made a choice; if we couldn’t stop them in the secondary, then we’ll blitz every play and make them earn the pass, damn the consequences. That’s what a coach does, makes the tough choices.
Kragthorpe just did the same thing he’s done for 2 years: stare blankly and “stay the course.” I’m sorry, when you’re down by 21, 28, 35, 42, you don’t keep going with the same play calling all year where you grind out 10 minute possessions; you throw it deep, get trick plays, anything to get your team fired up. And if you fail, go back to your plan later to make it look respectable, but at least you can say you tried.
In order for me to believe anything at all is going to change next year, Kragthorpe’s going to have to do the following:
1) Get a good DC that can bring anywhere near the intensity of Ron English (he’ll be gone, guaranteed).
2) Get an actual WR coach, and not do it himself. His dual-role is obviously not working well considering all the dropped passes this season.
3) Fire Jeff Brohm and get a real OC. If I see one more toss play on 4th down with our third string halfback, I’m sending a horse head to Jeff Brohm’s house. And Tronzo needs to get the ball more than 3 times next season.
4) Show some intensity. Yell at someone, throw your headset, give the refs a hard way to go, generally make the cameramen scared to focus on your mouth for more than 3 seconds. That’s the kind of intensity we need.
5) Get more than 8 recruits for the next year. We’ve got to stop the bleeding. Make a trip to Florida for crying out loud. It worked before.
6) Go bowling.
Anything less and he needs to be gone.
by CARD_G6 on
Dec 5, 2008 12:27 PM EST
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don't hold your breath for numbers 1, 2,3,4,6
oh or number 5
by davidson07 on
Dec 5, 2008 2:34 PM EST
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The program is screwed short-term
either way. OK, we can all keep a stiff upper lip about that fact, and it is a fact. No matter what, we’re looking at mediocre seasons for at least the next couple years. And that actually makes the case even stronger for replacing this guy now. Keeping him one more year only takes the name “Louisville” farther away from the top up-and-coming prep players’ minds. It’s a truism in college ball: it takes years to build up a program, but it only takes one or two bad years to wreck it completely. Guess where we are. Fire him now or fire both of them. Period.
by CardsFanTX on
Dec 5, 2008 1:23 PM EST
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fire both of 'em
totally agreed. see my above post. if jurich won’t fire the poopkooper, then fire jurich and then fire krap.
by davidson07 on
Dec 5, 2008 2:35 PM EST
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Ugh... again
“If I were going to leave, I’d have left last year.”
And some of us sorely wish he had indeed left last year!!
"There is no OFF position to the genius switch" - D. Letterman
by GrogInOhio on
Dec 5, 2008 2:39 PM EST
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