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Today's column in the CJ by Eric Crawford is what those of us who have been in the column-writing business call a "throw-away."  You don't have a lot to say about anything in particular, so you recycle some ideas about the U of L fan base and the football program, write enough to get them to hang together until readers can get to the end of the piece.  That's where you put something trite to tie it all up — in this case one of those God-awful attempts at new lyrics to a familiar song.

What the column ignores, in fact, what every column about the abysmal season has ignored so far, is Kragthorpe's leadership role in all of this. HE is the guy responsible for the last two seasons. Not the fan base. Not Bobby Petrino, regardless of the innuendo that spews from both Jurich and Kragthorpe.  Regardless of the "lack of depth" that the coach keeps talking, or the lack of talent.

One person has responsibility for the utter destruction of the program and that's the guy Jurich hired to lead it. Crawford, as much as I appreciate him, is wrong. It's not time for a truce between fans and football leadership. No one should sign a truce when the results of that "sue for peace" moment will be one-sided. What's needed is the opposite — more noise. More discontentment. More expressions of unhappiness from the people who pay for the luxury boxes, or once did. A truce does no good at this point because it says to Jurich and Kragthorpe, okay, you won, do whatever you're going to do. That may happen anyway because Jurich says he's not going to fire his boy. But fans don't have to like it.  And they ought to make themselves heard.

We don't need anyone to tell us "shut up and take your medicine and maybe things will get better."

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hear hear!

that column was the biggest piece of garbage i’ve ever read. basically told UofL fans to be nice, don’t demand excellence from your program that only 2 years ago was near the top of the football world. and certainly don’t blame the coach, who at least is nice enough to try and fix this mess!

by davidson07 on Dec 12, 2008 10:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Deadline filler

From someone who works in the news industry, that was defintely the oh crap deadline filler (don’t worry not on the editorial side, so I can’t spell or write). I don’t need to be told how to feel about my team…I love them. I would have liked to see the column slanted towards Krag though. Tell this guy to show some fire. It is one thing to lose, it is another to lose with no emotion, and that is the core issue that irritates the fan base the most. I can tolerate a lot of things, but accepting mediocrity is not one of them and that is what it looks like he is doing on the sidelines. If he was cussing and screeming and getting in players faces during the game, at least to us the fan’s, we would know he is striving for a better tomorrow and demanding the most from his players. That feeling is just not there, and that is what is causing this disconnect from our football team and fan base.

by Pitino's Pal on Dec 12, 2008 10:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

In fact, the opposite is true

The writer got it exactly backwards. The fans are not being unreasonable… Jurich and the other powers-that-be at UofL are the irrational ones here. I think the vast majority of fans understood that Petrino leaving would set the program back a bit. A bit. But K inherited amazing talent, which he and his inept staff promptly squandered to a pathetic 6-6 record. With several future NFL picks on the roster, they lost to Syracuse… at home. The defense was as poorly managed as I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been paying attention to CFB minutiae for about 25 years. K’s answers both in that first year and all during this season have been equally pathetic and, frankly, incredibly insulting to the intelligence of the fans. He’s got the platitudes and cliches down pat. If essentially saying “stay the course” or “there were some positives to come from this loss” were tantamount to coaching expertise, this guy would be our Joe Paterno. But what those things really indicate is a second-rate football mind. It should be clear to everyone who pays attention that what happened here is simple: Jurich got burned by Petrino’s ego and prima donna act. His reaction was to find a guy who wasn’t a superstar so he (Jurich) would not have to endure a similar shot to his own ego again. Jurich looked out for #1 first, when his primary responsibility was to the University and the program. It took so long to get someone of Petrino’s ability to lead the program. Not going out and getting someone of that caliber to keep the program at the level Petrino left it was dereliction of duty – plain and simple. The fans were and are right. Jurich and Crawford are wrong. Fix it now or fire Jurich and K. That is the correct fan position, and I will not be preached to by a hack at CJ.

by CardsFanTX on Dec 12, 2008 11:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Resignation (or, Meh)

I think that’s what Crawford’s column is all about. Realizing that Kragthorpe will be here next year and likely the year after that just sucks. Getting angry obviously hasn’t worked, and the more invective people hurl at Jurich, the more likely it is he leaves too. I think that’s where Crawford is coming from.

I really can’t believe Jurich would leave over Krag, but who the heck knows. I’m resigned to Krag being here for the next 2 years and the football team we wanted to have being 5-10 years away. I’ll still go to games if I can get tickets but will not plunk down a few grand for season tickets.

