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Tom Jurich speaks

Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich broke an extended silence regarding the state of the football program when he spoke with ESPN's Brian Bennett for a story posted on Bennett's blog yesterday afternoon. 

About U of L's current lackluster season, Jurich had this to say:

"My expectations were not high this year because I knew the reality," Jurich said on Wednesday. "One thing I didn't want to do to the fans was lie to them.

"When I said we'd spend the next two years rebuilding, there was a lot of flack that came with it. Nobody wants to hear that. [But] it's a long haul and I knew that and I buckled up for it.

"It's hard for some people to hear that when one year you're going to the Orange Bowl and now you're not. Our fans are so new at this, they thought we'd be going to the Orange Bowl every week, but it's not like that."

Not being in the Orange Bowl one year after being in the Orange Bowl was something I think we all could handle. Not being in any bowl one year after being in the Orange Bowl and for the first time in ten years is another story.

Jurich then takes responsibility for the last two seasons off of Steve Kragthorpe, and places it on the slimy shoulders of Bobby Petrino.

"An injury devastates this team," Jurich said. "A lot of times we don't have the next guy to go in, so we just have to shuffle guys around.

"It's not Steve's fault. He was left shorthanded; there's just no way around it. There's a reason Bobby left. It wasn't like we ran him out of here."

There was a reason Bobby left: because he was offered a boatload of money to be the head coach of an NFL franchise. He didn't leave because he was hoping to avoid having to coach a team that returned the vast majority of starters - including a Heisman front-runner at quarterback - from a squad that was 12-1 and four points away from playing for the national championship. 

Now I'd take a bat to the groin for Tom Jurich, but after taking that shot and spending several weeks in the hospital, I'd still tell him that not attributing any of the blame for a pair of piss poor seasons to the head coach is ridiculous. Even if every player on last year's team was staying out until 5 a.m. on game nights and dropping acid five seconds before kickoff, there's still no excuse for not guiding that squad to at least eight victories.

I understand and respect standing with your guy, but I do think there's a limit, and giving him a free pass on any and all things that have gone wrong over the past 22 months exceeds that limit.

You're still awesome.

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I guess Petrino caused all the stupid penalties like too many men on the field, substitution penalties, procedural penalties, etc. He must be pulling the strings from Fayetteville.

by JMC1 on Nov 13, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He’s calling all those short slants on 3rd and long too.

by DHGoCards! on Nov 13, 2008 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is unfortunately where Tom is losing some of his vast credibility

with the fan base. And his short fuse may pop soon again if we lose out.

I still hear the big donors mouthing the party line right now

but they sound increasingly nervous.

One of the biggest donors became very agitated the other night when we were discussing the combo of current bad recruiting AND the possiblity of losing out…

by frankpos on Nov 13, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He seems like he’s too close to the situation. This is why you NEVER hire personal friends to public office. His hire of Kragthorpe was borne of good intentions, he wanted a guy he could trust at the helm, a consistent face for football. Unfortunately, the face we’ve been seeing for the last 2 years, both with and without goatee, is the pouty one. He has a total conflict of interest right now, and my greatest worry is not the future of the football program, it is whether or not obsession with the future of the football program will cost us the greatest A.D. in the country.

by bartenpa on Nov 13, 2008 6:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interestingly, that obsession may be the one thing that keeps Jurich here

this is his baby, and he want to see it be great again—that drives him.

It drives him more than with any personal friendship with K.

Unfortunately, like any successful man, TJ rightly has an ego, and he subbornly doesn’t want to be proven wrong on this hire— particularly right after Bobby, because he really, REALLY didn’t like Petrino.

That may make him more subborn on K than his personal relationship with him—which I understand is not that close.

by frankpos on Nov 13, 2008 6:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey tubby...

Our fans are so new at this, they thought we’d be going to the Orange Bowl every week, but it’s not like that.

