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Louisville/Marquette: Atypical Rivals

In an age where rivalry has become synonymous with in-state bragging rights, rich multi-sport history, or just pure, unadulterated hate, Louisville/Marquette doesn't seem to make much sense.

The universities - one a Jesuit school in the Midwest and the other a Southern state school - are separated by 400 miles. They began playing each other in 1951, but both have multiple series with other programs that date back even further. Each program already has an established in-state rival (Kentucky and Wisconsin), and a secondary conference rival (Cincinnati and Notre Dame).

So why are we talking about this? Why is Thursday's game anything other than a big conference matchup between two talented teams? Why does each program consider the other a rival?

Quite simply, they don't really have a choice.

Louisville/Marquette isn't a rivalry built out of necessity, but rather unavoidability. When two high-profile programs from the same conference play memorable game after memorable game for a prolonged period of time it automatically becomes something much more than it was before, whether the parties involved like it or not.

This has quickly become one of those situations.

Louisville and Marquette are two of just 37 programs to taste the sweet joy of a Division I college basketball national championship. Al McGuire took MU to the promised land in 1977, while Denny Crum made U of L the "Team of the '80s," and captured national titles in both 1980 and 1986. The two have maintained their relevance since then by advancing to a Final Four in the last five years, making the move together to perhaps the most prominent college basketball conference in the country, and by producing successful NBA talent.

And then there are the games, the undeniable backbone of the rivalry. A Cardinal or Golden Eagle fan can describe nearly every recent contest the two have played with a single name: Deane, Wardle, Myles, Hutchins, Gaines, Garcia, Smith. It's a testament to just how competitive the two programs have been in the last 12 years or so.

Because the rivalry's foundation was built with competitive games and not cultural differences or bad blood, it's interesting to see how that affects the fans of the programs. Some - like C-J fan blogger Tom Heiser - will use the word "hate" when describing their feelings toward Marquette just as quickly as they would if asked about Kentucky or Cincinnati or Memphis. Others - like myself - view the Golden Eagles as merely a successful fellow-Big East program that we've had our fair share of dramatic history with.

I'm not implying that Marquette is just another game, I'm just saying that when the Golden Eagles knock off the Cardinals I don't feel near the mixture of negative emotions towards the victors (sans Crean) as I do when the Cats claim the Battle for the Bluegrass, or as I did when the mid-'90s Huggins-led Bearcats would come into the Hall and roll. I don't have a family member who pulls for Marquette, I don't openly root against the Golden Eagles when they're playing someone else, and I don't harbor any particular feelings of resentment towards their fans, or - with the extreme exception of Travis Diener - their players.

It's a different sort of rivalry, for me at least, and one that I enjoy. At least until Wesley Matthews drills a 30-footer at the buzzer tomorrow night.

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Sibling rivalry?
UK is like our brother, we see, live with them, compete with them in everything everyday.  We live in the same house (state) as them and can not avoid them anywhere.

Cincy is like the kid that lives up the street.  We play in the neighbors' yard, we go to school with him.  He may even play on our little league team.  We can try to avoid him if we want, but no matter what he's always Lurking around the corner.

Marquette on the other hand, is like that shit-eatin' cousin that lives out of town and thinks he's better than you.  We never really hang out, but your mom always tells you how great they are and all the "cool" stuff he is doing.  In reality you could care less, except that you know he's full of shit and that if he had to compete with you day-in-and-day-out you would expose his for the fraud that he really is.  

by drhustle on Jan 16, 2008 3:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm kinda with ya
but "cool" and "better than you"

have never been thoughts that spring to mind when I think Marquette

by frankpos on Jan 16, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting prose Mike.
This posts starts out like it's being written for newspaper column, then about a third of the way through it bumps back into being a Blog.  
I wouldn't call this rivalry; it's just too hard to have a "rivalry" with school that you only play in basketball. Just my two cents.

by Blocky on Jan 16, 2008 3:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rivalry
Grew up a Louisville fan and attended Xavier.  Believe me, you don't have to play a team in both football and basketball for it to be a fierce rivalry.  The games against UC and Dayton were just about as intense as the UL/UK game.  (Xavier does not have a football team)

by golfitup on Jan 16, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

karma
if wesley matthews beats us on a buzzer beater tommorow, i will never attend this website again.

by dan on Jan 16, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's a shame Dan
Because attendance each day is mandatory, and if you skip more than three times your grade automatically drops an entire letter grade.

by Mike Rutherford on Jan 17, 2008 8:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's true
Mike even gave me detention once. During it I was forced to watch all of Denny Crums' interviews the last season he was the coach, followed by a Jock Sutherland narrated basketball game.  

by Blocky on Jan 17, 2008 9:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you watch your mouth
Don't talk about Jock that way

by Web on Jan 17, 2008 10:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing Dan...
doesn't take anything seriously. Weaver topped him in bowling last night without breaking 100.

p.s. There may have been a Spalding 'sighting'

by Schmuck on Jan 17, 2008 9:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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