But realizing that Krag is going to be here for another 2 years, especially after visions of Mullen danced in my head, is just deflating. I’m done with Anger and am now back to Meh. Sounds like Crawford is too.

Sucks. At least there’s basketball. See everyone at the Spring Game.

by CardsFan922 on Dec 12, 2008 11:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hear, hear !

(Uh-oh… I used one of those exclamation points!)… I heartily concur with the idea that fans should do the exact opposite of the STFU. I say we show Jurich, in particular, just how pissed we are.

"There is no OFF position to the genius switch" - D. Letterman

by GrogInOhio on Dec 12, 2008 11:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I guess I’m alone in thinking that booing the coach and the displeasure that has been voiced at Jurich and Kragthorpe makes them well aware that the fan base is none too pleased. Personally I think pulling ticket money and luxury box purchases hurts the overall athletic program. Yes there should be a new coach, but we don’t want to monetarily cripple our football program and handcuff the athletic department.

That type of protest never made sense to me. At least from the general fan’s perspective. Let the major boosters/donors pull money. That’s what will get Jurich’s attention. The majority of the fans need to support the football team, no matter who the coach is.

I’m sure I’m alone in that regard.

by JMC1 on Dec 12, 2008 12:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Money follows success

One of the big reasons the program has (had) money was the success it was stringing together year after year. That’s the point here. Jurich is quickly squandering the gains (monetary and otherwise) from several successful years in a row. Louisville had gone to, what, 9 or 10 bowls in a row, right? That momentum attracts top recruits, builds the fan base, and spurs big donors to invest. Keeping a failure like K around for even a couple more years will dry up the spigot and then it’ll be years more before the program has any shot at returning to the point it was when Petrino left. Right now, there’s still a chance to salvage the gains by dumping K, going hard after a top name with a proven record at the BCS level (Tulsa doesn’t play anywhere near the level of competition a BCS team plays), and correcting this aberration. If Jurich allows things to remain as they are, the damage to the program compounds and it takes that much longer to recover. We’re on the cusp, I believe, of diving off the cliff or pulling back from it and remaining on a higher plateau. The choice here is as clear as can be to us as fans.

by CardsFanTX on Dec 12, 2008 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We're on the cusp, I believe, of diving off the cliff...

My fear is we’ve long since commenced the dive and we’re about to hit the water below.

theoldman

by theoldman on Dec 12, 2008 1:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Amen I say, Amen!

Crawford spoke of the things the fans need to do and be wary of in this fight. What he did not mention were the things Tom Jurich needed to do. Tom Jurich provoked this fight when he, quickly and without a real search, hired his friend. The fans are just responding to the mess as a concerned fanbase would.

I have debated giving up my seats, but I have decided not to do so. I enjoy the experience even if I hate the coach and his product. More than likely, I will boycott many of the games next year and leave my seat empty. I know Jurich will still get my money, but an empty seat in an expended stadium will still hurt.

The only ones who sue for peace are the losers. The fans are not losing this fight. We have forced Jurich to deal with the issue. His response has shown his true style. He is a thinn skinned egomaniac.

by Whacker77 on Dec 12, 2008 1:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Should Krags Stay or Should He Go? at straitpinkie.com

At straitpinkie.com we give you both sides of the story. A pro-Kragthorpe argument and an anti-Kragthorpe argument. Click on the link below to read both sides.

www.straitpinkie.com

by catsfanyo on Dec 12, 2008 2:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why

would a cat fan care? Youre getting your wish.

by twistedwedge on Dec 12, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CJ is crap.. why waste time

First and foremost..CJ is total crap.. ill never read a sports article from the Cj after the derrick character issue.. they call Rick a pushover for taking DC back after a one game suspension.. (padgett was hurt) but not a peep after pitino had no comment for suspending clark for the Ky game.. are you serious? Rick has tossed more kids from this program than any 3 or 4 programs (hurt, wilkinson, bender, daniels, northern, millard, wade, character, and many more).. Pitino can do what he wants because hes a winner.. Krag win and all the critics go away.. but your not so we will only be more disappointed in your next 2 seasons.. ill be in section 221 with 7 other people.. Does anyone think Krag will really be coach in 11?? two more years is enough

by yngCrd82 on Dec 12, 2008 5:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Two more years?

The first two years were enough. Two more years is a punishment worse than death.

by Whacker77 on Dec 12, 2008 11:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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