Don’t talk down to the people who keep you in mock turtlenecks and blazers. Capice?

by flubby on Nov 13, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is why Mike can't be the C-J blogger

It is also why we read this site before the C-J. This is the voice of everyfan.

by Dais on Nov 13, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

exactly

here, mike has the freedom so say what he thinks about whomever he chooses. If he worked for someone else, he would be censored, not only in his message, but also his words. No more F-bombs during syracuse games.

by Ben Go CARDS on Nov 13, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i hate that man when he talks about the poopkooper

i hate the way he treats us like we’re simpletons who don’t understand a thing about the sport and have child-like expectations. the facts remain:

last season, jurich hired the poopkooper and stoked the expectations of the fans by introducing the poopkooper as the coach to take us the national championship.

when the poopkooper showed his true colors and started his glorious winless streak against UK, Uconn and Cuse, Jurich 180-ed: “this is all the fans’ fault!” he said. “If they didn’t have unrealistic expectations, they wouldn’t be so unhappy. besides, most of the discipline issues are the previous coach’s fault, even though there was only one arrest during his entire tenure with the university. he’s also to blame for the lack of talent on the field! once my buddy Steve has had time to work his system, we’ll have real talent on the field, and not these NFL draft picks.”

im tired of jurich belittling and blaming us for the poopkooper’s horrendous coaching job, and we shouldn’t stand for it. I say Jurich fire’s the poopkooper, or we fire ’em both.

by davidson07 on Nov 13, 2008 2:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I often told people on the street

that I would be willing to take a 22 oz aluminum bat to the groin for ol’ TJ if the situation called for it. Which it hasn’t. Yet. But that bat has over the past two years has been whittled down to a commemorative pen shaped like a bat.

by Blocky on Nov 13, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I want my yearly Orange Bowl trip?

I’ve been a UofL football fan since they were giving away tickets at the local convenience stores. To tell me and fans like me that we expect too much? PUH-lease!!!

I expect, at this point in time, to be somewhat competitive in the Big East. I expect to beat teams we are supposed to beat (Syracuse…at the very least). I expect this team to be able to handle themselves better in road games(no more down to the final minute squeakers against teams like Memphis and no more getting run out of the stadium by teams like Pittsburgh who we’ve totally owned this past decade).

No better way to temper fans expectations by claiming you are competing for a National Championship in Year One of the Coach (?) K era. Turn around after the fact and claim you were trying to tell us all along we were never close.

I’m a UofL football fan, I can handle the truth, even better than I can handle disappointment. I’m a fan and always will be. Setbacks are setbacks and these are just young men who want to play football. My life doesn’t revolve around whether this team wins or loses. I don’t like working hard all week and wanting to watch, at the very least, a competitive football game from the local team and end up turning to an SEC game half way through the second quarter because I can’t take any more.

I spent the 70’s and 80’s dating the rather homely cashier at Big Lots. I spent the a good part of the 90’s being winked at by supermodels. I’ve spent the first part of this decade dating Kate Beckinsale and now I’m wondering where the models are and if the cashier at Big Lots still has the same phone number.

by ddh1969 on Nov 13, 2008 3:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jurich and Kargathorpe

>>Not being in any bowl one year after being in the Orange Bowl and for the first time in ten years is another story.<<

Jurich should be endangering his own job with such lunacy. Jurich and Kargathorpe have BOTH let down the university, the community, the fans and the players. I’m fed up with both.

Failing to make a bowl, ANY bowl, for the second year in a row should be enough to get both replaced.

Grog

"There is no OFF position to the genius switch" - D. Letterman

by GrogInOhio on Nov 13, 2008 4:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Strongly disagree

First, Jurich is the Athletic Director, which include other sports. To base his job on the success of one program (which has until only recently been a rather average at best program) is insane. Look at all the other sports and the hires he has made. Basketball, both men’s and womens, track, cross country, field hockey, soccer, baseball, etc. These programs have grown under Jurich’s watch. Even football reached its zenith under Jurich. And lets not forget Jurich was instrumental in getting us in the Big East and out of Conference USA. To say Jurich should get replaced after 2 sub-par years of football is insane and wrong. Don’t overract too much and dont loose your rationality.

by Ben Go CARDS on Nov 13, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree with the disagreement

It’s not the 2 years of mediocrity that make me feel Jurich should be on thin ice. It’s the head-in-the-sand approach to fixing it! His comments about fan expectations and regarding what/why Petrino left is pure hogwash having NOTHING to do with the issues at hand. Pure excuses that don’t address a failing coaching staff.

Grog

"There is no OFF position to the genius switch" - D. Letterman

by GrogInOhio on Nov 13, 2008 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep it in perspective dude

He’s still going to say what he’s got to say to the public. He’s not going to sit there and say ‘Yeah Kragthorpe sucks, I’m firing him." No AD in the country does that. Every other sport has improved amazingly under his watch, and I’m pretty sure football hit a lofty height as well. There’s no reason to think we won’t get back there with TJ at the helm.
When basketball went to the NIT the year after the final four, did you want Jurich Fired? He wasn’t throwing Pitino under the bus so you must have.

At this point I’d like to see Kragthorpe gone as the next UL fan, but my gut feeling is that he will give Krag at least three years, and quite possibly 4 so he can fire him “the right way”.

We could be 1-11 and Jurich will still be the best AD in the country. That’s not the kind of person you run off.

by dlpfis79 on Nov 14, 2008 10:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

You hit the nail on the head, you may well be the only person that agrees with me on this. LOL

by The White Mandingo on Nov 14, 2008 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not much to add...

….that hasn’t been said here or in the numerous ITV threads about this.

Just frustrating as a fan to have Jurich do a straw-man debate and say that all UofL fans who are upset with Krag think we should go to the Orange Bowl every week.

Supporting the Koach is one thing. Attacking the out-going coach is understandable even if not classy. Blasting the fans to PRAVDESPN is just inappropriate.

by CardsFan922 on Nov 13, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

TJ

is about to bounce on us…

i’d hate to see it… but that is what i believe

Clifford

by JimmyClifford on Nov 13, 2008 6:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree....

this moron Koach might very well cost us our great AD. I’m devestated by the whole mess….

by Linda on Nov 13, 2008 7:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

TJ has to stay

If there’s one thing positive about the Krag situation, it’s that there’s no way Jurich is going to bail on the football program in its current state. So as Krags keeps struggling, and as Jurich keeps backing him, our other sports will continue to flourish.

by centrecard on Nov 13, 2008 7:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Remember...

Coach K has never lost FEWER than five games as a head coach of an alleged major football program. That’s the best he’s ever done.

The situation with TJ is tenuous, seems to me. As noted above, all successful people have egos and on occasion those egos get in the way. Jurich let personal feelings get in the way when it comes to this hire; now he’s erected a straw man by blaming the fans. No one likes to come face-to-face with their own failure. That’s why I think our athletic director will be moving on — and I hope to heck I’m wrong. We all know who needs to go, and it isn’t Jurich.

theoldman

by theoldman on Nov 13, 2008 7:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well when Koach was hired the statement was,

that he (TJ) wanted to find a man who looked at Louisville as a destination. He got exactly what he wanted. Problem was, the fans looked at the program in the state of its recent history.

Looks like Koach saw it as a destination for the program after Howard left….

The thing is this. ALL we heard the Spring after Koach arrived was positives about our team and how excited he was to compete for a national championship. Those quotes are out there. If he is the second coming then how the hell could he not have seen what the state of the team was and started setting expectations PRIOR to the start of season 1.

Putting this on Petrino is total BS. One of the things Petrino was surprised about was that Paul was not considered a candidate to replace him. He said on SEVERAL occasions that Paul was interested in it. Petrino still has a presence here, he worked at the school on two occasions. The fan base was hugely disappointed in Petrino after he left for sure, but hardly surprised.

As read the blog, I could not help but think that TJ was doing what he always has done. Protect his coaches. He did it for Petrino (at least during the Auburn episode) and other coaches there. The man is a good leader, but, good leaders can also be wrong. On another post I brought my thoughts about Koach up and another poster said something that I truly agree with. Koach is going to be here another year minimum.

by Fitzi on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm finished taking the bait.

“Coach K must be allowed time to work his system with his players.”
What a joke. We hear the generic line from experts, analysts, and blindly loyal athletic directors too often. Coach K’s brand of football is a joke. It is an uninspired, predictable, creatively drained joke. Jurich shouldn’t be frustrated with the fans for having high expectations; he should be upset with his hire that has become the ultimate setback in momentum to a program in which he has already invested so much. Jurich: you have taught this fan base how to get excited about successful programs; don’t condemn us for calling it like we see it. Thank him for his service, let Kragthorpe go, promote English while you still have the chance, and let’s get this train back on track.

Thank god for basketball season!

by Zakem2002 on Nov 14, 2008 4:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hate to say it

Yeah it sucks but TJ has at least come out and said in no way is Krag leaving this year or next. He is going to let Krag build up the team and have his recruits reach maturity in the program. I knew it was going to be this way when he hired him I am just shocked so many other people are crying for blood after just 2 seasons. Sure I am just as upset about the losses to KY, UCONN, and SU but Krag still deserves a chance to rebuild. Schnellenberger left for OU, Pooper stunk it up but was given 3 years, John L. Smith left for Michigan St., Booby P. left for the NFL. Maybe we as Louisville fans feel victimized from all the previous coaches so this is the fan bases way of saying screw you. I don’t know, but what coach in their right mind would want to even come to Louisville if this is how the fan base treats their coach through adversity. I am not saying we should not criticize him for losses or calls, but should we be calling for his head on a platter after only 2 years. My answer is no. I will probably catch flak for this but this is my opinion.

by The White Mandingo on Nov 14, 2008 7:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Louisville had the money

to buy a top tier coach, but they did what 2nd tier programs did and hired an unproven nobody. Jurich should stay as AD for the job he’s done overall with Louisville sports, but a real man admits a mistake and rectifies it. Boot K at the end of this season and put all the resources available into landing a proven coach who has won at the big-time level and taken teams to bowl games consistently. If Jurich and K are really that close, the latter will understand it’s a business decision and take his medicine like a man. K was clearly not ready for primetime. Hasn’t he proven that in spades over the last 2 seasons? Enough already.

by CardsFanTX on Nov 14, 2008 12:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't blame TJ

“One thing I didn’t want to do to the fans was lie to them.”

I think that is a stand up quote. I’m glad to see that TJ is not going to lie to us about what is really going on in the program. He might not come right out and say we are very sub-par, but he also won’t tell us the world is great when in reality it’s falling apart.

TJ is a great AD that had done lots for our programs. I have full confidence that he sees something else that maybe we are blind to right now. If not I’ll at least keep telling myself that so i can keep the motivation to go to games in 50* monsoon weather (i.e. tonight’s game).

-Dustin

by Civicman86 on Nov 14, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the spring of hope and the winter of despair

As I see it, there are two extremes here. The “John L. Kragcooper” side says that the situation of the football program is so bad that someone needs to pay. Kragthorpe should be held responsible for the decline of the football program and Jurich for his hire of Kragthorpe. For responsible, read lose their jobs. The “Louisville Fans are Dumb” side believes that this is a natural cycle in the ups and downs of college football and that the fans are ridiculous for expecting consistent, winning football and BCS bowls.

There is an element of truth to both sides, I think. Kragthorpe may indeed be the worst football coach in Louisville since Cooper. Heck, he may not be fit to coach the powder puffs at Sacred Heart, but it would be a colossal mistake to fire him after two years. If UofL wants a top tier coach, they will not get one by being quick to the eject button. Jurich knows this and takes the high road by protecting him. Kragthorpe should (and will) get at least three years, and TJ should be welcomed and embraced at UofL as long as he will stay.

Nevertheless, it is preposterous to suggest that the fans should not expect a good football team. To chasten the fans for their anger at sub-par football (the extent of which has been well-documented here) is preposterous. There is such a thing as righteous anger and only the truest patriots care enough to express it. Healthy (non-violent) fan passion should never be denounced.

Ultimately, our discussions here won’t matter, but the decline in ticket sales will. When the stadium expansion is postponed (mark my words!) due our team’s stock market plunge, changes will be made.

If I’m wrong, I’ll be the first to celebrate it, but seriously, does anyone see our seven recruits turning this around? In the meantime, I will support every player and every play, with the hope that a new camelot will be in the making one or two years hence. Remember, we’ll never have to rebuild the way Schnelly or John L. or Petrino had to. A BCS bid is only a weak conference championship away!

by cardkevin on Nov 14, 2008 3:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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